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Harlas Ravelkione · 02-09-06, 10:17 PM

There are some simple facts that you are missing.

1. When the quest started there were not more than 10 people (max) from the original group. Also look on the calendar and check how many actually signed up for the event. Then compare that with the rule that I myself stated in the quest description about other people joining. This rule was also in the description for the previous session.

2. The contract binds the group together to a common cause. But does it also prevent the group from receiving help by other characters?

3. Suddenly 3 new people joined the party. You were not aware of these people coming... people you had seen before. But you were also not aware of the NPCs at the party before you got into it. If you tried to view and act on the situation in-character what is the problem? There are new people there, whether you like it or not. You have 3 options. The first is to engage them in your problem and they might offer to help you. The second is to discuss with them after the party what they are doing here, and make the judgement to not accepting their help. The third option is to sit back and watch them, and more or less hit the passive button for the remainder of the quest.
I thought that bringing a little surprise into the quest might spice things up a little further. Anyway, I am not going to take such decisions for my players. If they decide on the second option they will have to make the confrontation with the new people and tell them their aid is not welcome. Actually this could have made things very interesting, if you ask me.

On the matter of high-lvl people taking over I am going to steal a remark made by another:
- On the "follow the epics" thing...OK, I've been on both sides of this (well, not quite, but close enough). And I remember as a lower-level character being in awe of the higher-ups and tending to follow rather than lead, speak up or be something other than just one of the group. So it does happen, however it happens in no small part due to the lower-level characters (and "younger" players) allowing it to happen...meaning they either willingly or subconsciously allow themselves to be led by the epics and higher levels. I wonder if the same players had shown up with mid-level characters if something similar would have occurred simply by meta-gamed virtue of the fact that the players had been there a long time?

And should we start excluding people from quests just because they're epic and the rest of the group is not? Barring a level cap, there's no reason why high-level/epic and mid/low-level characters cannot mix on the same quest. I can think of several successful examples where that has occurred.

02-09-06, 10:17 PM	#7
Harlas Ravelkione Gamemaster Characters Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,114 Thanks: 197 Thanked 388 Times in 224 Posts	Re: The Hunt - General confusion. There are some simple facts that you are missing. 1. When the quest started there were not more than 10 people (max) from the original group. Also look on the calendar and check how many actually signed up for the event. Then compare that with the rule that I myself stated in the quest description about other people joining. This rule was also in the description for the previous session. 2. The contract binds the group together to a common cause. But does it also prevent the group from receiving help by other characters? 3. Suddenly 3 new people joined the party. You were not aware of these people coming... people you had seen before. But you were also not aware of the NPCs at the party before you got into it. If you tried to view and act on the situation in-character what is the problem? There are new people there, whether you like it or not. You have 3 options. The first is to engage them in your problem and they might offer to help you. The second is to discuss with them after the party what they are doing here, and make the judgement to not accepting their help. The third option is to sit back and watch them, and more or less hit the passive button for the remainder of the quest. I thought that bringing a little surprise into the quest might spice things up a little further. Anyway, I am not going to take such decisions for my players. If they decide on the second option they will have to make the confrontation with the new people and tell them their aid is not welcome. Actually this could have made things very interesting, if you ask me. On the matter of high-lvl people taking over I am going to steal a remark made by another: - On the "follow the epics" thing...OK, I've been on both sides of this (well, not quite, but close enough). And I remember as a lower-level character being in awe of the higher-ups and tending to follow rather than lead, speak up or be something other than just one of the group. So it does happen, however it happens in no small part due to the lower-level characters (and "younger" players) allowing it to happen...meaning they either willingly or subconsciously allow themselves to be led by the epics and higher levels. I wonder if the same players had shown up with mid-level characters if something similar would have occurred simply by meta-gamed virtue of the fact that the players had been there a long time? And should we start excluding people from quests just because they're epic and the rest of the group is not? Barring a level cap, there's no reason why high-level/epic and mid/low-level characters cannot mix on the same quest. I can think of several successful examples where that has occurred.