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03-27-07, 07:49 PM
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#1 | | Character Approver Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Texas Tech University Architecture Building
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|  Divine Relation
I remember a post about this a LONG while back, but I cannot recall the standing that was taken by the GM's regarding this "spell." I seem to recall that it was actually an action taken by the divinely touched while they were praying in which they would ask for guidance and thus receive it in the form of the relation your deity has to the character you cast it on, but due to the limits of NWN it was made a spell for it to even work.
Am I right on this or is there more to it then that?
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03-27-07, 08:09 PM
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#2 | | Ancient Dragon Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Look at me still talking when there's Science to do...
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| Re: Divine Relation
That's right. There's no way for anyone around to tell that you're "casting" it.
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03-27-07, 11:28 PM
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#3 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Re: Divine Relation
Which if it is used for it's intended purpose, it shouldn't be a problem at all.
If people start abusing it, let them know. I've seen it be a RP killer before. | | | | |
03-27-07, 11:45 PM
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#4 | | Gamemaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wellington, New Zealand
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| Re: Divine Relation
http://www.layonara.com/general-disc...seicantrp.html
this is what you are looking for. consensus was that no would know....but that the caster would NOT know the actual diety but rather would only know if they were friendly and such. | | | | |
03-28-07, 12:43 AM
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#5 | | Beholder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Olympia, WA
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| Re: Divine Relation
I can think of one good RP uses for this spell. As it has been stated, the only thing that this spell does is tell the cleric what the target's deity is in relation to the cleric's deity.
The best usage of this spell, is if your cleric is contemplating the use of a resurrection spell. You can cast Divine Relation on a dead PCs body, and find out if the dead character worships an enemy of your god.
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03-28-07, 01:41 AM
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#6 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orlando, FL
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| Re: Divine Relation
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Originally Posted by Tanman  | Why did you have to dig that back up? lol
I was having some horrible rp with that spell from people and it being abused when I made that thread. =P | | | | |
03-28-07, 08:03 AM
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#7 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004
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Yea, seeing that again made me laugh, man. Good bad-times. | | | | |
03-28-07, 09:53 AM
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#8 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orlando, FL
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| Re: Divine Relation
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Originally Posted by Eight-Bit Yea, seeing that again made me laugh, man. Good bad-times. | Yeah it is funny now =). Then it was frustrating. I had never seen the spell or used it back then. On at least 3 instances, people came up to me back then and cast that spell then went right into "Ca'duzite....". They were also doing it to my friend, who was a level 4 Corathite at the time.
I asked them how they knew, because we were actually trying to hide what we were, and they said Divine Relation. When in truth looking back now, it was because the Server Status said so, and the spell Divine Relation was being miss used by them.
*shurgs* Still funny reading that post again. My attempt at sarcasim backed by frustration brought out the fire works for some folks. =) | | | | |
03-28-07, 11:02 AM
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#9 | | Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: In Interia's Closet
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Yeah agree Drizzy. Lucky my deity has 2 allied, and 3 friendly and 5 neutral dieties, so its a bit easier to narrow it down. "Hmm, yer either ah brandy or Ca'duzy" | | | | |
03-28-07, 11:08 AM
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#10 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Staffordshire, England
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| Re: Divine Relation
Hawk is mysterious about his deity?...
Am I missing something here?
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03-28-07, 11:55 AM
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#11 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Re: Divine Relation
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Originally Posted by Witch Hunter Hawk is mysterious about his deity?...
Am I missing something here? | He has a diety with few friends. It's easy to know who is what with Divine Relation when cast by Hawk. | | | | |
03-28-07, 12:12 PM
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#12 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Staffordshire, England
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| Re: Divine Relation
Ohh that, got it.
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03-28-07, 01:01 PM
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#13 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Dec 2006
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| Re: Divine Relation
Are deity relations generally known ICly? If so, how? Some may be fairly obvious (Toran doesn't like Pyrtechon, go figure), others not so much. Especially to those of us who aren't clerics, how would one know what our deity feels about esomeone else's? | | | | |
03-28-07, 01:45 PM
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#14 | | The Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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| Re: Divine Relation
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I seem to recall that it was actually an action taken by the divinely touched while they were praying in which they would ask for guidance and thus receive it in the form of the relation your deity has to the character you cast it on, but due to the limits of NWN it was made a spell for it to even work.
| That is correct, nobody knows you're actually doing it. Quote: |
Are deity relations generally known ICly?
| A cleric of deity A, would know the relations deity A has with others.
Cleric of Deity A would know a lot less about the relation of deity B or C with others.
Non-cleric characters may know the rough things about their deity's feelings to another deity (especially when pretty devout and only following a single deity), but they wouldn't be walking encyclopedia's of relationships.
Even I OOCly (as Loremaster) don't know them all from the top of my head and I've been working with them for years, so a character really shouldn't know all relationships either, especially non-obvious ones. | | | | |
03-28-07, 02:09 PM
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#15 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Re: Divine Relation
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Originally Posted by ycleption Are deity relations generally known ICly? If so, how? Some may be fairly obvious (Toran doesn't like Pyrtechon, go figure), others not so much. Especially to those of us who aren't clerics, how would one know what our deity feels about esomeone else's? | By asking a Cleric of your faith.
Oh, btw, let's make sure this doesn't fall into another conversation about the evils of Divine Relation. | | | | |
03-28-07, 03:29 PM
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| Re: Divine Relation
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Originally Posted by Eight-Bit By asking a Cleric of your faith.
Oh, btw, let's make sure this doesn't fall into another conversation about the evils of Divine Relation. | Evil! its so eeevvviiilll! Like, it allows clerics to know my Acacea worship! | | | | |
03-28-07, 04:15 PM
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#17 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orlando, FL
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| Re: Divine Relation
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Originally Posted by Eight-Bit By asking a Cleric of your faith.
Oh, btw, let's make sure this doesn't fall into another conversation about the evils of Divine Relation. | Hehe
As a cleric, I use Divine Relation all the time now, but I use it in the manner that Leather, Orth, and the others stated and intended it to be used in the original post. They stated that others do not see you doing it, I always cast that spell in combat and if someone says something i have always sent them a tell saying you can not see the spell.
I have also not had any other issues with that spell since the original post. I would like to think that some of that is due to the original post, but the other part of me knows that spell is no longer an issue with Daralith because he kind of stands out now =) | | | | |
03-28-07, 08:17 PM
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#18 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Re: Divine Relation
With the way the Raise system works if we were to loose Divine Relation I would just not raise people.  Simple as that. | | | | |
