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Welcome to the Layonara forums!

Layonara is so much more than a game. We started off as a tabletop Dungeons and Dragons campaign more than a decade ago. Since then we have developed into a fantasy world with as much compelling and engrossing detail as you will find anywhere.

Our current showcase is a Neverwinter Nights version of Layonara, where our world comes to life in a finely polished persistent world which you can play free of charge. These forums are set up to support and accentuate our player's experiences, but it goes far beyond that.

After years of passionate effort, our world is so well developed, so detailed, so refined that any of the handbooks, maps, historical accounts, legends, descriptions of artifacts, creature reports, character biographies, short stories, novels, movies and original art which populate these forums can surely serve as resources or inspiration for your own fantasy endeavors, whatever they may be. And our world is endlessly evolving, so resources are frequently added and updated.

There are also years of sage advice and commentary on role-playing, gaming and online community development stored in these forums. If camaraderie is what you seek, we offer that too. Our community is as active and supportive as you're likely to find on the internet. In short, these forums are a resource for you to use for whatever purpose or project brought you here.

We're confident that you will find what you are looking for, and likely, substantially more.

Please be our guest and browse around the forums which are available to you. As you do, keep in mind that you are sampling only a portion of what Layonara has to offer. Membership in our community is free, and allows you to establish a Layonara identity to pose your questions and share your thoughts on the forums. When you join you'll also be able to communicate privately to other members (PMs), establish and respond to polls, upload and download content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. So please. join our community today!
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Old 07-25-06, 03:31 PM #1
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I'm not gonna get into the details nor look for excuses...
I don't see my point as hollow, but I do see my way of expressing it was beyong boundaries of diplomacy.

Dorganath explained me the rudest of sentences in my thread, and I do apologize for it. I come from a server where average age is 17, with many people who barely reached the final years of school, so i had never imagined people here would be so much older. I myself am 18, probably one of the yougest[sp?] here, but one of the oldest there, so scenary here is pretty different, and I didn't adapt to it at first. What i meant in my last post, is that... i had never stoped to figure how my life would be at the age people seem to be here, and i though there'd be never time for a game. Once again, i never had an example, from family or friends, who carry this life, and i deemed it impossible. I'm sure now, it's not [and I do hope I can make the same, because playing this kind of thing is easily one of the best things in life =p].

I really don't think this is stupid or... irresponsable or... anything. I'm sorry for whatever bad impression i made it through my other thread, so i'm here apologizing. I do hope people don't carry grudges, and that we can have a better time in the future... both in and outgame. Hope the community and I can blend well in the coming months and years...
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Old 07-25-06, 03:35 PM #2
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Thank you for the apology. Just keep in mind what you are typing and how you are coming across. You should not try to force your style or your beliefs on others as every person is their own person and make their own decisions. Before hitting submit make sure you read things again and perhaps step away for 5-10 minutes at least so that you can think about things.
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Old 07-25-06, 06:39 PM #3
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Imagine yourself having time to play in the future, even with kids.

My son goes to bed every night at 7 and sleeps till about 6 a.m. So from 7 to 11ish, I'm free to play without guilt.

Some people with older children let them play the game with them (which is why our server is very very strict on mature topics and things like swearing).

Others only play when their kids are busy.

Some play and let thier kids watch and learn about online interaction.

It's very possible to play and not be neglectful parents. Being older doesn't mean that we gave any of our fun up . We just have to schedule it a bit more.
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Old 07-25-06, 07:06 PM #4
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Everyone has their own views of how to play a game. The best thing about this game is that it can be played nearly any reasonable way the player sees fit. It's a free service, with exisiting rules and guidelines that have worked long since before you arrived.

The very fact that you have the maturity to post an apology shows a good measure of the content of your character. But in response to your other posts; we're granted the ability to read over what we type, think deeper into what it could mean, and express our thoughts in a clear and concise manner. That's the wonder of the submit button.

