Storold Doesscha, submit for change of class

[Pibemanden]

Name :Storold Doesccha
Race :Human
Alignment : LG (83)(93)
Diety :Lucinda
Classes : Wizard/Paladin/Spellsword 21/9/?(hopefully 10)
CDT

Storold has very recently found himself interested in persueing the path of enchanting his rapier with the powers of the weave to help him in combat for the Lady of Spells name. This wont be a change from his protector status but rather just a change of what he will have his arcane focus directed at. He will still study abjuration along with the arts of enchanting his rapier.
The spellswords ability to ignore the arcane failure of armors aren't an issue to Storold since he already have auto still III and casts all his spells without somatic component. So the only thing he will be working at for now is the power that he needs to actually channel the weave to his rapier.
I am fully aware that he is no where near getting to terms with this change and doesn't have any clue about how he can enchant his blade yet. However I am asking for this change before I am letting him take to RP steps towards the class itself. For now he has only shown interest to the lessons he has watched and has some notes from what he was able to catch.
I am fully aware of the multiclass restrictions of the paladin class and I wouldn't mind not being able to return to taking levels in that if I am approved for this change. I will not leave the path of being a Protector of the Weave as a result of this, as I do believe that Storold isn't going against his dogma by focusing on other parts of the weave than strictly casting divine and arcane spells.
I know that this will most probably take a cdq or more to achieve and the issue will be addressed on Storolds WLDQ, if it is needed but I am heavily assuming that it will have to be. So I would like the Character approvers thoughts on this before moving on with the idea and making Storold ready to take the final steps to become a succesfull Protector/Spellsword.

-Pibemanden

[jrizz]

Just to be clear this is a request to start to RP in that direction? Does that mean when you are ready you will submit again for approval to take level?

[jrizz]

As for my opinion on this, well Storold has been a teacher about how to use the weave to many people that have had goals such as spell sword and AA. So I wouls assume that he has had many conversations and already done study on the subject. So I see this as a case of the teacher being ignited by the students and should not take much RP to move this way.

[Pibemanden]

My problem is the Paladin multiclass rules, I know that Storold has been working with many AAs and seen some spellswords. However this change of class is illegal due to the no multiclass of paladins. I just want to know if I am allowed to step out of the class for the purpose of RPing another part of the weave than the standart divine/arcane one.

Lady of the Weave, I have heard your call and I will answer.
I vow to be your servant and protect those who serve you.
I shall defend Your Faith, Your Faithful and the Weave to the best of my abilities.
I shall seek out those who corrupt the Weave and bring them to justice.
I shall accompany and protect those who work in Your name.

By my word, I am Yours.

This is Storolds original paladin vow, however this is the rule stated on LORE about paladin multiclassing.

Paladins may not freely multiclass with any base or prestige class except those specifically allowed by different religions and sects within those religions. See Paladin Information, Toran, Vorax, Lucinda for more.

Storold is by this free to multiclass with mage levels since he is part of the chapter of protection. However he isn't allowed to take any other levels than mage and paladin.
So I am asking if I can RP my way towards spellsword maybe giving up the chance to take additional paladin levels but still remaining a protector in the chapter of protection.

[jrizz]

Hmm, my thoughts would be that it would be a very natural progression for a Paladin of Lucinda. That is to "channel" the weave through his weapon. But the divine powers granted by Lucinda can be seen as doing just that.

I will take this to the team for dicussion. Please hold on.

[Acacea]

Is it correct that you are not submitting to take the levels at this time, but rather after he develops towards that path and the possible outcome of his WLDQ and so on? It looked like you just wanted to make sure he could remain a Protector before starting to work on it.

Sure, presuming he regains all his favor and all that, he can remain a Protector and level in Spellsword. Mechanically the rule will still be in effect, but there would not need to be a roleplaying of leaving the order or anything, just an agreement not to take any more paladin levels. Even if he did not regain his full abilities, you could of course still RP towards and attain the PrC, however it would be far more difficult (perhaps impossible) to retain his Protector status in that event.

Hope that answers the question. When you are requesting to take levels in the class, it will be evaluated as usual. Thanks!

[Pibemanden]

Originally Posted by Acacea

Is it correct that you are not submitting to take the levels at this time, but rather after he develops towards that path and the possible outcome of his WLDQ and so on? It looked like you just wanted to make sure he could remain a Protector before starting to work on it.

Sure, presuming he regains all his favor and all that, he can remain a Protector and level in Spellsword. Mechanically the rule will still be in effect, but there would not need to be a roleplaying of leaving the order or anything, just an agreement not to take any more paladin levels. Even if he did not regain his full abilities, you could of course still RP towards and attain the PrC, however it would be far more difficult (perhaps impossible) to retain his Protector status in that event.

Hope that answers the question. When you are requesting to take levels in the class, it will be evaluated as usual. Thanks!

Just to make absolutely sure, as I was only asking to be allowed to take RP steps towards the class and not for class levels itself, I will have to resubmit for the actual change when? 1) I am ready to have him move into the class, 2) When I am ready to start the WLDQ towards the class or 3) After my WLDQ has (hopefully) been succesfully completed?

[Acacea]

When you are ready to move into the class after taking whichever development steps towards it. If your WLDQ happens to be related to that subject and the class change is a result of that, I imagine that will be when you are ready, but either way, just whenever you're submitting to change classes hehe.

[Pibemanden]

Originally Posted by Acacea

When you are ready to move into the class after taking whichever development steps towards it. If your WLDQ happens to be related to that subject and the class change is a result of that, I imagine that will be when you are ready, but either way, just whenever you're submitting to change classes hehe.

And one final thing, it is alright to skip the training in casting in armor? Because in my oppinion it wouldn't make sense for Storold to focus on doing that since he has no issues what so ever with casting in armor as it has been since he casts everything without Somatic component anyway.

[Acacea]

He's clearly already trained to cast without penalty in armor, as he is already more advanced in that than any spellsword without Storold's experience would be able to attain. So develop what needs to be developed, keeping in mind his priorities if he wishes to retain/regain his status while also using new methods.

[Pibemanden]

I guess it is about time to submit Storold for final approval for this shift, the shift itself will depend on succesful WLDQ completion as has been discussed here. All I want approval for at the time is that Storold is ready to take the leap that it is to go through a CDQ((In this case WLDQ)) to attain the spellsword class.
I hope that I have made it clear through the two CDTs that Storold has trained hard both with his combat skills, Angela's part of it, and the general abbility to enchant his blade, Kalenth's part of it.
Another thing of note is that, as discussed above, Storold will never get the ability to ignore some of the armor failure that normal spellsword does. This is simply due to the fact that he only uses the gestures needed to cast the spells when it is needed to demonstrate for others because of epic still III. So he will never be able to use this ability or teach it IG as far as I understand, unless of course he suddenly finds a reason to study that field of casting which is highly unlikely.
So I hope there is enough information to clear the path for an approval for the change on succesful WLDQ.

Second CDT

-Pibemanden

[jrizz]

Yes I think you have your ducks all in a row on this. Approved.

[mixafix]

Due to circumstances beyond Storolds control WLDQ has been delayed. This has a knock on effect on XP build up etc over a long time now. Some RP towards development and storyline has been undertaken.

Storold can progress with level up and has agreed not to use imbue skill until appropriate part of WLDQ completed.

I have made the assumption the previous comments above this post permit this progress. In the event of a failed WLDQ matter will be reviewed, Storold is aware of this.

[Pibemanden]

Thank you for posting here Mix. And for clarity, I am well aware of the consequences of failure in the WLDQ and what it will impact on this approval.