Use of Draconic Language

[Script Wrecked]

Blood has [POST=1303522]nothing[/POST] to do with being a Red Dragon Disciple in Layonara, *cough* despite what is written in Lore *cough*.

[Dorganath]

From the same thread: *quotes self*

http://forums.layonara.com/ask-gamemaster/228762-quest-dragons-disciple.html#post1303572

[miltonyorkcastle]

Um, yeah, sorry about the confusion on the LORE page- we are actually working on new write-ups for all the classes that make more sense with regard to Layo lore, but alas, we're just not fast enough.

[darkstorme]

As in previous discussions related to the class descriptions of Monks and Weapon Masters on LORE (mostly to do with the presence or absence of "ki" in Layonara), unfortunately the current class descriptions in LORE are copied verbatim from those that come from the NWN Handbook (http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Red_dragon_disciple), and may not accurately reflect the classes as they exist in Layonara.  This is currently in the process of being corrected, but as with everything else, this takes time.

This is not to say that it's not possible that the description is accurate, but given the scarcity of dragons in Layonara, it's hard to believe that all sorcerers and bards in the world come from crossbreeding between dragons and "lesser species".

Again, however, the final word on the subject will have to come from someone other than I.

Edit: Had to come from someone other than I, and did.  Thanks, guys!

[drakogear]

Then how is it done and the progressive mutation from normal race to having seemingly scaly skin and wings... and possible horns and tail.  Horns from tiefling head. (They look possibly draconic to me) The tail added through CDQ I suppose. (any red reptilian tail should do)

Eh, find out if and when I make the sorcerer and get him to take the WLDQ. Hm, perhaps keeping in line with Fisterion. Regardless of character current alignment he would perhaps under go a sort of emotional change. Becoming more aggressive and chaotic as the transformation proceeds to its finally at level 10. Becoming more and more like a dragon on nature as it where. Though perhaps trying to avoid becoming evil in the precess.

Additionally I would think in terms of a neutral RDD Fisterion would mostly prefer CN as they would perhaps be more likely to spread the chaos of Pyrtechon... er... Fisterion

[Dorganath]

Once more, with feeling:

You need to start a dialog with Leanthar and  EdTheKet on this if you're serious about it. Anything that anyone else  will tell you will bet at best incomplete and at worst  inaccurate.

You can speculate and rationalize all you want.  The keepers of this particular bit of lore, that being the RDD class, are at the very top of the organization. Whatever you may think of the class, what the rationale may be or what may seem to make sense, Leanthar has very specific requirements and intent for the RDD class, which is why they are so extremely rare.

So if you have any further speculations or inquiries regarding the RDD class, you need to have the conversation with Leanthar and/or EdTheKet, because nothing anyone else says here is going to make any difference whatsoever.

[EdTheKet]

So if you have any further speculations or inquiries regarding the RDD class, you need to have the conversation with Leanthar and/or EdTheKet, because nothing anyone else says here is going to make any difference whatsoever.

 
  or very limited difference at that. All inquiries can be addressed to me or (preferably) posted here so that everyone can read.
 
 And indeed, LORE has the verbatim NWN text. It is not true that all bards and sorcs have dragon blood traces in them. But, we will stick to the mechanical requirement of Bard or Sorceror for purely mechanical reasons and us not willing to spend any programming time on potentially expanding prerequisite classes.
 
 Some other points:
 - I will not divulge what Fisterion (or potential others) would put the character through in order to become an RDD
 - Don't count on it being one CDQ, it's a journey down a road to corruption, so to speak, so let go of any hope to obtain RDD upon a first CDQ, this is WLDQ only as mentioned on LORE LORE: Prestige Class Submission Requirements
 - reason for this is that a dragon is not just going to make anyone and everyone its disciple. One single CDQ is not going to cut it, you're going to have to do several which would culminate into a WLDQ which may or may not be succesfull.

[lonnarin]

If I had the slot free, I'd make a sorcerer Red Dragon Disciple fire mage that would blow your socks off.  Sadly, I'm too attached to the ones I have now, hrrrm...

Farros would be a good candidate with skald and all, but one doesn't EAT the princesses in the manner that Pyrtechon proposes.  They woo them with song and wine and pillow talk, baby.  Especially if their fathers bestowed them with huge tracts of land!

[EdTheKet]

This became a long thread!

I looked at the text in question and can see where it doesn't match how we're portraying the extent of the number of people speaking draconic, it being taught and all that.
I'll have it remedied in the near future. However, there's also some points I have to talk to Leanthar about and he's out until the end of the week so I'll get back to this later and cover it all in one go (I hope, if not you're all vocal enough to ask ).

Have not forgotten this, combining this with the recent talk about the Risen.

[EdTheKet]

Please see LORE: Lucinda: Sects for updated Dragonlinks.

Please also note that this page: LORE: Languages of Layonara   has not been changed and the draconic language as it is described there is how it should be portrayed.

Hope this clarifies.