Anyway, welcome to Layonara, bud.
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Old 07-25-06, 08:23 PM #5
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I don't get to play nearly as often as I would like, Kids, work and other things I LIKE to do with my family restrict the number of hours I'm able to log on for any meaningfull gaming, but I try to be a part of the community on the forums and such. Getting older doesn't mean you don't get to have any fun anymore, but you perspective slides a little bit. I still enjoy immersive gaming like Layonara for my own personal enjoyment, but it doesn't hold a candle to the expression on my sons face when he colors a picture and presents it to me proudly, or the time spent building model boats to go float on the pond near our house.

It's all about perspective and priorities, thanks for putting your previous post into a more mature perspective in your own mind, and being adult enough to acknowledge that your opinion might have been based on a less then whole understanding of what the scenario is.

elcome to Layonara, no grudges held here.

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Old 07-25-06, 08:54 PM #6
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I appreciate the understanding, I really do. But I believe that there will be long years ahead before i can manage my time that well... I believe this because even now, I've been unnable to do things as often as i'd like, or for as much long... But still, i do waste a lot of time, so who knows.

For these and other reasons, I don't feel even the slightest will to be a parent... but as one of you [and a whole lot more people in my life] said, perspective slides, and maybe I'll want to have kids later... that, i believe, only time will tell. Thinking deeper, the fact that people can manage their schedule this well makes me admire them... It's good to see it's possible.

For now, I'm happy this worked out, and will take the advice to think more about things before posting... and hope this doesn't happen again.

PS: Just as a side note, where do i request character deletion? [Please, don't delete it before i post it there]
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Old 07-25-06, 09:20 PM #7
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Character Deletion Requests is a thread sticked at the top of the approved characters forum. Give your bioware name, and the name of the character you need deleted and why, being specific if there is more than one copy.
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Old 07-26-06, 04:21 AM #8
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As a side note, if I had kids who were older than, say, 11, I'd probably actively encourage any interest they had in NWN or the roleplaying community as a whole, as I believe it encourages creativity and imagination. (And if they expressed an interest in module design, so much the better! )
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Old 07-26-06, 08:28 AM #9
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darkstorme - 7/26/2006 10:21 AM

As a side note, if I had kids who were older than, say, 11, I'd probably actively encourage any interest they had in NWN or the roleplaying community as a whole, as I believe it encourages creativity and imagination. (And if they expressed an interest in module design, so much the better! )
Boy, i've been trying endlessly to convince people there are inumerous reasons of playing a computer game, but no one believes me... it's good to see some understand it and is avaaiable to pass it to the next generation.

And thanks for the thread link ^^

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Old 07-26-06, 11:39 AM #10
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My kids go to bed, my wife watches TV, I really don't like TV, I read books and play Layo. During commercials she tells me about her day and other colorful anecdotes, during everything but intense combat I tell her about my day in RL and in Layo. When I was 18 I played pen and paper D&D almost everyday, after I finished my college homework *Ok not always after*
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Old 07-26-06, 06:29 PM #11
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I've got 3 little ones. The oldest is 7 and the youngest is 2. Time gets to be quite hard to manage sometimes. Real Life ALWAYS comes first. While it doesn't seem like you will work things out (I remember 18...wow...I feel really old now) in time, things will work themselves out.
Don't dispair, we all were where you're at...well, the majority of us anyway.
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Old 07-27-06, 01:13 AM #12
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Your not the youngest mate, to start off I'm 17 and lead many parties around Layonara and people are suprised by my age. But also I lead parties due to my character (A cleric, high wisdom, a bit of charisma and average intelligence). However there are some people as young as 9 that I have come across. So you get a whole age range here and it's great to sometimes have OOC conversations (By tells) with different age groups.

Myself, I love kids, I find them funny and don't mind if they get immature or naughty, I work with kids at my shop, Clarks, and have to fit shoes on some of the most stubbern and screaming kids! But I don't mind because I love to see their confused expressions on their faces saying "What in the world is on my feet, they are like bricks!" when it's their first shoes and stumble about. And I'm starting to find talking to them easier, they come out with the strangest things!

