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#1 | | The Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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| Player initiated investigation sessions Greetings,
we've been receiving requests on people wanting to pursue lines of investigation regarding the Dragon Storm plot.
You could use CDQ slots for this, but that would "cost" you a CDQ for your character. So what we'll do is Player Initiated Investigation Sessions.
These Investigation Sessions need to be for a group of players, as they should not be personal XP hunt sessions.
You can submit for one here by:
1) Indicating what you want to investigate, stating the clues/rumors/info you are basing it on.
2) Indicating what timezone you and the investigative party are in and at what times you are available, so we can look at GM availability
3) being aware that while this can be rewarding, it can also be dangerous or even lead you to nothing at all. 
4) realizing the sessions will probably be open to everyone (unless valid reasons are given)
These will not be very long sessions, probably no longer than an hour or two max. The idea is to gather information/investigate something which may be of use.
We'll then look at the proposed Investigation and let you know if we'll run it, or not (because it may be covered in another quest already, or can be done in a PM).
It is not intended to be a re-run of information already handed out in another quest, because for you guys to achieve the best outcome the playerbase will have to communicate with each other across timezones.
(Best is in the eye of the beholder BTW  E.g. Blood may have been defeated, but the Dark Ages killed millions, good/bad? No idea! Could it have gone different? Yes  )
There's a group of GMs across many timezones running stuff, and you may not even realize until later that something could be related to DS, so you'll have to talk.
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02-02-08, 06:55 AM
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Not overlapping any GM quests, I would thoroughly enjoy the chance to be involved in something like this. How do those not-in-the-know begin to get acclimated to the Dragon Storm campaign?
Will these player investigations be put on the GM / Player calendar for us to join in on?
It's the "chicken and the egg," I don't know enough ICly (or even OOCly) to initiate an investigation which would lead to further fun.
Edit: Perhaps the WLs that know things could use the town criers to make suggestions on paths of investigation. They can add things to them, right?
Great idea, my thanks!
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02-02-08, 07:13 AM
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions There are numerous active PCs who know bits and pieces of information on the current plot. Some know much, other little, many know different things since quests that affect the plot have been spread out over all timezones via different GMs.
Start to ask around and I wager you'll soon find someone who can help you. And the towncriers may already have things to tell you... if you ask the right way. *shifty* | | |
02-09-08, 05:29 PM
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Okay lets get the ball rolling:
// Please note I am keeping this here for the future...instead I wish to go back and revisit the notion of investigating how the Dragon stealers are finding out where the Dragons are located. I believe there may be some magical means they are using to divine the locations of dragons. other than that there must be another means they are using i want to try and locate and then take it from there...
1/ Please refer to the last report regarding information about Phal from Harlas's quest: http://forums.layonara.com/rofirein/...ctivities.html
2/ AEST timezone and those who will (if able) accompany me will be: Lexor, Argali, Hilda, Angela Swan, Alantha, Arkolio (unless Pseudo is running it), Sala Stonehill, Jin Lun lee, Arynne, and possibly a mix of a few others.
3/ Considering last time we travelled to Belinara there was an attempted assassination of us and other nasty treats this is understood!
4/ Totally acceptable and welcome!
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions // Hey Dezza, just to let you know I can't see that Forum you are pointing to. -Stragen | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions //yeah you know im up for it
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions // Alright then. Let us find a day and time, so I can run this for you.
Since it will likely be Australian time, it should be a weekend. How about Saturday or Sunday the 8.th or 9.th of March? | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions That should work for me. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlas Ravelkione // Alright then. Let us find a day and time, so I can run this for you.
Since it will likely be Australian time, it should be a weekend. How about Saturday or Sunday the 8.th or 9.th of March? | I would prefere the 9th then as my wife and daughter will be out of the house for most of the day anyhow 
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions These player initiated quest are they locked? or would you know bits and pieces of it, if you hung around those people above it, and could join on that basis?
