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Old 03-23-07, 07:12 AM #1
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Question Character Build Calculator

In my copious free time (snort!), I'm taking it upon myself to try to customize Kamiryn's Character Build Calculator (CBC) from the NW Vault for Layonara. Once it's stable, I'll submit it for inclusion in the downloads section.

So far, so good, though I'm running into a technical problem or two. (The biggies right now are figuring out how to add spellcasting levels to divine PrCs and how to deal with subraces.) However, those are my problems.

In order to make sure I have the right info in the spreadsheet, I do have a few questions I hope the team can answer:
  1. The LORE requirements for Eschew Materials II do not include Eschew Materials I (and likewise III doesn't require II) -- is this correct?
  2. Should Eschew Materials I/II/III be available as epic bonus feats for non-Wizards? (Wizards should have it as a bonus feat already, right?)
  3. Are the only Layo-specific feats (other than PrC features) Eschew Materials I/II/III and Soul Mother's Defense?
  4. Is Gather Information a class skill for all classes? If not, which ones have it as a class skill?
  5. The following PrCs are 10-level PrCs but LORE does not show any epic levels: Bear Warrior, Sacred Fist, Spellsword, Undead Slayer. Do they have epic levels, and if so what are the bonus feat progressions and lists?
  6. What feats should be selectable for the Spellsword's bonus feat at level 6?
  7. Do the Spellsword's additional spells per day allow for casting of higher level spells than (s)he could previously; that is, if I go Wizard 5/Fighter 5, and then add 10 levels of Spellsword, do I cast 5th level spells (with spells per day as a 10th level Wizard) or only 3rd level spells?
  8. Is Weapon Focus(Creature) only available for Sacred Fist, or do Druids and Shifters have the option of taking it?

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Old 03-23-07, 07:36 AM #2
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Default Re: Character Build Calculator

I can help you with a few of the anwers.
  1. The LORE requirements for Eschew Materials II do not include Eschew Materials I (and likewise III doesn't require II) -- is this correct?
No this is not correct. You can not choose the next level of Eschew unless you have the previous one. Etc. You would need eschew I, and the abillity to cast 6th circle spells to choose Eschew II
  1. Should Eschew Materials I/II/III be available as epic bonus feats for non-Wizards? (Wizards should have it as a bonus feat already, right?)
I can verify that Eschew is indeed available for Epic Level wizards, as for non-wizards I cannot.
  1. Are the only Layo-specific feats (other than PrC features) Eschew Materials I/II/III and Soul Mother's Defense?
Yes Daylight adaption comes to mind, Scent, weapon Profiency Sea Elf. Besides there are some feats that have been altered to suit Layonara standard. Devestating critical have had its str requirement raised to 29. And Time stop is now a feat taken as a epicspell now. Thats the ones I can remember
  1. Is Gather Information a class skill for all classes? If not, which ones have it as a class skill?
Anyone can buy into this skill for one point per skillpoint.
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Faldred,

Most of this information is available in the "control" HAK for v3, specifically within the massive collection of 2da files.

Is this some kind of external tool or is it something that happens within a module?
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Old 03-23-07, 07:57 AM #4
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Faldred,

Most of this information is available in the "control" HAK for v3, specifically within the massive collection of 2da files.

Is this some kind of external tool or is it something that happens within a module?
The CBC is an Excel spreadsheet that let's you plan out a character's progress, try different class combos, etc. It's got a ton of formulas and other checks built in to let you know if your choices are valid. It also produces nifty output. Here's an example:

Fighter(5), Abjurer(5), Spellsword(10), Elf

STR: 15 (20)
DEX: 16
CON: 10
WIS: 10
INT: 16
CHA: 8

Hitpoints: 150
Skillpoints: 115
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 12/12/8
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +5, Mind Effects: +2
BAB: 14
AB (max, naked): 19 (melee), 17 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 15/24
Spell Casting: Wizard(5)
Alignment Changes: 0

Elf: (Hardiness vs. Enchantments, Keen Sense, Low-light Vision, Skill Affinity: Listen, Skill Affinity: Search, Skill Affinity: Spot, Sleeplessness)
01: Abjurer(1): Combat Casting, {Scribe Scroll}
02: Fighter(1): Power Attack
03: Abjurer(2): Extend Spell
04: Fighter(2): STR+1, Cleave, (STR=16)
05: Abjurer(3)
06: Fighter(3): Empower Spell
07: Abjurer(4)
08: Fighter(4): STR+1, Great Cleave, (STR=17)
09: Abjurer(5): Maximize Spell, Eschew Materials I
10: Fighter(5)
11: Spellsword(1): {Imbue I}
12: Spellsword(2): STR+1, Spell Penetration, {Ignore Spell Failure 10%}, (STR=18)
13: Spellsword(3): {Ignore Spell Failure 15%}
14: Spellsword(4): {Imbue II}
15: Spellsword(5): Greater Spell Penetration, {Ignore Spell Failure 20%}
16: Spellsword(6): STR+1, FEAT, (STR=19)
17: Spellsword(7): {Ignore Spell Failure 25%}
18: Spellsword(8): Quicken Spell, {Ignore Spell Failure30%}
19: Spellsword(9)
20: Spellsword(10): STR+1, {Imbue III}, (STR=20)

Concentration 23(23), Discipline 10(15), Lore 23(26), Spellcraft 23(26), Tumble 10(13), Gather Information 16(19)
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Old 10-30-08, 10:58 AM #5
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Hey there faldred, is this little thing working?
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Old 10-30-08, 12:07 PM #6
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Sweet little tool, but I still find it easier to do it manually... Then again, that's from someone with that very tool already installed in his brain.

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Well right now I`m wondering if this little gadget is automatic. And if yes, where can i get it since the thumbnail is only an image with no rule or macros for the excel spreadsheet.
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Old 10-30-08, 08:05 PM #8
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It is about 12 megs so I can't post it here. But if you want me to send the version I have, send me a PM. However, as Faldred has explained, it has been out of date for quite some time. Thanks Faldred for taking this on.

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Old 10-31-08, 07:59 AM #9
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Savefile.com is a good place to host files of this size -- as long as there's activity. If the file isn't accessed for a while, they remove it.

All that aside, I haven't been working on this for some time. In fact, ironically, I removed my local copy of the file just in the last week doing a cleanup of old (unused) files.
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