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04-06-07, 02:28 AM
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| Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Kinai Kinsei
Request for Alignment Change to Chaotic Neutral
Kinai Kinsei had first began as a simple-minded "Hlint Hlint" girl, immature and doing things on compulsive decision. She was always the known troublemaker as a child, sneaking about and defying her parents. Even still, however, her father had raised her with his basic framework of law with a spice of "as long as you're following basic rules, things can go." He had mainly allowed her to be brought up, however, to do as her ideas had driven her, raising her on and between good and evil, chaotic and lawful. This of course brought me to choose NG for her alignment.
As time went on, however, she slowly began a "descent" of morals and beliefs. When she had first met Czukay and his group, her mindset of killing never being enjoyable became warped into something slightly more darker, to the point where she looked up at him like a best friend. That was most likely the fall of what would have always held up her neutral yet swaying towards good stance on most situations, as the pure ideaology of basic frameworks of laws from her father were blurred when she continued her many journeys with the dark count.
Meeting Hawk also could be considered a "bad influence," as during her chats with him, he had basically taught her nothing was wrong as long as it was fun. She definitely grew more chaotic in life, pulling off a stunt that went completely overboard and quite against the law - not that she ever meant to kill or hurt anyone as NG, although roleplaying her towards more of a CN, she is less worried of a bit of harm.
He had also taught her that good and evil were merely perceptions, and that what was meant to be followed was right and wrong. This, on top of the ideals being what should drive you instinct from childhood, spawned into an independent thought process of what mattered to her most more than what was considered bad. For example, in a DM quest with Makashi, she had killed Avierra - technically an evil act - because she felt it was the right thing to do, the only thing to do, after being threatened from a drow mage and not wanting to put her friends to risk.
She is not necessarily apathetic to what goes around her, she joins in a lot just because she finds it fun, but is not the kind who goes constantly out of her way because some divine goodie force compels her to. She does it when she's in the mood for it, and if not, she'll point at someone who she thinks would help either way.
Anyhow, the main influences that's caused me to ask of Kinai's CN request is Makashi's DM quest involving the keys and the artifacts, her CDQ of becoming a shadowdancer, influences from people such as Hawk and Czukay, and the backstabbing she felt she had faced from others when Lin'da had tried to seek revenge for Avierra's death that made her grow more independent in thought and action.
Here's Kinai's Original Submission http://www.layonara.com/character-ap...ai-kinsei.html
Here's Kinai's CDT (the bottom of page 1 and most of page 2 shows the slow progression of her becoming CN, although the post "Shedding of Pre-set Defines" probably states it the most blatantly) http://www.layonara.com/development-...memo-book.html
- I have played here for over two months and Kinai is above level ten.
- I have read the information on LORE and plan to play Kinai as CN to the best of my ability: "Chaotic Neutral characters are strongly independant. They don't care much for Good or Evil, and, while they will avoid harming innocents, they will generally make no strong effort to help. They will sometimes act in a benevolent way, but it will be as much because of personal mood as because of any moral principle. They dislike law and society, but will not try to overthrow it; that would require a belief in an end, which would imply Good or Evil.
Chaotic Neutral is a restricted alignment. See Alignment Rules for more information.
Chaotic Neutral Characters:
May keep his word.
Lies and cheats if he feels it necessary.
Never kill an unarmed foe, but may knock out or beat up one.
Never kill an innocent but may harm or kidnap.
Will use torture to extract information but not for pleasure.
Seldom kills for pleasure.
Is not likely to help someone without an ulterior motive. (Even if its just showing off!).
Has little respect for authority.
Does not work well within groups - tends to do as he pleases, despite orders to the contrary.
Will usually take dirty money or items.
Is very unlikely to betray a friend."
- If this requires a CDQ, I would happily request one on April 8th when the two months wait has been up, and if possible, could I keep this thread then for asking again upon it when the time comes around?