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Talk to those in question in game. There should be a reason for you to know where to be at the time of the quest, and you should know what is it about. Explanations and description of past events should be handled before the quest and not during the quest. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions // Sat 8 March Evening AEST or Sunday 9 March Morning or Evening AEST works for me. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions I have Rodlins WLQD saturday night. Sunday is doable but prefer anytime next weekend if possible?
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02-29-08, 01:56 AM
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Alright. I'll add a calendar event for next Sunday then. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions A recent post reminded me I had been intending on doing this...
1) Basically, I was talking about a stealth mission into Milara's realm, to investigate the darkness covering it.
Drexia has been curious about what lies in Milara's realm, especially since the treaty was signed just before she made her way into the world. She has been trying to find someone to tell her whether going in would have political ramification since the treaty expired years ago, and finally found that it wouldn't.
A recent conversation with Plen has highlighted the importance of the area, and figuring out what is happening; he said that nothing could be seen from the skies, and I think many people are curious whether anything can be found from a mission via ground.
2) Late evenings CST are best for me, some fridays and weekends might work if it would allow more interested parties to join.
3) Absolutely. Drexia is certainly not expecting to find anything, and the danger has certainly been stressed enough.
4) I think this should be as open as possible, subject to RP considerations. There are some people Drexia would refuse to allow to come with her, as I'm sure would others who might be coming. Other than that, I think anyone who is willing to leave clanky armor behind, and who has some credentials in the stealthy department (or can convince a mage in the party to cast hiding-type spells on them) would be welcome.
If the DM wants to put a cap on the number of people who could attend, I would ask that those who were present when Plen was talking to the group of us on Dregar be given priority.
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Abi is very interested in doing this. She has discussed this with Drexia a couple of times along with a couple of other trustworthy adventurers.
She has been to a couple of different gathering where Plen gave some history, and talked to us at length about Milara and the need to find out what he is up to.
I think the main goal of the expedition would be to try and discover the disposition (ya for military speak!) of milaras forces. Is he gearing up for a war? If not, can we discern what is causing the cloud?
And depending on what we find..maybe cause some mischief for milara.
Most evenings are good for me..Im CST (chicago standard time), but im pretty flexible. 
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Drexia and ABi and a small group have set things in motion.
Now to see what happens. 
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions *drops down from the sill*
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Sasha has been continuing to gather information about the Dragon Stealers in order to find a weakness that can be exploited. Now that we know for sure that Phal is in the hands of the enemy Sasha wants to take another tact since an all out attack on Phal where they are raising an army is not an option at this time.
Sasha has new information about how the Dragon Stealers are finding more dragons to corrupt and wants to investigate it by going to Spellguard and seeing if she can speak with people there adept at scrying and other magical means.
Sasha will be accompanied by Storold and several others who have a vested interest in pursuing this avenue.
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Wren and Berak were confronted by a woman that exuded power. She questioned him about the place where Blood fell and how the crater was formed. He told her the story as he knows it and she told him that he needed to get his facts straight. She seemed to hint that maybe the blood pool was not destroyed or that it was not the cause of the destruction. Then she called on some man that told us to leave. We left he seemed like a serious guy. Wren wants to investigate this over all the other things he has heard about. He has spoken about it with a few folks but none that could shed any light on it. He would like to form an investigation team and go down into the crater to see if there is anything to help shed some light on this.
I am PST, Monday nights are good starting at 9 but really any weeknight Mon to Thurs starting at 9PM PST.
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Quote:
Originally Posted by jrizz Wren and Berak were confronted by a woman that exuded power. She questioned him about the place where Blood fell and how the crater was formed. He told her the story as he knows it and she told him that he needed to get his facts straight. She seemed to hint that maybe the blood pool was not destroyed or that it was not the cause of the destruction. Then she called on some man that told us to leave. We left he seemed like a serious guy. Wren wants to investigate this over all the other things he has heard about. He has spoken about it with a few folks but none that could shed any light on it. He would like to form an investigation team and go down into the crater to see if there is anything to help shed some light on this.
