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09-09-06, 12:14 AM
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#1 | | Orc of the Black Hand Join Date: Jul 2006
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| Garent - How old IS he? Seriously, how long has he been around? Was there ever a different Captain? | | |
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#2 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Mill, South Carolina
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? Hmm... I'd say at least fourty years in game time.
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09-09-06, 03:10 AM
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#3 | | Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? I'm just going to say that he is a really fat elf that had an ear accident. Cause its been way past 40 years for him.
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09-09-06, 03:35 AM
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#4 | | Beholder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England
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| RE: Garent - How old IS he? lol poor guy hes been walking up and down that path for so many years.....
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09-09-06, 04:15 AM
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#5 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Mill, South Carolina
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? I propose we retire Garent. Put him in the history books as have a super-human longevity but eventually choaking on a chicken bone and dying and move on. 
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09-09-06, 04:17 AM
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#6 | | Gamemaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sweden
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? That's why poor old Garent was hiding behind the kitchen table when the demons were there... 
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09-09-06, 04:23 AM
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#7 | | Beholder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? Quote:
ZeroVega - 9/9/2006 3:15 PM I propose we retire Garent. Put him in the history books as have a super-human longevity but eventually choaking on a chicken bone and dying and move on. | lol so harsh, i propose that erag kidnaps him and we must quest to recue him :P
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09-09-06, 04:49 AM
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#8 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: behind my comp
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? Quote:
crazedgoblin - 9/9/2006 4:23 PM Quote:
ZeroVega - 9/9/2006 3:15 PM I propose we retire Garent. Put him in the history books as have a super-human longevity but eventually choaking on a chicken bone and dying and move on. | Â
lol so harsh, i propose that erag kidnaps him and we must quest to recue him :P
| Hehehehe...the way people around here go to work with resques ,that would have the same endresult i think 
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09-09-06, 04:50 AM
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#9 | | World Leader Join Date: Jul 2005
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? Bah... I had a whole "let's make our NPCs actually mortal instead of for some reason being granted the gift of eternal youth" renovation plan, but alas. Garent and the Postmaster can be in the cardroom bickering old-man style over Go Fish, Johan opened up a leather shop for his son to manage and sell tailored goods from... It came to me in a detailed vision!
It's something in the Hlint water, I guess. And you thought it was the bindstones this whole time! | | |
09-09-06, 05:31 AM
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#10 | | World Creator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oakhurst, Ca.
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? All (likely 95%+) NPC's will be 'retired' when we move foward. The problem with this is manpower. Yeah I know, how long and difficult would it be? Individually not long or difficult at all but with all of the other stuff going on (wait till you see the next update--and you all know about the previous ones) with the module, teams, quests, side projects, then RL we have a difficult time getting to the NPC's.
They are working right now so we don't mess with them too much as we concentrate on new features or things that are not working.
I do understand (and appreciate) the question and thread...just so much we can do with limited time. We will get to changing them out though. | | |
09-09-06, 06:31 AM
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#11 | | Mind Flayer Join Date: Jan 2004
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? I don't see them as any sort of problem, unless you really and deeply RP such depth about the passage of time. That, in any case, makes Matilda about 60ish. Old, for a Paladin. | | |
09-09-06, 06:48 AM
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? Quote:
Eight-Bit - 9/9/2006 9:31 AM
I don't see them as any sort of problem, unless you really and deeply RP such depth about the passage of time. That, in any case, makes Matilda about 60ish. Old, for a Paladin.
| You don't have to deeply count every hour, as the smaller the time increment, the more it is inadequate to use when you're actually playing... But with larger increments, the years and decades, when we have specific events it's different. When I can say, "My character was 23 when she was summoned and is now 40, but this character was 32 when mine was summoned and is still only 33" ...it makes little sense. We're for roleplay and immersion, but add very funky time stretches and gaps and warps, despite there now being a clear way to check the Layodate at any given time, with a list of landmark events that have happened throughout it.
"We play dynamic characters in a dynamic world!" with the history to show that, but many characters, player or otherwise, change only in levels or classes but live in a static isolated time bubble from the rest of the world. "I participated in this huge thing 50 years ago, but I'm only 32!"
I'm not trying to force anyone to be decrepit or anything, I just don't see how far we can fudge the age if we still want them to be a part of the history. I think it is better to make excuses for how well they are doing (such as it being a side effect of the bindstones and being constantly remade, which I feel is perfectly valid, though rough on the soul) rather than trying to change established and updated numbers.
The simplest answer is usually the best answer, and trying to come up with some weird reason why your character went back and forth through time or certain events happened at completely different dates than for the rest of the world, or is living suspended in time 20 years ago, isn't simple. It is much simpler to find ways for them to have weathered it and excuses for them to be still capable... these things affect only your character, rather than decide things for the world.  | | |
09-09-06, 07:13 AM
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#13 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Mill, South Carolina
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? I highly doubt anyone who plays on Layo for more than a year will give you a hard time about having a fourty or fifty year old fighter swinging a 12lb greatsword in 50lb fullplate armor... not when their 30-something year old is dual weilding 8lb longswords in the same armor. 
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09-09-06, 07:39 AM
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#14 | | Gamemaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sweden
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? Ooooh!
*Snaps his fingers.*
I just found a completely valid reason for Alleina to call (almost) everyone old! 
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09-09-06, 09:30 AM
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#15 | | Orc of the Black Hand Join Date: Jul 2006
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Pankoki - 9/9/2006 2:10 AM I'm just going to say that he is a really fat elf that had an ear accident. Cause its been way past 40 years for him. | MUHAHAHA!! I like this explanation. *Grins.* | | |
09-09-06, 09:40 AM
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#16 | | Adamantium Golem Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Void
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| RE: Garent - How old IS he? poor NPC's, we should start a retirement home, and the reason garent keeps walking up and down the path: he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored so he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored so he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored so he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored so he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored so he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored so he was speaking to the quatermaster and agreed to the goblin ears quest for something to do (it's not all mile a minute fun), when he reached the gate he forgot why he was there, he felt bored etc. forever and ever and ever!!!!!
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09-09-06, 11:26 AM
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#17 | | Beholder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Earth
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? *grins* I figured out Jser is actually in his 50s now, and was considering trying to get his hair changed to gray and have him limp all over the place, but then I relized he's a half elf.
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09-09-06, 11:35 AM
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#18 | | Lich Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Iowa
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| Re: Garent - How old IS he? At one time I was getting hung up on how old Enzo should be according to game time... but I shrugeed it off for the most part and play him as I see fit. Not as a senoir citizen....
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09-09-06, 11:49 AM
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#19 | | Beholder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England
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| RE: Garent - How old IS he? what about erag, is he brewing an imortality potion with his dark soul essences?
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