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Old 01-26-07, 01:15 PM #1
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Servant of the Lifegiver?
Hate shedding blood as much as I do?
Wouldn't it be better if someone devised an alchemical solution that weakened those foes that we couldn't persuade with gentle words to put aside their evil ways?

Friends, look no further!

Arkolio, lover of peace, has been hard at work!

I have, currently in stock, a number of solutions that may be placed on your weapon (yes, it pains me to use the 'w' word) that will weaken an opponent. Long have I wrestled with the morality of using such distillations in unavoidable combat but, after talking with priests and priestesses of the Lifegiver, now believe I have no choice but to offer this service. These solutions, in the sad event of dreaded battle, will weaken an opponent, hopefully to such a extent where they retire from the fray before one is forced into the tragedy of ending their life.

Surely a few true is not too great a price to pay for furthering the work of the Lord of Light?

Do your part, help prevent avoidable death and seek Arkolio de'Averlain in Hlint and surrounds.
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Poison is poison; I agree with the thought behind it, but don't spin words to twist people's morality

*The note is unsigned.*
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Anonymity, the tool of the craven. I am willing to stand up for what is right and talk about and promote the great good that can be derived from usage of these solutions. Solutions, toxins, venoms, poisons, call them what you will - people's morality is determined by the truth they perceive within their own soul. I cannot, nor would even try, to change this fundamental core understanding of right and wrong that guides those that profess to love peace. My product works and is decidedly less lethal than a battleaxe, crossbow or mace.
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The word of the life giver is to respect all life, to not harm or kill aimlessly, using the poison as an excuse is only promoting the possiblity for more violence.
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[b][i]Had you truly spoken with a priest or priestess of the Lifegiver, you would have been aware of that Aeridin is also standing for promotion of health and not only "make people stay alive".

Herbs used for curing all sort of illnesses are usually a sort of poison by themselves. A too high dose of some of them can be as deadly as a sword through one's heart.

It's the way they are used that gives them the "poison" or the "antidote" stamps on them.

Your note have a sarcastic tone in it and surely doesn't follow the spirit of the teaching of Aeridin.

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Dear Miss Alleina,

Beware the sins of pride and arrogance.

Yours is but one interpretation of the Lore of the Lifegiver. I have another. I am not so arrogant as to seek to impose my will on others nor believe that my view is beyond interpretative challenge, mayhaps you should be mindful of the same.

My studies of the word of Aeridin surround the ways and means of best serving the continuation of the Great Cycle. I believe that, though not ideal, a carefully measured dose of distilled toxin that induces a debilitating nausea in a foe during unavoidable combat is not nearly as disruptive of the cycle as a sword through their heart! Maybe you have been purchasing your distillations from a less careful distributor of such than myself?

As to your accusation of sarcasm? My understanding of the word denotes a form of address that is marked by the use of language intended to make a victim the butt of contempt or ridicule. I am perplexed as to how I am guilty of such a charge nor how a written note has a 'tone? Mayhaps you should re-read my original advertisement with a less cynical and world-weary eye? Additionally, your aspersions on my character and intentions may be a little more cutting if they didn't come from a member of one of the largest purveyors of weaponry on Mistone!

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PS. Don't forget to ask about my crazy, low, low prices!
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This is a delicate subject to write about, espically in a public manner. Poison is, and always shall be, a taboo subject in the civilized world. It is a toxin, and one that opon entering the body is able to cause horrific malady and a slow and suffering death.

There are people out there whose intentions are not as apparantly noble as your's, and will quite frankly take advantage of your offer. Inexpensive and availiable poions? The very people I toil day in and out to keep from entering Hlint thrive on just such weapons. I say weapons, yes, in the most literal of senses. Poison is a weapon, as much so as the dagger that is coated by it, and sole intention is to harm those who are introduced to it.

I will be watching you now, but do not be afraid, it is for your own saftey. As you are in Hlint you can now expect dangers from both sides - the citizens and those who would use your poisons for nefarious deeds. You have unintentionally placed yourself into great danger and I can only hope and pray that you will cease to offer such things. The blood is as much on the hands of the extractor as it is on the murderer's in my eyes.

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Dear Arkolio de'Averlain,

You are of course free to read the Words of Aeridin in whatever way you wish to, but knowest that your current view isn’t representative for His church. I feel it is my duty as one of His priestesses to correct people who twist His words so that the original intention set forth by Him risks getting lost.

The message of a note is communicated not only by the words themselves, but also the choice and placement of the exact words. A simple thing like a phrase of greeting can be written in uncountable different ways, all of them having their own “feel”. It is important to, as some people call it, read between the lines to get the “tone” of a note.

I first found it very peculiar how it comes that you made no attempt to hide the one in yours, as I believe by the time of fastening your note, you were all aware of that some of His followers surely would respond to it. But after reading your question about the “tone”, it is obvious that either you truly can’t feel it or, more probable, that you are actually not making any real effort to sell anything, but rather to have some “fun”.