I am PST, Monday nights are good starting at 9 but really any weeknight Mon to Thurs starting at 9PM PST. | Most of the information you are looking for is already available in game. Without further specification on what you are looking for (see item #1 in my post, the clues/rumors/info part) this is not approved at the moment.
Remember, it needs to be pretty specific as it'll only be one-two hours. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions *looks up and frowns* As that is all that was said to him that is all he has to go on. Wren has asked around IG and came up with nothing. And in the thread that pointed me here of all the posted information there we nothing about this. Have any suggestions? I suppose Wren can repeat the above story to everyone he meets in hopes that someone knows something but then again since a lot of this stuff is being kept secret by those that know it then he may never be able to find it out. And since the info is already in the hands of some players no one else can investigate the same thing. Rock...hard place
But maybe I was not clear. When Wren told her the story of the final days of the war with Blood he did not get his "facts" wrong as they have been told in history and by those that were there. Yet still she indicated that maybe we were wrong about that history. does that help?
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Ok new request based on last nights plot quest.
1) Wren wants to investigate why the dragon Ractrafieroz is working with humans in the fighting in the kingdom of Kuhl. Here is the information he has:
1. Ractrafieroz is a legendary beast described as being nearly six hundred feet long
2. A corroding armour of rusty metal covers it's massive body, making it nearly impervious to harm.
3. the dragon is unchallenged.
4. It disappeared during the reign of Bloodstone. Whether it went into hiding or simply 'left' like so many others is unknown.
5. Its back and is working with the dragon stealers and apparently of its own accord.
6. It does not seem to be under the influence of the poison.
7. thus far no one has been able to come up with a reason for such a beast to join a faction of humans.
8. Said by Alexander Fortain "Perhaps that is something for you to look into. Why does this beast join our enemy?"
9. I would imagine that you might even compare Ractrafieroz to Fisterion
2) I am in PST but EDT and Hawaii time both work as well.
3) Yep i know this can be deadly but he is not looking to fight just gather information.
4) Should be open to all.
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09-22-08, 04:20 AM
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Alrighty. Before we start working on a date and time I would like to know how and where you wish to investigate this matter.
What does Wren do? Where does he start? Whom does he seek out?
You are free to post an answer here, or you can PM me once you have made up your mind about this. Also, please discuss this with other players who you might ask for advice and who might participate in the event.
I ask this of you not because I wish to discourage you - on the contrary. I would like to see players on these quests that are well informed and know what they set out to do. This way no time is wasted and the maximum output may be gained. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Thanks, give me a little time as I am trying to gather information IG and spread the tale as much as I can. Initially Wren will return to the camp of Alexander Fortain to seek an audience with him and with his councilor. He hopes to bring some people smarter then himself with him. He has discussed this with Abiorn, Emie, and Elgon already. If he can get some time with Alexander Fortain Then he will try to get as much information about the enemy movements, guard posts, scouts, camps, and make up as possible. Also if they have any information on movements of the Dragon? Have they seen or heard of any other dragons besides Ractrafieroz being with the enemy? Are there elves in the make up of the enemies forces? is one important question. Wren is thinking that maybe to gain information he will go "enlist" with the enemy. But that is just his first thought. He knows that this is not an effort of battle but one of subterfuge and stealth and as such he will try to bring in people of those skills. Wren is not skilled in stealth but he knows that sometimes the best place to hide is right out in the open. Thus joining the enemy ranks could be a good way for him to go.
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions I know you have just finished the last one but the Marked are now in a state of limbo..they fulfilled Fisterions geas and now it seems we are still marked...we need to go see him and find out why!
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezza I know you have just finished the last one but the Marked are now in a state of limbo..they fulfilled Fisterions geas and now it seems we are still marked...we need to go see him and find out why! | *grins the GM grin*
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions I would like to request a session to investigate Storans tomb carefully for anything hidden as per Demisa request. | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Thanks for this request Pibemanden, we'll get back to you shortly.
