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Varnart

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The Nerves
« on: July 24, 2005, 08:48:00 am »
 Gonna have a violin test to enter a music school on the 25th July, 10.00 AM GMT. Gonna play Vivaldi's "Spring" from the Four Seasons, Rieding's "Concert in B minor", and a Minuet from J.S.Bach. Really nervous. Wish me luck.
 

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RE: The Nerves
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005, 08:57:00 am »
Yeah good luck with that one dude!

I'm a musician myself (guitars/vocals/keyboards) so I know what performing is like, especially if its for something important like an entrance exam. The trick to remember is that they'll be judging you on your ability to cope with the mistakes you might make, as well as the overall performance. Although I can't say for certain, I'd be pretty confident that if you keep yourself level and composed, the odd mistake won't matter that much if the overall thing is good. Nobody can play flawlessly every single time, and what you think is a mistake they might not even notice.

I guess it might be different for violins and the like to guitars, but I'm sure you'll ace it anyway :)
 

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RE: The Nerves
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2005, 09:15:00 am »
 It's not that different, though I sure would prefer if I could play with a group. I get much less nervous when I have a concert with the school (regular school not music school) orchestra, than when I have a solo concert. Oh and because some may be confused about this, I have been playing violin for 6 years with a private teacher, and 4 years ago started playing in the orchestra of the school I have regular classes (math, etc) in, and at the same time having harpsichord classes in a school along with musical theory and choir classes. The harpsichord classes are being disastrous, though in the others I'm very good, and as such I decided to focus only in the violin. The music school I was in didn't teach violin, so I'm going to try to enter another one. I'm *very* nervous.
 

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RE: The Nerves
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005, 09:15:00 am »
Cool stuff!  Good luck.
 

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    RE: The Nerves
    « Reply #4 on: July 24, 2005, 10:57:00 am »
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    Varnart - 7/24/2005  11:48 AM     Gonna have a violin test to enter a music school on the 25th July, 10.00 AM GMT. Gonna play Vivaldi's "Spring" from the Four Seasons, Rieding's "Concert in B minor", and a Minuet from J.S.Bach. Really nervous. Wish me luck.
     Best of luck!  I have my BA in music, with a few credits towards my masters in Composition.  Though, I am about 8th grade level on strings. ;)  (Brass was my speciality)  If you like Rieding's B minor, you will love Ferdinand Kuchler's Concertino In D Op.15 .  Well, at least I do.
     

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    RE: The Nerves
    « Reply #5 on: July 24, 2005, 02:28:00 pm »
    It's always harder to play by yourself ;)

    I'm a musician too (guitar,drums,bass,mandolin).

    For classical guitar tests (at school) I'd have to play for about 30 people, and I was never prepared (heh, senior year :) ).

    However, being quite capable on guitar (and having played in more than a dozen bands), I just practiced the tune two or three times to get a feel for it, listened to the song, and sight read what I could not pick up beyond that.

    The trick was all in my head...As I would play (and I had maybe 15 tests like this), I just saw myself in my mind's eye doing everything to the best of my availability. All of the phrasing, technique, posturing, etc. The majority of the time I scored perfect (but certainly not every time).

    I've always advocated "mind over matter" to my guitar students. As far as performing goes, I got my ideas from this guy (a fantastic fusion guitarist).

    "Some more thoughts........

    I've often read in this forum, that many of you are away from your instruments for long periods and have no way of practicing.....so I thought I'd share some of my ideas and approaches on how to practice without your instrument in hand......

    There is a story about the world renowned pianist Artur Rubenstein who once had to learn an entire piano concerto while on a train to the very recital in which it was to be performed......

    He hadn't had the sufficient time to rehearse it before hand and had to rely on his mind's eye to "practice it"...

    Needless to say, the recital was a success and this approach became a part of his regular technique...

    Pagannini was said to have also used this mental practice technique.....a man who was curious about how Pagannini practiced, arranged to have a hotel room next to the virtuoso's to catch a glimpse......the man heard nothing, and found out that Pagannini did not always practice with the violin in his hands....

    Using the power of "mind over fingers" is not just a mental approach reserved for special people.....heck, I use it all the time, and you can't get any more normal than me.....

    Often times I don't have time to physically learn tunes for some of the gigs I do, and often just listen to the C.D.s or tapes on the way to the gig, memorizing the songs and solos, parts, or whatever....only to play them live only an hour later.....

    Anyway.....any guitar player, any musician, can use this method......

    Though the mind's ability is almost limitless, there are some things that will short out the process, you should be aware of....

    Much of our blocks, mentally, come from impurities in our bodies that inhibit our nervous systems.....stress can reduce our capacity as well; attitude can affect greatly our mind's ability to control our body......taking the attitude and believing the lies that we are untalented or limited will build walls between our minds and hands.....

