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Old 12-03-06, 10:14 AM #1
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As you may know, the writer team and myself are typing away on the next installment of the Handbook.
To prepare you a bit, and make your mouth water with all the lore and information goodness that will be coming your way, I will now post some teaser texts every couple of days.
We are expanding/updating all deities, and here's a piece from the Church of Grand (written by Honora). Enjoy the read!
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Grand’s church has started to solidify in the third generation of the world. For decades the worship of Grand existed with the ancestor worship of the orcs, neither supplanting the other and often in conflict.
Around 1390 however, the son of a powerful clan leader named Jukha Marrowcruncher saw an opportunity to make changes. His tribe, several thousand strong living in and around the base of the Berhagen mountains, was in conflict over religious issues. Those that followed Grand insisted only Grand was worthy of worship. However, most of the tribe still worshipped their strongest ancestors.
Jukha seized power with a stroke of brilliance. Smarter than most of his kind by half, he had learned a fair bit of shamanism while still a pug from his grandfather; his grandfather also set him on the path to worship Grand. He practiced the art of enchanting with the spells his god gave him and continued his shaman path to adulthood.
On a hot day in the middle of Girding, he carefully placed a great number of powerfully enchanted simple items on and around a platform. He then called the tribe to a meeting in his father’s name. Using the enchanted items in a spectacular display of fireworks, halos of light and bloody death for both the two loudest ancestor worshippers and the single most insistent Grand follower, he manufactured an “epiphany” regarding Grand.
Neither side was right, he said; instead, both were. Grand wished for the clans to worship their ancestors, for the ancestors who were the strongest and took the most enemies (and the most dwarven lives) were blessed of Grand and by venerating them they paid homage to their god.
Later that same evening, the remaining leaders of the ancestor worshippers and three more of the Grand followers who had cried foul disappeared. In one blood-filled day he began to knit the two sides.
Grand was impressed by the cleverness of this upstart and did not smite him for his creativity. Thus the modern Church of Grand was born.
Jukha cemented his position by defeating a powerful priest of Dorand and severing his head with an axe he had made and enchanted. With the head presented to the tribe as proof of Grand’s power, he seized control of the fledgling Church. Grand looked upon his ambitious shaman with favor, and Jukha has been in control of the official Church ever since. He has lain down some edicts, renamed himself Nro Trhahphako (The Dwarfbane) in honor of his god, sent out war parties to “convert” other tribes, and gathered power to protect himself from the younger shaman who would remove him.
Several years after Blood’s demise, he has “converted” many of Mistone’s orc tribes, and now looks to Dregar with hungry eyes.
First Edict: “Kogoh gha' kharo u tuk-baho trhah granr kut uh Khhakt gbahhg 'uh kng uknu zuht ohahnr.” (Never say name of dog-pile dwarf smith god or Grand spills your guts onto cold earth).
Second Edict: “Gnakgakk zhhan-rhanakk trhahgog tao uk haro!” (Stinking craft-mating dwarves die on axe; a more genteel translation would be “Suffer no follower of He-That-Is-Not-To-Be-Named to live, and death must be by axe” ).
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Old 12-03-06, 10:22 AM #2
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Oh my! More lore to digest......You and the writers team are my hero! I have honestly been waiting for more LORE and information. If this is just the tip of the ice berg this is great! Keep up the good work.
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It is
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Oh Believe him. It is.
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It just keeps getting better and better....I am really looking forward to it.
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As am I. Tell Honora that was very well written
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"Suffer not to let the dwarf live" mentality... I love it
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Honora is my new hero, spent an hour at work today reading all her CDTs. Do yourselves a favour if you want to be inspired and do the same!

PS. Actually Honora -WAS- my hero until I read her post about real-life alignment ... now i'm a little frightened ... *backs away, smiling politely and avoiding eye contact*
PPS. Can't wait for Version 3, Ed, your teasers are doing as intended!
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Allright, as things are received well , here's a piece of Az'atta, written by LynnJuniper.
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Hierarchy

The hierarchy of Az’atta’s clergy is fairly straightforward. All of her clerics are considered equals with one another, with the exception of her two most favored clerics, who receive the title of Handmaiden. These two clerics are the leaders of her faith, and informally share power. One of the two typically supervises the temples and their faithful, while the other watches over and assists the traveling clerics.
Each temple’s resident clergy select the most qualified priest or priestess to make the day-to-day decisions at that individual temple, and they look to this cleric for guidance and direction.
Otherwise, while older and more experienced clergy are normally looked up to and well respected by younger priests and priestesses, there is no other formal rank structure.





At the head of Az’atta’s church, just as it was in the beginning, stand two of Az’atta’s most favored handmaidens. One of these handmaidens, the one that stands at Az’atta’s left is declared as The Maiden of the Sanctuary. The one at her right The Maiden of Meandering.
The current Maiden of Meandering is Xhyfa An’ Dalian, a Dark Elf, and the current Maiden of Sanctuary is Kaphie Dal’chosa, a half Elven woman.