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Originally Posted by Pibemanden I would like to request a session to investigate Storans tomb carefully for anything hidden as per Demisa request. | What does Storold do beforehand (if anything)? Where does he start? Whom does he seek out beforehand (if anyone)? | | |
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Originally Posted by EdTheKet What does Storold do beforehand (if anything)? Where does he start? Whom does he seek out beforehand (if anyone)? | Thanks for PM, planning for this Saturday evening (GMT time). | | |
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Storold would like to request a meeting with Racie Shelly and/or Jimman Ebbers in castle Imjam when possible, this involves the group from the Storan trip plus the ones Storold has spoken to about the issue. | | |
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| Travel to the Great Library on Voltrex Having received the answer to a number of questions, some of the things Darthirâe intends to investigate have changed. Also, since she now knows that the portal to the Great Library on Voltrex is open to all, there are no specific party requirements.
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Darthirâe intends to use the teleportation portal out of Blackford castle to go to the Great Library on Voltrex. She intends to pursue a number of lines of investigation while there.
This is driven by information she has gleaned from in-game knowledge from various PCs, and also from things that have been posted in many public taverns.
She is looking for the answers to a number of questions:
1] She has learned the earthquakes are being caused by the large scale mining of Mithril and titanium. She also knows that the sun elves in Voltrex are requesting those metals. She would like to know to what purpose?
2] Are the elves on Voltrex aware of the songs being sung on seaside taverns as a warning/threat to stop building Ov'dear. Do they know who is spreading them and what purpose they may have?
3] That song specifically mentions that "those who play with fire get burned". Is there great magical significance associated with the site?
4] How, and more importantly, why, was Ov'dear destroyed originally?
5] What has become common knowledge in the Great Library about the Green Dragon cult? This knowledge may not be so common on Mistrone.
6] What do they know about any miner who is collecting Mithril?
7] What are the dragons of note who still remain in the world? This new phenomena seem to be intricately tied up with Dragons - Dragon cults, undead Dragons from crypts, other Dragons.
8] Darthirâe is also interested in researching stories related to the ancient conflicts of the Dragons, specifically because she believes that the trigger of the current unsettled situation was the death of Bloodstone. One possible explanation is that having lost their common enemy, some ancient dragons may have decided to rekindle an old war.
9] As general research, but also potentially to gain clues, Darthirâe would also be researching all knowledge of "lost" (or hidden) Gods. She would again be focusing largely on the Draconic ones.
10] She would also be quietly listening to learn any other information being discussed on the closed continent.
There are other things Darthirâe would be looking to find out, but they more properly, belong as a CDQ.
I am in the US Pacific TZ, and am generally available evenings, and days on weekends.
Party restrictions: Darthirâe would be happy to form a team to perform this research. It appears that so long as one is within the Library, one is welcome there.
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| Re: Travel to the Great Library on Voltrex Sorry for the late respons, but the GMs working on the plot are currently experiencing months of business and RL pulls us away from time to time.
Now for your request. Many of your questions (miner, titanium, earthquakes, etc.) do not concern the plot, but a WLDQ that is currently being ran for a player and his group of friends. The events influence the world at large and I can see why you thought they were related to the campaign. My best advice is to seek more information in game, until you stumble upon someone who is actually partaking in the quest or the prospective world leader himself.
The Ovdear question is probably not something you can research in a library. Information may be sought from players though, who attended the quests.
Regarding your general research towards the green dragon cult, much information can be gained from players who have participated in one or more of the numerous plot quests and who have followed the rumours posted on our forums.
Most of your questions are very good, but they are far apart because they concern various different matters. If you focus your questions and narrow it down towards the current dragon storm plot, we will be more than happy to run an investigation session in the Great Library on Voltrex. What I ask of you beforehand is to gather information - perhaps through arranging a meeting, calling upon those who have knowledge to share on current matters. In fact, there are many pieces of the puzzle out there. Some know some, some know others. It would serve all if information was shared between all parties involved.
I hope that helps.
Harlas Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveMaurer Having received the answer to a number of questions, some of the things Darthirâe intends to investigate have changed. Also, since she now knows that the portal to the Great Library on Voltrex is open to all, there are no specific party requirements.
