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Chrys Ellis

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    Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « on: September 14, 2005, 03:39:00 pm »
    I finally managed to make one of these babies. It took 2 planks of mahogony, 4 platinum gears, 6 platinum wires, 3 essences of grace, and 2 esences of speed.  Personally, I am not sure it lives up to the resources needed to make it.  The +1 Dex bonus is a nice feature, but a yew crossbow gives a better AB, so I'm not sure this makes up for the unlimited ammo feature. Yes, I said makes up for it, because, in my opinion, this feature is a detriment, not an advantage, to the bow.
      Sure, it won't ever run out of ammo, but the only ammo it uses is regular bolts. It would be nice if you could load your own bolts onto it, but if nothing was loaded, it would revert to regular unlimited bolts or something.  The way it is now, you can't improve the missiles it fires.  That makes it far worse than a yew crossbow, in my opinion.
      Now, what would be very nice, is if this could be enchanted with elemental damage, and maybe even silver, like weapons can, to add those kinds of damages to the bolt being shot. Any chance of this?
     

    Thunder Pants

    RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « Reply #1 on: September 14, 2005, 03:45:00 pm »
    actually correct me if i'm wrong here but on the unlimited ammo things you can add in your own ammo, but when they run out it reverts to the original bolts
     

    Guardian 452

    RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « Reply #2 on: September 14, 2005, 03:47:00 pm »
    That was my understanding of how those worked as well TP.


    Never made one of em.
     

    FlameStrike

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    RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « Reply #3 on: September 14, 2005, 04:03:00 pm »
    I've had one of those unlimited ammo bows on some other server, and it didn't allow you to use other ammo than the unlimited one it provides.

     I could be wrong, though, since it's been a while since i last checked that server.
     

    Frendh

    RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « Reply #4 on: September 14, 2005, 04:32:00 pm »
    To put it in another perspective. A lvl 12 character
    could gather/make the things needed for the crossbow.
    How well do you think the same character would be
    doing while harvesting yew?

    Most of the things' recipes that need a lot of components,
    but not so rare ones, are made so to make it possible for
    a lower lvl range crafters to be able to get the things and
    craft it. But at the same time making it hard for mass-
    production.

    I do not agree with all the balancing, but as far as
    concerning that crossbow, there's nothing to complain about.

    In plain words, yew is way more worth than those components
    needed for the crossbow.
     

    IDii

    RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « Reply #5 on: September 14, 2005, 04:43:00 pm »
    Yeah, err... there's bit of a level difference with the recipes I think

    Repeating crossbow is a repeating crossbow. Yew crossbow is a yew crossbow.

    Yew crossbow requires yew, repeating crossbow mahogany... and those resources have (or at least should have) like a 8 level difference there... So yeah you can expect the yew one to be better.
     

    Pankoki

    RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
    « Reply #6 on: September 14, 2005, 06:24:00 pm »
    Pretty much what Frendh said. Its complicated to make but you can get all the stuff at really low level, so dont expect it to be exceptional, just special. Definitely dont compare it to Yew.. heh Yew is the best bow you can make.
      All complicated recipes don't need to make amazing items, it simply adds variety. More importantly, the way crafting used to work where you had 2 components that made one uber item is just bad. Especially now that the world population is huge we need to keep it under control. That is why many crafts have changed but there are still more changes to be made somewhere in the distant future.
     

    Chrys Ellis

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      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #7 on: September 14, 2005, 07:21:00 pm »
      Ok, bad to compare it to yew.  However, the bow IS limited to normal ammo (I tried loading other ammo while equipping the bow, with no luck), and that does limit it's usefulness quite a bit.
        It would be nice if some sort of damage could be added to this bow, like elemental or extra slashing, even if the duration or supply was limited, through alchemy or add-on build, or something.  Dont know if it would even be possible, though.
       

      Talan Va'lash

      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #8 on: September 14, 2005, 11:32:00 pm »
      The reason this crossbow is the way it is, is because it was supposed to grant the rapid reload feat.  However for some reason that only bioware understands, rapid reload isnt one of the choices to put on a crossbow.  So, it ended up the way it is.

      -TV
       

      Talan Va'lash

      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #9 on: September 14, 2005, 11:32:00 pm »
      The reason this crossbow is the way it is, is because it was supposed to grant the rapid reload feat.  However for some reason that only bioware understands, rapid reload isnt one of the choices to put on a crossbow.  So, it ended up the way it is.

      -TV
       

      Filatus

      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #10 on: September 15, 2005, 06:39:00 am »
      It could have been worse you know:

      Gnomish repeating crossbow: "Hello, I am a gnomish repeating crossbow."

      Xiao Lin: "Sorry, could you repeat yourself?"

      Gnomish repeating crossbow: "Yeah sure... Hello, I am a gnomish repeating crossbow."

      Xiao Lin: "I see, thank you."

      Gnomish repeating crossbow: "Hello, I am a gnomish repeating crossbow."

      Xiao Lin: "Yes, I know."

      Gnomish repeating crossbow: "Hello, I am a gnomish repeating crossbow."

      Xiao Lin: "Really, you can stop repeating yourself."

      Gnomish repeating crossbow: "Hello, I am a gnomish repeating crossbow."

      Xiao Lin: "Stop talking already!"

      Gnomish repeating crossbow: "Hello, I am a gnomish repeating crossbow."

      *runs off crying himself to sleep dreaming about all the platinum that was used*
       

      Talan Va'lash

      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #11 on: September 15, 2005, 06:50:00 am »
      See, my double post had a hidden relevant meaning.... yes... *shifty eyes*

      -TV

      Edit:  A dexterity bonus is good for more than just AB.  Reflex saves, AC, dex skills... yeah, I think thats about it.
       

      Guardian 452

      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #12 on: September 15, 2005, 10:02:00 am »


      We need to remember the key word in the title... Gnomish


      Their should be a % it summons a balor to eat you or back fires and hurts you or something.... ;)


      G-452

       

      FlameStrike

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      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #13 on: September 15, 2005, 11:08:00 am »
      Yeah, add an On Hit: Meteor Swarm effect, and that'll make things balanced. :)
       

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      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #14 on: September 16, 2005, 04:07:00 pm »
      Not all things gnomish should have disasterous consequences :( perhaps only if you happen to be a race other than a gnome :D that builds it.
      Unless of course there is a place on Layonara that is similar to Kara Tur, then you could have the pellet-bow and the cho'ku'no.
       

      lunchboxkilla

      RE: Gnomish Repeating crossbow
      « Reply #15 on: September 19, 2005, 07:01:00 am »
      Epic hellball casted on user from a level 40 mage on a 25 or greater roll of 100 BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!