The more I think about it, the more I believe my last conclusion is right. A simple word to refresh your memory of a previous event: “Bear”

I’m not proud of that the Trade Company is selling weapons, and if it was my decision alone, I surely would drop that particular part. Often my view differs completely from the ones of the other members, which is rather understandable. But I remain as a member, as I believe even though my influence of the affairs is very limited, it is better than nothing at all.

Lastly, I kindly ask you to differ between following His teachings in a way of your own and takings parts of His teachings out of contest for a greater personal gain.

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// *Laughs.* This market-thread has turned to a more theological discussion than an attempt to get something sold! Should be in one of the Inn-forums instead!
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Matilda & Alleina,

I understand and empathise with your valid concerns. I do understand that in the past, sadly, those who have conducted a similar service to that which I offer have had evil and immoral intent. Please believe that I intend to conform to a conduct accepted and established as consistent with principles of community-wide and social ethics. I try not to judge someone by another's actions.

It is true that some venoms may be distilled with a degree of toxicity that could potentially be lethal. The thought of such falling into the hands of those nefarious types that you endeavour to keep out of Hlint fills me with dread. I will be wary of anyone attempting to purchase such virulent distillations (that I most diligently avoid) from me and report them to your vigilant attention most promptly.

It is my sincere hope that you can look beyond unfair generalisations brought about by past experience and treat those that seek to promote this less lethal recourse in times of danger a modicum of respect and understanding.

Matilda, I am truly touched by your concerns for my well-being. I am comforted by my certainty that those possessed of pure heart are looked upon favourably by the Gods and attempted harm to their personage may well be ... harmful to those that approach with aggressive intent.

Arkolio de'Averlain

// *giggles* Hey, what's the expression about any publicity being good publicity!??! The more someone responds, thus dragging Ark's advert to the front of the noticeboard, the greater the number of people that see it!
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*In the same distinctive, angular hand as before...*

The more common poisons aren't meant to be lethal, merely to make a given target weaker or more frail, so that they are easier to kill through conventional means. Rarely will a thoroughly-weakened goblin, for example, turn tail and run. Or an ogre. Or an orc. The list goes on.

I do not oppose poison use in general; it is merely another weapon to use. But never mistake that it is a weapon as surely as a morningstar or longsword.

The gods may watch over some, but those good people who are smiled upon merely for being good are few enough and far enough between that you are more likely to be eaten by a Baalor in Hlint than be saved from an angry mob by the grace of some deity.

I grow tired of finding these advertisements.
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Dear Sir/Madam,

I have read the notes left me from Matilda and Alleina and believe they were written from a perspective of love and caring that seeks to inform my potential customers of differing viewpoints on the morality of using my products. As such, I hope I have been able to receive and respond to their words with due consideration and respect.

As to yourself ... forgive me but I fail to see if you had a point, question, statement or other reason to deface my advertisement. I am reminded of a child who so desperately wants to contribute to the converse of adults. They jump up and down and shout 'look at me, look at me!' and when the grown-ups do finally look, it is but to realise that it was only the nonsensical ramblings of a child that were being offered anyway.

My mother, a wise woman, once said, 'Ark, it's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it.' Maybe you should meet her.
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*Once again, Pyyran begins to pen a note... But then shakes his head, a wry chuckle springing from his lips, and removes the whole string of replies, and the original advertisement. In the ad's place, he leaves a somewhat-small note.*

Arkolio de'Averlain:

If I merely wanted to deface advertisements for poison, I could scribble the symbol of Toran over it, and watch what happened.

You'll find that any further notices of that kind will have trouble staying attached to the board.


Again, it is unsigned, but to those who know the hand, it is rather obvious who penned the note.
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*Indignantly, Ark seeks approval from the local authorities (// L) before reattaching the original advertisement*

// Stephen, no 'forced-emotes' of removing someone else's advertisement please.
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//How can someone stop a character from tearing down a paper when they're not around? If Ark's willing to stake it out, and actually approach him as he does so, by all means, but when there's noone to stop him... Och.//

*On a late-night visit to the boards, laden with freshly-brewed drinks, Pyyran finds the new advertisement, and tears that one, too, down.*
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//OOC Edited. I have no stake in this and as such should not wiggle my opinion where they are not solicitied.
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*With a sigh, Arkolio re-attaches original notice and pens a small addition*

The powers that be (// Leanthar) have forbidden unauthorised removal of this notice. Freedom of speech is still a right enjoyed by the citizens who make use of this hall.

*A guard whose massive thews and unparalleled martial skills are matched only by his capacity for ever-vigilant watchfulness maintains a wary eye for further attempts to remove this notice*
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I'll take what you have in stock. I will find you.

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