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Darthirâe intends to use the teleportation portal out of Blackford castle to go to the Great Library on Voltrex. She intends to pursue a number of lines of investigation while there.
This is driven by information she has gleaned from in-game knowledge from various PCs, and also from things that have been posted in many public taverns.
She is looking for the answers to a number of questions:
1] She has learned the earthquakes are being caused by the large scale mining of Mithril and titanium. She also knows that the sun elves in Voltrex are requesting those metals. She would like to know to what purpose?
2] Are the elves on Voltrex aware of the songs being sung on seaside taverns as a warning/threat to stop building Ov'dear. Do they know who is spreading them and what purpose they may have?
3] That song specifically mentions that "those who play with fire get burned". Is there great magical significance associated with the site?
4] How, and more importantly, why, was Ov'dear destroyed originally?
5] What has become common knowledge in the Great Library about the Green Dragon cult? This knowledge may not be so common on Mistrone.
6] What do they know about any miner who is collecting Mithril?
7] What are the dragons of note who still remain in the world? This new phenomena seem to be intricately tied up with Dragons - Dragon cults, undead Dragons from crypts, other Dragons.
8] Darthirâe is also interested in researching stories related to the ancient conflicts of the Dragons, specifically because she believes that the trigger of the current unsettled situation was the death of Bloodstone. One possible explanation is that having lost their common enemy, some ancient dragons may have decided to rekindle an old war.
9] As general research, but also potentially to gain clues, Darthirâe would also be researching all knowledge of "lost" (or hidden) Gods. She would again be focusing largely on the Draconic ones.
10] She would also be quietly listening to learn any other information being discussed on the closed continent.
There are other things Darthirâe would be looking to find out, but they more properly, belong as a CDQ.
I am in the US Pacific TZ, and am generally available evenings, and days on weekends.
Party restrictions: Darthirâe would be happy to form a team to perform this research. It appears that so long as one is within the Library, one is welcome there. |
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| Re: Travel to the Great Library on Voltrex Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlas Ravelkione
Most of your questions are very good, but they are far apart because they concern various different matters. If you focus your questions and narrow it down towards the current dragon storm plot, we will be more than happy to run an investigation session in the Great Library on Voltrex. What I ask of you beforehand is to gather information - perhaps through arranging a meeting, calling upon those who have knowledge to share on current matters. In fact, there are many pieces of the puzzle out there. Some know some, some know others. It would serve all if information was shared between all parties involved.
I hope that helps.
Harlas | Based on the advice above, I've revised Darthirâe's list of questions specifically to addressing the Green Dragon cult. This isn't because she doesn't have other questions, but simply because GMs don't have time to do multiple simlutaneous campaigns. Instead of a "time bubble", call it a "campaign focus bubble".
She has also had several in-game conversations. However, there seems to be extreme reticence among the leaders of the investigation to divulge any information at all, at least not to people they haven't more than a decade of in-game companionship with. These may be entirely reasonable in-character behaviors, but it also makes putting the puzzle pieces together - and advancing the plot - very difficult.
So let me point out that while the GMs have given this information out to other players, this should not block Darthirâe from asking again - especially if those players are either never around, or are unwilling to talk to anyone about it.
This is the revised set of questions, based entirely on conversations she's had, public information stated to be widely available in the Rumors section, her own deductive powers, high Gather Info skill, and natural INT of 22. (She's a regular Sherlock Elf.) - Are there any other known huge Green Dragons other than the one reputed to have been slain in 1384?
- Does anyone know what precisely happened to the Green Dragon that was slain? Could he or she have been turned into some undead? She will consult the Clerics of Aerdin, as they are the most pure anti-undead cult there is out there. (The reasons for her suspicion is listed in the question below.)
- Were there any identifiable marks on the Green Dragon that might allow someone to determine whether the skeletal undead dragon that was seen flying from the Krondor Crypts are both the same? A missing claw, or something like that?
- What do alchemical researchers know about potions or poisons that would allow one to control or "steal" anyone, much less a living dragon? Are there similar potions of lesser effects? Do they, as with most potions, require periodic reapplication to maintain their effects?