Can't wait to see you in game mate! I look forward to see how you RP!

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Old 07-27-06, 01:42 AM #13
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It's (in my opinion) almost impossible to tell the age of another person on internet. Especially in game (if you are going for the IC-chat only route).

And, would it shock you if I said I were 67 years old? Or, 13?

Because of this, "age" hasn't got any real meaning. Which also is one of the nicest things with the net. It doesn't matter if you are young or old, male or female, a living person or a bot ( )... Everyone's equal!

(Oh... by the way... I'm neither 67 or 13! :P )
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Old 07-27-06, 02:17 AM #14
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I think Im actually more impressed when someone goes AFK to ( check on the kids.....or help the wife)..... than when its to ( finish homework.......or help mum).
As Weeblie says.....I dont really care how old the player is.....its how they play their character that intrests me.

( 28....no kids.....Pam may as well be my wife though)
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Old 07-27-06, 03:26 AM #15
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Philosopher - 7/27/2006 4:13 AM Your not the youngest mate, to start off I'm 17 and lead many parties around Layonara and people are suprised by my age. But also I lead parties due to my character (A cleric, high wisdom, a bit of charisma and average intelligence). However there are some people as young as 9 that I have come across. So you get a whole age range here and it's great to sometimes have OOC conversations (By tells) with different age groups. Myself, I love kids, I find them funny and don't mind if they get immature or naughty, I work with kids at my shop, Clarks, and have to fit shoes on some of the most stubbern and screaming kids! But I don't mind because I love to see their confused expressions on their faces saying "What in the world is on my feet, they are like bricks!" when it's their first shoes and stumble about. And I'm starting to find talking to them easier, they come out with the strangest things! Can't wait to see you in game mate! I look forward to see how you RP! Edd.
The best ever was when Vy fell asleep at the keyboard and his son took the helm and drove "Mr. Gnome" around Hlint gathering "Paint Brushes" and Buckets without realizing that it wasn't the OC and that there were acctually other people in the game. And then Mith posted in grievances all upset that some gnome had run into the kitchen and stole his barley and buckets right off the bench in front of him. hehehe, that still cracks me up.

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Old 07-27-06, 03:43 AM #16
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Heheh, I almost fell from the chair laughing again reading about the little gnome and his crusade for paintbrushes.
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Old 07-27-06, 04:41 AM #17
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Try this for an AFK moment:
Set up: Wife was shopping and I had put the three kids (4 year old twin boys and their 3 year old brother) to bed for the night. I was looking forward to a long night of Layo with Gulnyr and the return of Vyris. Jennara, Berdin, and Klaug were just about to set off when I hear three different voices yelling, “DADDY!” So I sigh and send the “//AFK” and run upstairs to see what was going on. Turns out:
<ul>[*]Twin #1 had a #2 accident in his pajamas.[*]Twin #2 said he was going to throw up.[*]Three year old wanted me to rock him back to sleep.[/list]So after a clean set of pajamas, a bucket to throw up in, and rocking chair, I finally got the three to sleep. It might have been ten minutes, it might have been a half an hour, I don’t recall. But I get back to the game and Jennara and Berdin had decided that Klaug needed time to prepare so they went on their own for a while. The three eventually met up and had a grand time (although Klaug lost a Soul Strand that night--maybe the kids were trying to tell me something).
<font face="verdana,geneva" size="2"> Point is, you can try to prepare for a gaming session all you want but sometimes unexpected things happen, whether it is kids crying or internet issues or falling asleep at the keyboard. This is a game and real life ALWAYS comes first. Most, if not all, of the players here understand that.
A final note: twin #2 never did throw up, thank goodness!

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Old 07-27-06, 05:00 AM #18
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Oh, and you just might find, as I do, that RPing in a fantasy setting like Layo is a much needed break from reality (see my post above). Talk about stress relief.
Boss on your case: Take out some giants in Saudiria.
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