Does ESA add up to the ability bonus cap?

[geloooo]

I have an ESA with +2 CHA and I was wondering if it will add up to the +12 cap on all magical enhancements on a character.

[ShiffDrgnhrt]

Yes, it count's towards the +12 max to an ability.  You can still add +12 to other stats, but you can only add an additional 10 with a Dark Elf.

As a further note!!!  sub-Race Ability bonuses do NOT count towards the requirements of spells or feats!  If you are a paladin or Cleric Aasimar, the +2 to wisdom does not count towards the required amount of Wis needed for cleric and Paladin Spells, nor would Half Giant Str Bonus help towards feats like Devastating Crit or Overwhelming...

[Acacea]

'cause they're green and not white... in other words, the implementation of skins is such that nothing is a base ability adjustment, but is mechanically considered a magical enhancement.

[geloooo]

alright thanks! now i have to rethink a few items

[Chongo]

The ageless NWN subrace woes of being green instead of white .

One talented fella actually managed to break through these barriers with a server-side version of LETO.  But alas, on Layonara we are left with green versus red versus white.

[geloooo]

Yeah I hate it when my subrace skin doesn't get validated.

[ShiffDrgnhrt]

The ageless NWN subrace woes of being green instead of white .

One talented fella actually managed to break through these barriers with a server-side version of LETO.  But alas, on Layonara we are left with green versus red versus white.

I know someone who actually did that, but he's one of our lovely ex-players (banned) so I doubt he'd want to help...  nor is it likely it would change anyway...

[Chongo]

I know someone who actually did that, but he's one of our lovely ex-players (banned) so I doubt he'd want to help...  nor is it likely it would change anyway...

Yeah, my comment was mostly a joke.  In the matter of balance, going white on subrace stats breaks things.  Not horribly, but it opens up stuff NWN didn't expect nor write to.

[darkstorme]

It also requires that illegal characters be permitted on the server, and that opens up an entirely different can of worms.  There are a number of subrace systems for NWN that use LETO - but they all require that "Allow Illegal Characters" be turned on in the server.

[Faldred]

Of course, there is the slightly abusable loophole that NEGATIVE ESA adjustments should, in theory, be able to be offset by more than +12, because the +12 cap is to the base score, not the ESA score.