Iron golem poison gas does double damage sometimes - FIXED

[SteveMaurer]

Darth just had her first legitimate soul strand loss. Still, it seems to be her luck to hit on every single bug in the game engine.    Let me explain:

She got caught in her own iron golem's poison gas attack, and died from it.   The funny thing is, this should have been impossible.

The gas is listed as the following in LORE:

"Miscellaneous: Iron Golem Breath (This DC 17 poison deals 1d4 Constitution damage, then death)."

In fact, one reason why I felt safe picking it over the helmed horror summon was because I wasn't particularly afraid if he accidentally got sprayed a little.    But the first time it actually happened, she died impossibly quickly.

I went back over the log to see what happened.  I'm going to point out all the places where she could have lost CON.

[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:34] Darthirâe Zhalberen casting Invisibility
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:36] Darthirâe Zhalberen casts Invisibility
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Summoned Iron Golem breathes gas.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Darthirâe Zhalberen : Initiative Roll : 18 : (18 + 0 = 18)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Darthirâe Zhalberen : Fortitude Save vs. Poison : *failure* : (8 + 7 = 15 vs. DC: 17)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Darthirâe Zhalberen : Fortitude Save vs. Poison : *failure* : (8 + 7 = 15 vs. DC: 17)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Poisoned: Initial Ability Damage Applied
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Quetil Commoner : Fortitude Save vs. Poison : *failure* : (3 + 11 = 14 vs. DC: 17)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:44] Quetil Commoner attacks Summoned Iron Golem : *hit* : (12 + 10 = 22)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:45] Quetil Steward sings.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:46] Quetil Commoner attacks Summoned Iron Golem : *miss* : (3 + 5 =
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:49] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Commoner : *target concealed: 30%* : (12 + 24 = 36)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:50] Quetil Steward casting Wounding Whispers
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:51] Quetil Commoner attacks Summoned Iron Golem : *hit* : (20 + 22 = 42 : Threat Roll: 9 + 22 = 31)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:51] Quetil Commoner damages Summoned Iron Golem: 7 (7 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:52] Quetil Steward casts Wounding Whispers
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:52] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Commoner : *hit* : (15 + 19 = 34)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:52] Summoned Iron Golem damages Quetil Commoner: 28 (28 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:53] Darthirâe Zhalberen casting Mass Haste
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:53] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Commoner : *miss* : (2 + 14 = 16)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:54] Quetil Commoner attacks Summoned Iron Golem : *hit* : (19 + 17 = 36 : Threat Roll: 11 + 17 = 28)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:55] Quetil Commoner damages Summoned Iron Golem: 4 (4 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:55] Darthirâe Zhalberen casts Mass Haste
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:56] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Commoner : *hit* : (7 + 24 = 31)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:56] Summoned Iron Golem damages Quetil Commoner: 28 (28 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:56] Experience Points Gained:  168
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:56] Summoned Iron Golem killed Quetil Commoner
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:51:59] Quetil Steward casting War Cry
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:00] Summoned Iron Golem breathes gas.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:00] Quetil Steward : Fortitude Save vs. Poison : *success* : (12 + 12 = 24 vs. DC: 17)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:01] Quetil Steward casts War Cry
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:01] Darthirâe Zhalberen : Will Save vs. Fear : *failure* : (4 + 12 = 16 vs. DC: 21)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:03] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *hit* : (7 + 24 = 31)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:03] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *hit* : (14 + 19 = 33)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:03] Quetil Steward damages Summoned Iron Golem: 15 (15 Sonic)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:03] Summoned Iron Golem damages Quetil Steward: 25 (25 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:04] Quetil Steward damages Summoned Iron Golem: 15 (15 Sonic)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:04] Summoned Iron Golem damages Quetil Steward: 20 (20 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:05] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *miss* : (12 + 14 = 26)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:06] Quetil Steward casting Cure Critical Wounds
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:06] Attack Of Opportunity : Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *target concealed: 30%* : (14 + 24 = 38)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:07] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *miss* : (10 + 4 = 14)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:13] Quetil Steward damages Summoned Iron Golem: 9 (9 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:15] Attack Of Opportunity : Quetil Steward attacks Summoned Iron Golem : *hit* : (18 + 31 = 49 : Threat Roll: 17 + 31 = 48)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:15] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *hit* : (17 + 24 = 41)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:15] Summoned Iron Golem attacks Quetil Steward : *hit* : (16 + 19 = 35)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:16] Quetil Steward damages Summoned Iron Golem: 8 (8 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:16] Quetil Steward damages Summoned Iron Golem: 15 (15 Sonic)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:16] Summoned Iron Golem damages Quetil Steward: 26 (26 Physical)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:16] Quetil Steward damages Summoned Iron Golem: 15 (15 Sonic)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:24] Rodlin Serim has joined as a player..
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:37] Acquired 27GP
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:37] *Darthirâe Zhalberen looted 27 gold pieces*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:41] Acquired Item: Warhammer
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:41] You are encumbered and cannot run.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:41] *Darthirâe Zhalberen looted an unidentified item (Warhammer)*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:44] Darthirâe Zhalberen : Fortitude Save vs. Poison : *failure* : (8 + 6 = 14 vs. DC: 17)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:44] Poison: Secondary Ability Damage Applied
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:44] Darthirâe Zhalberen: dead
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Aug 23 17:52:44] Soul Save vs. Soul Mother : *failure* : (1 vs. DC: 14)

Even if she had been doubly unlucky and lost the maximum CON from the poison damage, her CON is 14, and she should have had 6 CON left.   I think something is double counting somewhere.

Note, I'm perfectly aware that this may not be something that the Layonara team can fix, and thus may not qualify for a SS reimbursement.   But at the very least, it should be noted in LORE that the poison damage may be considerably greater than 1d4 CON.

(I'm a bit POed at myself because I could have easily applied a bandage to cure the poison.  I just didn't think it was all that bad.)

[Thunder Pants]

read the lore again, the secondary effect of the poison is Death, not con modifier. your log appears to back up that this is what happened.

note this means when innitially poisoned the character will lose 1d4 points of con, if the poison goes untreated when the secondary effect hits if failed the character will die.

this is exactly what the LORE says, and not a bug in any sense of the term

EDIT: whether anti death effects such as shadow shield or deathward effect this or not i do not know

[Hellblazer]

the only way I know of to not get killed to to have an effect or equipment that will render you immune to poison.

and ye the secondary effect is death. Seen it many times.

[SteveMaurer]

read the lore again, the secondary effect of the poison is Death, not con modifier. your log appears to back up that this is what happened.

OK.  I guess I misread it.    I interpreted the description as "CON loss until that causes death", not "CON loss.  Then a separate death effect".

It would be helpful to clarify that.

[miltonyorkcastle]

Clarified: [LORE]Iron Golem Poison Gas[/LORE]

[Chazzler]

On a sidenote, watch out for the big scorpions as well.
Their poison is similar, in the secondary effect: death part.

[Hellblazer]

YOu may wish to update this page, or delete it.

[miltonyorkcastle]

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