Prestige Classes for monks

I've beatin the game as a monk and i love they rock.But i also have played other servers as a monka and the best thing top do is get some glove that add damge like fire or some type of elemetal damage and then once that happens it be ouchy time.

[miltonyorkcastle]

mechanically speaking, playing a monk means you're playing for the long run, as monks are pretty weak early on.  Your main (not only) advantage as a monk is your speed, in attacks and movement and AC, and you don't get significant increases to that until quite a bit later.  A monk will never do hoards of damage, but they can hold their own.  What they do become, however, is very difficult to kill, without the need of buffs or magic.  An epic monk is the ultimate soloist.

Not-so-mechanically speaking, a monk's primary concern is perfection and order, in mind, body, and soul.  As they reach that bodily perfection, they become increasingly difficult to harm, as they gain an insight and control over their body only a perfectly attuned being can have.

[Stephen_Zuckerman]

Have none of you ever seen a PnP monk who was nothing more than a fighter who excelled in unarmed combat? The sort of wandering, Rayden-like figure, who wasn't some devotee of a monastic order, but simply a man who fought with his fist, or a staff, or the oddly-shaped dagger he carried.

Hmph.

[miltonyorkcastle]

nope.  to me, what you're describing, Stevie, is a fighter who uses his fists...  that is, with the two-weapon fighting feats and the unarmed strike feats.  monks are inherently different.

[Acacea]

Annoying disclaimer: I'm neither a PnP nor online roleplaying veteran. That said.

I'm not really one for locking classes into stereotypes, but I don't agree. I feel that the monk's path is a great deal more rigid than the one of a simple fighter who is just good at fighting with their fists. I don't know how it came about, who/what they learned from or where, but considering the abilities a monk receives, a man who simply fights with his fists should just be a fighter with the appropriate feats to reflect that. Monk characters don't have to be monks in the monastic sense (in my opinion), but they are a great deal more than just, say, a brawler or something.

It just needs to in some way reflect the abilities that the monk receives, instead of being a fighter with neat stuff that is unexplained but nice to have.

Edit- Beat me. Hehe.

[Stephen_Zuckerman]

Acacea - 11/15/2005  4:32 PM

Annoying disclaimer: I'm neither a PnP nor online roleplaying veteran. That said.

I'm not really one for locking classes into stereotypes, but I don't agree. I feel that the monk's path is a great deal more rigid than the one of a simple fighter who is just good at fighting with their fists. I don't know how it came about, who/what they learned from or where, but considering the abilities a monk receives, a man who simply fights with his fists should just be a fighter with the appropriate feats to reflect that. Monk characters don't have to be monks in the monastic sense (in my opinion), but they are a great deal more than just, say, a brawler or something.

It just needs to in some way reflect the abilities that the monk receives, instead of being a fighter with neat stuff that is unexplained but nice to have.

Edit- Beat me. Hehe.

Oh, aye, I completely agree with you, actually. But this fighter... Or combatant, if you prefer for me not to use the word that applies to a completely different character class... His goal isn't just to brawl, but to acheive perfection in himself, and in his fighting. He may not follow some rigid monastic tradition, but he is inherently bound to his own code, whatever that code may be. It's a role that quite a few classes can fit into, but Monk, I've found, fits it best, when properly played.

[Acacea]

Stephen_Zuckerman - 11/15/2005  Whenever
Have none of you ever seen a PnP monk who was nothing more than a fighter who excelled in unarmed combat?

Pretty much all we were going on, there.

Like I said, I don't think they have to be so narrow as to be only devotees of a monastic order, but the name didn't fit your earlier description. Hehe.

[miltonyorkcastle]

I have made fighter characters like the type of character you're describing, Mr. Zuckerman, but they were lone wanderers (Ronin, if you will, though not necessarily lordless samurai) who sought perfection with the sword, rather than with their bodies.  I can, however, see what you're getting at, and, yes, I do think that a monk does not necessarily have to come from or be a part of a monastary.