- What are the ingredients needed to make this class of potion or poison? Are these, as it is for most things of great power, made of rare and potent ingredients?
- Where would those ingredients exist? Killing cultists harvesting these ingredients would end the practice, especially if any remaining stash could be attacked and destroyed.
If the effects of such a potion or poison is known, do alchemists know of any antidote?- Assuming that the Dragon Stealers are still in the business of stealing dragons, Darthirâe will also be going to Storolds (where they were reputably found last) to carefully search for any secret passages leading to a hidden Dragon lair.
- She also wishes to seek an audience with Fisterion, to tell him what she knows by that time, and learn of what he knows about the fate of his subjects. (This means she also wishes to learn how to find him.)
- The Dragon Stealers seem to be very anti-Dragon, which gives Darthirâe the idea that they might be connected to some remnant of Sinthar Bloodstone's retinue. Do the librarians know anything about the origins of this so-called "cult", where they first surfaced, and who was leading them?
- She wants to "follow the truths". Rare magics, ships, and armies do not come cheap, and are expensive to maintain. Who is trading supplies to this "cult"? Who is bankrolling them?
- What is known about these "giant flying sharks" that these cultists possess. Where do their originate from, how are they controlled (by the same poison or potion that is controlling the dragons perhaps?), what are their known weaknesses, if any?
- The term "cult" implies worship of a God. Green Dragons are typically not considered Gods, nor are undead. So does anyone with knowledge of necromancy know if it is possible for a spirit to possess the body of the undead of another? Darthirâe specifically fears that some portion of Sinthar Bloodstone's spirit might have been recovered and bound into the bones of the slain Green Dragon. Or something similar. Anything less would simply not be worthy of worship.
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Having spoken to Ferrit Pandorn, Darthirâe has had several of her questions answered. However, this only brings up more: - For creating an antidote, are there any known cairns where a Unicorn who died of natural causes was entombed?
- What species is the closest relative of Unicorns? (Are there Sea Unicorns, for instance?) These might be able to serve as a source of an alternate - perhaps less effective?
- Is clipping Unicorn hair something that harms it?
- Insofar as the poison is concerned, the draconic nature of its effects leads Darthirâe to the supposition that one of the ingredients is closely associated with Dragons. Perhaps the flesh of the Green Dragon was used to that purpose. Who is known for doing research into that kind of extremely ancient alchemy?
- How is the Green Dragon cult recruiting people? What's their pitch?
- Are there any refugees out of Kuhl or Nesar who can explain what is happening inside those conquered lands. Are the peasants now working for them willingly, or is the land being emptied of people and useful hands to do work for them?
- Are there any known rifts in Al'Noth around? Based on its effects, this poison is clearly highly magical. She wonders if tying someone afflicted by it down in a zone of dead magic for an extended period might sap it of its power and allow them to heal.
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Those are her initial questions. Its up to you to decide if they're worthy of running a game around them. (I must note that Darthirâe, who does not do OOC things to start fights just for the XP, has only just reached level 9, so does not qualify for a CDQ; that may affect your decision.)
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Hello SteveMaurer,
As to 'CDQ' rules, plot related events instigated by players do not fall under the CDQ rules, so don't worry about level in that regard.
Quick question here. Are you still planning on seeking your answers via the Great Library or was there some other method you wished to employ?
Thank you,
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowana Hello SteveMaurer,
As to 'CDQ' rules, plot related events instigated by players do not fall under the CDQ rules, so don't worry about level in that regard.
Quick question here. Are you still planning on seeking your answers via the Great Library or was there some other method you wished to employ?
Thank you,
~row | Darthirâe would not see it as either/or. The Great Library is a necessary stop, because she believes it has a good chance at having at least some of the information she needs, but it is by no means the last one.
Because of her in-game investigations, she has already obtained partial answers to some of her questions. This has led her to consider other activities for either herself, or more powerful people, to accomplish: - In looking for refugees out of Kuhl, she will be looking around all the port cities. A coin here or there for people to keep their eyes and ears open.