    .....but EVERYONE can use this technique to some degree....

    Visualizing the fretboard is something that has helped me considerably.....I'm often asked how I memorized my modes, and then how I manage to get in and out of them as fluidly as people seem to think.....and my answer is simply: "the fretboard lights up for me, and I can see every note choice visually..."

    So visualization can be a great, a powerful tool for us......

    Our conscious mind thinks, and give commands...

    Our subconscious mind attempt the commands....

    It is our subconscious that performs breathing, digestion, etc....

    But, we can train it to perform, with precision, musical commands as well....

    Repetition of input will cause the inner process to become more forward, and take on an immediacy, and second nature akin to breathing, and blinking of eyes......

    Negatively, you can keep telling yourself you are going to screw up that one solo in the 3rd song, and it will most often bear out as such.....

    Positively, a piece practiced many times; a mode practiced many times; chord fingerings; etc......will tend to burn into your brain's deepest regions and and thusly, give you more muscle memory control, and deliver accurate results....

    Hearing things from within; seeing music visually; sensing your playing BEFORE it happens all require one common thing: FOCUS without FEAR....

    Focusing without fear takes a calm approach.....

    It takes an acceptance of the moment, and letting go of the past and future results.........

    And it takes the ability to just let the music happen, and not try and "control" it......

    Hearing music from within takes the discipline of ear training and creating a foundation of sounds and their relationships......once internalized, you can almost learn a tune from memory.....

    I've played countless gigs where a tune is called that I've never played before, and I've had to play it on the spot from having only the memory (sometimes quite distant) to work from....

    Seeing music visually, can be seeing the fretboard, see unrelated non-muscial shapes and colors that your mind associates with certain sounds.....it can be seeing the relationships of distance from chord to chord, interval to interval......and it can be quite helpful......it can be seeing the notation in your head and visualizing the fingerings......all come with time spent on creating those associations....

    Sensing your playing BEFORE you play it, is a kind of sixth sense, and a kind of confidence.....you can sense the tension rising in your body as a difficult passage come along and diffuse it.....you can improvise your solo mentally ahead of time while the pianist is soloing over his chorus of the jazz standard....the key to sensing ahead, is relaxation and listening carefully....

    A clever player will always seek the techniques of practice that yield the highest quality result, with the least effort......visualization is such a technique.......though it does require laying some ground work and some mental concentration, it can require less physical energy, in the long run....

    All that is necessary is for you to have a clear concept of the musical result you want to achieve, then your fingers will be guided naturally towards the realization of the goal....provided that your conscious mind gets out of the way, and doesn't try too hard to control the process......some details of playing require special attention, repetition and careful analysis and will resist this technique, but much of the kind of physical contact with the instrument can be reduced by doing more with your mind than you have been accustomed to doing.....the idea is to allow the music to become a part of your inner mind and let it flow from within, rather than having to squeeze it out with force...

    Anyway, some thoughts I had today.....I thought I'd share them......

    Peace,

    Scott"

    -Scott Jones

    I just thought I'd share Scott's words.
     

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    RE: The Nerves
    « Reply #6 on: July 24, 2005, 03:04:00 pm »
    Break a leg, don't wear green ;)
     

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    RE: The Nerves
    « Reply #7 on: July 24, 2005, 03:19:00 pm »
    Good luck, i hope everything goes well. :)
     

    Varnart

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    RE: The Nerves
    « Reply #8 on: July 24, 2005, 04:07:00 pm »
     Thanks a lot for all the responses, going to bed now, don't want to be sleepy when I get there. Thanks a lot again.
     

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      RE: The Nerves
      « Reply #9 on: July 24, 2005, 04:38:00 pm »
      Good luck
       

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      RE: The Nerves
      « Reply #10 on: July 24, 2005, 04:43:00 pm »
      Man. For some reason it's less of "I am away from my instrument" than "I just really blow when I'm not either on stage or in a 'music room'" It's like reverse stage fright. It's not even "Wow, the acoustics are pretty awful in here," just, "hey! Can't even get a note out! Neat!"

      So if for some reason I can't make practices but have the music, I'll try the whole visual thing, but generally sneak into dress rehearsal or even the concert and hope no one notices the lead french horn is sight reading.  :o

      So yeah, good luck with that. *Grins*
       

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        RE: The Nerves
        « Reply #11 on: July 24, 2005, 10:37:00 pm »
        Blow them away man. Just stay calm and you'll do fine. Played cello myself for 8.5 years and auditioning for parts, whether it be a school or for a job, can be tough. Most important thing I ever found was to just relax and don't think about the others in the room. Boa Sorte!
         

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        RE: The Nerves
        « Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 04:06:00 am »
        just came from there. had some minor mistakes, but I think I managed to hide them.