Why do you not support Layonara financially?

[Eight-Bit]

During my time playing Layonara I went from a highschool student without a job, to a college student with a terrible job and a needy girlfriend, to a college student with a well-paying job and rent and an electric bill along with food and everything else.

If I had extra, I'd donate it. When I have extra, my car knows it is about time it can squeeze some new parts out of me by breaking itself.

[Jilseponie Wyndon]

Funds are just too tight, there are times I rob peter to pay paul, then rob mary to pay peter ... it just goes round and round. Been looking for something better, but the job market is swamped.

[ZeroVega]

I'm in the same boat as a lot of other people. High School student. Jobless. My family is in a tight situation financially (just bought a house, need a third car, sister's in college, I'm heading off next year ect.).

I think the big thing is people are kinda sketchy about pure donating. Obviously if you were allowed to (which I believe you're not) and did start charging to play Layonara, people would fork it over. Layonara is something worth paying for, but since it's free already people (including me, even though I don't play any more) have a hard time forking out money for something they don't technically need to pay for.

For me, I plan on taking a dollar out of my wallet every now and again and hiding it away. I'll come back to it in a month or so and see what's accumulated and donate it or buy something from the Layo store. It's just one of those things. "Do I really need that Vault? No. Hide the dollar before I change my mind!"

As for the shop, I would totally buy a stick figure t-shirt (like those ones that Milo used to make) with a funny quote attached. Or a shirt with the quote, "heh: let the world know you're slightly amused." People like funny stuff... make funny stuff, people will buy it. That is all.

...I just saw all of the shirts... I'm in heaven... (Still, stick figures would be schweet as well... but yeah...)

[DiegoBastet]

I don't donate because, well, it would not make that much a difference, basicaly...

Well, okay, I could donate SOMETHING, and help, like the little bird on the forest catching fire. I think that every, don't know, five dollars that you could spend buying yourself some milkshake is worth, or something like that. Since I don't like to spend my hard earned money, I don't buy milkshakes, by the very way.

I have the age to own a credit card, indeed, and I don't know why the hell I don't have one. Anyway, I could always give my father the money and donate it. But this thing of pay-pal is strange. Why no simply a bank account? I could donate every month in this way... It would be so much more simple...

Aaaaand, there is the thing that I'm a college student of the public system, that came from the public schools, and I'm not in the upper-middle class, blah blah blah. All that thing. Anyway I study and work on two jobs (that's why I have so little time to play =/) and all that thing, and I have some money that I don't use every month (no milkshakes makes miracles on that. Believe me!), and I could well donate it.

But there is the original thing: Will that make any difference? Of my R$ 50,00 savings a month, I could well donate 10, 15, maybe 20 a month, and even if I don't play more than SIX times a month, I would happily do that. But the Real - Dollar stuff is somewhat around US$ 1,00 = R$ 2,05 or something like that... (Include that ALL the going IN, going OUT - importing - exporting money stuff that comes with Pay-Pal, and ta-da! Nothing!).

In the case of a bank account, it would be easier, but: Would my 5, maybe 10 dollars a month make any difference?

[EdTheKet]

Would my 5, maybe 10 dollars a month make any difference?

Well, if 100 people donate $5 a month, we'd be nearly all clear on the server costs!

[ShiffDrgnhrt]

hey, id donate everymonth if I coudld

[DiegoBastet]

That said, Ed, I will soon start my five dollars donation.

...like the little bird on the forest catching fire...

[Fatherchaos]

It would appear I can now respond to this thread as I've had to revoke my scheduled monthly payments

The reason I no longer support layo financially is that I've had to contract all un-necessary transactions to support my motorcycle habit. Needless to say I found that I was dumping about 300$ a month into frivolous items and other entertainments - eve online, layo, cable, etc.

Cutting all those costs allowed me to continue living normally with the added benefit of a new motorcycle

[Trace Nightwind]

I think it would help sales to have the logo small and on the front of the gear and the big picture on the back.

[Hellblazer]

As soon as I can find a new job. I will be donating here big time to keep this running.

[Vendar]

I just joined the world of Layonara and I'm happy to donate a small amount to help the game world going. I have played other MMOs in the past (WOW, COH) and although fun for a time, there is no roleplay at all! Even on the so-called "roleplay" servers. I paid up to $15 USD a month just to play on those worlds that were not nearly as fulfilling to roleplay on as the first few days in Layonara. As long as I'm here, I plan on making a monthly contribution.

[Chazzler]

Good news, I managed to make a deal with my friend who actually has a Working Paypal account, so I can donate up to 20EUR per month for the monthly costs as of now, that makes roughly a $30. Cheers!

~Timo

[zenvidar]

I'd like to purchase some things from the store soon. I was hoping for an increase in merchandise and types of merchandise soon. I found a Katia shirt I really like, which I'm gonna buy soon.

Suggestion: We hold an official forum which has a weekly/biweekly/monthly brainstorm of merchandise ideas by the community, and the team can pick some every so often that they really like.

We made up some fun one-liners in the "bumper-sticker" thread in the suggestions category which I feel should be recycled as ideas for t-shirts.

Ideas such as "My Dwarven Defender beat up your honor student!" and "My monk gets better mileage than your car" or "My monk gets around even more than your girlfriend" would be fun additions to a t-shirt.

I think this one would be popular: "Crafting, my anti-drug". Have the layonara logo on the back, or on the front with the text on the back.

"I defeated the Red Light Goblin chieftan and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."
"Halfling women do it from below"

A lot of little NWN/layonara jokes would be great additions to the humor section of t-shirts or on coffee mugs, mousepads, etc.

Some of those ideas may be a little suggestive, but as long as nothing is very blatantly offensive it might be fine to have on a t-shirt and could be placed within a higher content rating category on the shop site.

[darkstorme]

While suggestions are always welcome, bear in mind that:

1. Layonara merchandise reflects on Layonara, both present and future, and is chosen with that in mind, and...
2. It takes time to plan out a t-shirt design, even simple text, arrange it with the distributor, and so forth. It might even possibly...
3. Take money - which would need to see more sales to recoup.

While I don't personally have a hand in the Layonara store (though I think I'll order something soon, cross-border duties be darned), from previous discussions these have all been items of consideration when choosing new phrases to stick on t-shirts and whatnot.

The problem I can personally see with sophomoric humour (see: "My _____ gets around more than your girlfriend!", etc.) is that it may reflect poorly on Layonara as a serious gaming site for all demographics. I don't know what those in charge of DogmaWear and the like think on the matter, but that's my two coppers.

[zenvidar]

I agree with you on that. Certain phrases like that could pose a few problems, but my brain was creating profitable ideas.

Those kind of phrases sell, so they should be listed merely as a jumping point for less provocative material that can have the same oomph.

[Chazzler]

Donated $25 from my Own paypal account (yeah, got it working, whoohoo!)

~Timo