- At the same time, she would start looking for rogues, rangers, and brave spies to infiltrate Green Dragon country to report on what they see. (She probably wouldn't go there herself.)
- Have a powerful group capture a group of cultists, and see exactly what happens if they are kept imprisoned. Reason Why: A leading theory about the cult is that to humans, the Dragon Poison is more like a drug that cultists are addicted to (this would explain why the Cult hasn't had a single leak or betrayer, because the Cult is the only supplier). If that is the case, the poison would always be on their person. Does withdrawal lead to death?
- As part of the above, this might presumably lead to the capture of more poison. If this was the case, she would want a second expedition to head into the rift with it. Reason Why: To test if this might provide an alternate cure, at least for humans that could be tied down for an extended time in the zone (Dragons would have to use the Unicorn cure - they're simply too big to restrain).
- Get the actual name of the nobleman who is a Green Dragon cultist spy (she does not know who it is right now) and find a master thief to attempt to pickpocket him. If the Cult itself has no shipment, having his "fix" would provide leverage over him. If the zone of dead magic was successful in neutralizing the poison, it might even be possible to cure him, and thus "flip" him to our side.
- Part of the Library quest would be to attempt to find out specific information on Shadrixkayl, the Shadow Dragon. Is his rivalry with Fisterion so great that the two will not ally against this mutual danger?
- She will be specifically looking up all information on Unicorns that she can. Both types. In whatever libraries she can reach.
- She will probably travel to the Krondor Crypts, presumably with a powerful party, to investigate specifically what is going on there. This may not have anything to do with the Green Dragon cult. It may be related to a Lich. But if the undead Dragon was one of the ones whose flesh was used in the creation of the Dragon Poison, it, or its revifier, might have useful information. (This would be an exceedingly tricky and dangerous quest.)
- She would be seeking audiences with any major player that might have information. (One, in particular, whose name escapes me.)
- Of course going to the Deep is a possibility. To do so herself, even accompanied by the most powerful of people, would be foolish. But that would not mean she would not consider it. (She might even possibly survive, if aided by a combination of distance from the main party, stealth, and invisibility.)
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions Alright your IG researching is great and seems you are doing well with contacting others and gathering information. The issue is we need to break these things down into one request at a time because no player initiated plot quest is going to be able to encompass so much. Please select a few items and one general target location/event to start with and we will see where it goes from there.
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| Re: Player initiated investigation sessions I see these as all being firmly sealed inside time-bubbles, so I leave it completely up to you to decide what you think would be fun to run. I would only suggest that you do the lower-level roleplaying things first, because getting together a higher level combat mission is going to take more in-game work to get everyone to agree to go. (Also, the lower level stuff lets players who normally would be squished in combat to actually get involved in the main campaign.)
So, my suggestion would be for you to pick what you want to do out of the following: - Some lower level game around finding refugees out of Kuhl, if there are any. This could be VERY low level, something like 1-8, with Darthirâe not actually participating herself, but acting only as a paton, buying information. She's doing this in all the port cities, the PCs could be the ones who actually find someone.
- The Voltrex library mission, trying to contact researchers and scholars from that island. No level limits. Low through high. No anticipated combat.
- A request for an audience with Fisterion. (sp?). Darthirâe has a contact who knows someone who can request this. (No set level limit, but likely some selectivity about extending invitations.)
- A medium level mission, to try to collect Unicorn Tears (flowers).
- A medium stealth mission to spy on the cult, both in their home territory, and potentially in the swamps, looking for a group of cultists that a higher level combat team could ambush and capture.
- A medium-high mission to Storans to see if there is a dragon hidden there, and if so, help him or her bolster their defenses. Maybe find out what they know.
- A medium-high mission to the Krondor Crypts to figure out what is happening there.
- A medium-high level group actually ambushing and capturing the cultists.
- A counterattack/assassination-attempt by the cult against some group of players known to be working against their interests, including, potentially Darthirâe.
Other things could not be scheduled until the results of the above become known.
Again, Darthirâe is fishing. As the GM, you tell me what bites.  | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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