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After the death and ascension of their Goddess, Shiyle Rilyn’tlar, and Irae’ica Xyra’lyl began to formally organize the church of Az’atta. They attempted to set up an extensive council of priests and clergy members, but in the end each of their four attempts at formal organization failed. The two handmaidens grew desperate, and old in age, in their final years even, something quite amazing happened. Two young Dark Elf followers awoke one night, claiming to have had an extraordinarily realistic dream.
It was as if they had lived the life of Shiyle and Irae’ica through their very own eyes. The clergy would have considered it a fluke if they had not all had similar dreams themselves. Each and every priest and priestess had had this dream, in which they watched the lives of the handmaidens, the dream ending with two young Dark Elf women, standing in the place of Shiyle and Irae’ica. This was declared a sign from above. Az’atta had stated how the church would be run; the same as ever, with two handmaidens overseeing the rest of the clergy.
This dream became known as The Dream of Ordinance, where two cleric women (usually but not always limited to those of Dark Elf descent) are called upon to act as Az’atta’s next handmaidens.
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Ever wanted to know why people speak Common? Here's its history, by merlin34baseball.
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The Common language was born with the first traders. Some time around 5000 B.C. (before cataclysm), shortly after many of their dragon masters had perished, the humanoid races began interacting more and trade soon followed. The Common language started as hand gestures, as simple as pointing out trade goods and counting with fingers to express value and prices. But even these simple gestures helped to intermingle the races.

The race wars during these early times contributed as well. Scouts and spies served to further the language as they passed information back and forth. Negotiations between leaders often involved bits and pieces of the Common tongue.

As trade expanded and became more common place, a set of common words began to develop between traders of different races. Frequently these words were combinations and bastardizations of several, some times even three or four tongues. As traders traveled these new common words traveled, spreading across lands, and races.

As trade markets grew, more and more individuals were exposed to the Common language. In the trade market stalls foreign traders interacted with the commoners spreading the language even more. The small child sent to the market to purchase things for their mother began to learn the Common phrases used by the merchants.

The words of the Common language are marked by certain languages holding sway over certain portions of Common. Ores and minerals frequently have a gnomish or dwarven sound to them. Words associated with forests, animals and magic have a great tie in with elvish. Weapons frequently have a tinge of the dialect that invented them and used them the most. The terms for food items frequently contained bits of the dialect from where the goods were harvested.

Religious words developed along the same lines. As people of faith traveled the lands looking for converts they spread the language of their gods and goddesses to others. Words revolving around a diety contain many words that are similar to the native language that the majority of their followers used. Other races picked up these words and phrases through the teachings of the clerics and monks of the land.

Bards also helped spread the Common language. Frequently traveling with missionaries or traders they picked up the Common language as well. Spreading its knowledge through their plays and poems in the taverns, markets and at religious sites.

The language was finally codified, written down, at the command of Raklin "The True" Diamionar around the year 500 A.C. (after cataclysm). As trade grew, and the world seemed to grow smaller, he realized the need to teach his subjects the Common language. Scribes spent better than ten years traveling and compiling the different words and fixing them into one uniform text. Raklin then had the scribes put to work publishing thousands of text books that were distributed to the temples, monasteries, commoners, and schools across the land.

The finalized language became the most spoken one in the world. Legal matters, warfare, romance, trials, and most business matters became spoken in the Common tongue, especially when conducted between peoples of different races.

The old languages still were spoken at home and in their natural lands, being treasured by their peoples, but when venturing forth, most learned the Common tongue before setting out. Some of the less linguistically skilled mastered only a few words, but they were the words they needed to survive.
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What can I say? My hat is off to the writers....an excellent job, all of you!

I have read, written, and edited quite a lot in my (quasi)career, and I speak with honesty when I say that these entries are as professional as any that I have seen

*wrinkles his nose*

I'm entitled to a little jealousy, I think

Great job, all.
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*applauds* oh what would Daniel say...I know.. "Good show!"

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Nice writings. How about something about dwarves now *thumbs up*
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First Edict: “Kogoh gha' kharo u tuk-baho trhah granr kut uh Khhakt gbahhg 'uh kng uknu zuht ohahnr.” (Never say name of dog-pile dwarf smith god or Grand spills your guts onto cold earth).

Second Edict: “Gnakgakk zhhan-rhanakk trhahgog tao uk haro!” (Stinking craft-mating dwarves die on axe; a more genteel translation would be “Suffer no follower of He-That-Is-Not-To-Be-Named to live, and death must be by axe” ).
Plenty of stuff about dwarves!
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Yes yes, but from another point of view, perhaps
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Here's a piece from the upcoming Shadon write-up, by Schmack

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It was long thought that when Shadon was a mortal being, hewas a young, childish gnome lad, whose life was cut short for some reason or another, and for reasons only the gods know, he ascended to the heavens to take his place as a deity.

This was accepted by most, explaining reasonably most of Shadon’s more narrow-minded views, which tend to revolve around the needs of the individual, rather than the collective. It also explained to most why one of Shadon’ teachings is that life is fleeting, as they believed Shadon himself had lived a short life as a mortal, and so taught his followers to make the most of their time, lest it be cut short.

But this changed later on, between the years of 432 and 438, when a gnome by the name of Frorric Frigsdergen began traveling to towns and cities all over the more civilized continents of Layonara. Frorric claimed to be descended from Shadon himself, and that Shadon was not in fact a young gnome lad at all. His claim was that Shadon was actually a very elderly gnome as a mortal, nearly four hundred years old, far older than the average gnomes’ lifespan. Frorric thought that Shadon, as a mortal, had not been able to experience all he had wanted to, and when he had ascended to godhood decided to do his best to make sure others were able to experience that which he had not.

Frorric traveled over Layonara, telling people of his views on Shadon, and trying to convince them that his view better explained Shadon’s views and beliefs. Most scholars did not then, and many do not this day, believe his words at all, thinking him slightly mad. Followers of Shadon were skeptical at first also, but the majority eventually came to agree with him, most likely influenced by Frorric’s knack for acquiring alcoholic drinks, which he was all too happy to share with all.
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