- On another note, I have been RPing Kinai's alignment change request since she had met Czukay, and it being a very slow process, would be happier if this continued on its slow process instead of a complete and sudden change in a CDQ. Again, I will request one on April 8th if this is a requirement.
- I will continue updating my CDT regularly to show her full settling into CN once it is approved.
- Thanks for your time!
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04-06-07, 06:14 AM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Neutral Good to Chaotic Neutral is a two-step change. That's pretty drastic move. If approved, it's going to have to take place very slowly and gradually.
If the choice were to move from NG to either CG or TN (instead of CN), which do you think would be more appropriate? (Not that such a choice would necessarily be enforced, I only ask the question to clarify the character's mindset and personality.)
In the meantime, please remember that you must roleplay the alignment you were approved for unless and until the shift is approved.
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04-06-07, 09:48 AM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change I personally think TN would be better because, in my opinion, TN is more of an unsure state (at least for Kinai) between the "right and and wrong" perspectives, and it could be part of the slow change in between. CG feels more firm in their beliefs and less neutral in general for me.
And yes, no worries! Her general actions when presented with a decent choice (not life vs death sort of things) are NG related for now. Her own thoughts, however, are what I'm slowly changing. Perspectives first, because that's always the first thing to go, and then later on -slowly- influencing them into actions. Once approved, of course, the more CN actions will begin to take place
Thanks.
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04-06-07, 12:54 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Thanks for the update. We are discussing amongst ourselves and will try to get back to you before too long (but we are spread out over a few time zones...) | | |
04-06-07, 01:00 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change That's fine. Thank you VERY much for the consideration...  Either way, if I'm approved for CN, I'll be going slowly into it instead of a random CN jump. Just thought I'd make that clear.
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04-07-07, 06:07 AM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change After discussing with the team, there are some concerns that you have not been playing your current alignment particularly well. As such, the team has reached a consensus that a move to CN would not be appropriate at this time.
However, if acceptable to you, a gradual alignment shift to TN, with a CDQ requirement to finalize it, would be possible. | | |
04-07-07, 10:52 AM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change I'll go with a gradual move to TN and see what I can do from there. Thanks.
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04-07-07, 11:28 AM
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#8 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Oh, which brings me to another point, can I use this thread and link it to my CDQ request when tomorrow comes along for an alignment change to TN?
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04-07-07, 10:36 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change yes that would be the best way to do it.
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04-10-07, 02:08 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Quick question while this alignment business is still going on.
What are my chances for Chaotic Good?
I'm sort of trying to think of the best way to roleplay Kinai into an alignment, so I'm just curious to see what my luck is for that.
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04-10-07, 03:57 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Well, bear in mind, the authorization is for the beginnings of roleplay in the direction you choose. Up until you're authorized, stick to your alignment like glue.
That being said, Chaotic Good or True Neutral are equally accessible - authorization is usually based on how your character adheres to their approved alignment (with occasional exceptions, of course, for colour), rather than any leaning they might be portraying. | | |
04-10-07, 05:08 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change I was just making sure I had a choice to request a CDQ for either one, so I could think on which direction I would want to take Kinai in the future.
Thank you!
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04-10-07, 05:30 PM
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#13 | | Ancient Dragon Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern CA Bay Area
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change how much fun for you  Kinai is at a cross roads in her life. Have fun with it.
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06-03-07, 05:20 AM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change This thread appears to have been completed, if not really resolved. Unless objection is raised, it will be deleted on the fifth. | | |
06-03-07, 05:33 AM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change This has not been finished yet (CDQ pending) so please do not delete the thread.
Actually, it's best if the thread is not deleted at all, even after the CDQ has finished, but rather moved to the "approved" forum instead! (for future tracking purpose) 
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06-04-07, 01:15 PM
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| Re: Resubmission - Kinai Kinsei - Alignment Change Successful CDQ for a shift towards True Neutral.
2 points of evil received.
Kinai should receive 1 or 2 points each week until she has enough for (barely) True Neutral (i.e. until she has only 64-ish points on the evil/good scale... or something like that... not 100% sure about the exact number).
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