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Cinnabar

Eschew Materials II
« on: October 16, 2009, 06:46:50 pm »
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Prerequisite: Spell Caster, Ability to cast 6th level spells


As Wizards are unable to cast any 6th level spells until Level 11 (per the Base Spells per Day Table In LORE), does this mean that the Eschew Materials II Feat, when taken as a Wizard Bonus Feat,

[INDENT]a) cannot be taken at Level 10?
b) can be taken at level 10, but will not have any effect until Level 11?
or c) can be taken at Level 10, and will be effective for spell levels 4+ that can be cast at that time?[/INDENT]

Clearly I'm confused, unless the prerequisite is simply Int 16+ for Wizards, as their 'ability' to cast 6th level spells.
 

Dorganath

Re: Eschew Materials II
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 06:54:10 pm »
It cannot be taken until the caster has the ability (based on class levels) to cast level 6 spells.  So yes, because of Wizard progression, this may well mean that there is a level where the Wizard can cast a level 6 spell and when he is given the opportunity to choose a feat.

It takes more than just an appropriate INT bonus.
 

Acacea

Re: Eschew Materials II
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 06:55:00 pm »
It's just as the description says - ability to cast 6th level spells. If that is at level 11, then you cannot take it until level 11. It doesn't matter if you have a bonus feat before that, if you can't yet cast level 6 spells. You can't take an Eschew feat until you can cast the max level of spells to be eschewed (ie 3rd for Eschew 1).

(Ninja'd by Dorg)
 

Cinnabar

Re: Eschew Materials II
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2009, 06:57:41 pm »
Many thanks to both Dorg and Acacea.
 

Thunder Pants

Re: Eschew Materials II
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2009, 08:08:36 pm »
just to clarify further, since Wizards don't get a feat at level 11, the earliest that eschew 2 can be taken for both wizards and sorcerers is level 12 (that's character level 12, you can take it if your a level 11 wizard and level 1 something else)
 

 

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