The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Harloff on April 26, 2006, 03:53:06 am
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Now many people are talking about the trasitien to NWN2, and I have heard many opinions on the matter. Personally I would be sad to see Skarp wiped, I kind of like the old brute and I have spend months playing him. I figured that many out there felt the same way so I just wanted to check.
I have asked 2 questions in this poll:
1 ) What you think of a wipe?
2 ) What solution would you prefer to the problems of switching from NWN to NWN2?
NOTE: I know that the crafting system will be changed and that the current crafter system will die, but I would like to see the crafter level translated into the new system.
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The "character itself" (all friends he/she knows, history, etc) are far more important for me than the levels.
One could of course make a new character and make a new story and get new friends, etc. But... It wouldn't really be the same thing...
Starting at lvl 1 or whatever doesn't matter for me. :)
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The wipe will certainly make playing afterwards a lot harder. I have continued to play for all this time mostly because I have a character with a long history that can not be thrown away. Without my original character, I will of course play when Layonara converts to NWN2, no doubt here, but I don't know for how long it will last.
I would certainly like to see characters continue with 1/2 of their levels, though I know that is not very likely. We are going to have a new crafting system, so we won't be able to keep the levels, we are going to have a new Xp system, so starting from 10+ may be tricky. The most important factor here is time, I have very serious doubts that the plot will continue where it broke off, I assume atleast a couple of hundred years will pass, we do want to see more mature dragons :)
So I know I would like to carry on with Rufus, but with NWN2, totally new system and a new plot, it is most likely impossible.
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I cant see how a wipe can be avoided... By the Gods, itll be a whole new experience with NWN2, and what better thing to do than to let all start over..? This place is not about lvls, items and gold. Its about the players, crew and atmosphere, am I right?
By all means, please introduce some of the epic chars back in to the world. Those who have made a lasting impression upon the storyline, if thats possible, but Im not sure it would be of any good to see all chars converted... And I dont think, when it comes down to it, anyone would leave Layo because of a wipe, I rather think itll bring Layo into a whole new greater demension. But hey, it sure aint up to me and remember its just my opinion...
So to put n end to my post: Thumbs up for a cleanslate "Layo2"!
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Ar7 - 4/26/2006 5:17 AM
I have very serious doubts that the plot will continue where it broke off, I assume atleast a couple of hundred years will pass
The only thing its safe to assume, is that its not safe to assume anything. *grins*
And I'm not just saying that to be asinine... Don't assume anything!
I'm very attached to a character or two of mine, but the possibility of a complete wipe still does little to stiffle the giddiness I felt when I first heard some of the ideas for layo-nwn2 that were being bandied about.
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Additionally, it would need to be around 5000 years in the future to ensure that all characters (elves, wizards, elven wizards etc.) from nwn1 couldn't be in nwn2.
I doubt it will be that long.
If you look close enough, you can see the beginnings of a new storyline, the foundations for a new campaign. They've been there for a long time... The villians, the accomplices... the stage is being set for them. The question is, will anyone figure out who before its too late?
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To me it is about a character. Her social interactions and friends. I would like PC to be able to keep their caharacters, so that existing parties can essentially keep together. I enjoy making and meeting new friends, but the special friends my PC has are the gems in the mud. For that reason alone I would like to keep my character, albeit as a lvl 1 char.
Also crafting levels should be stripped to nothing. Those who are currently experienced crafters, will not doubt be able to work hard and re-become the master craftsmen that they were. Those who have up to now been too lazy to craft may feel the need if they can't just purchase things easily.
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As much of a hedge as this will sound, I really think it depends on the story. If it is supposed to be 1,000 years later, for example, it would be unreasonable for the same folks to be advernturing then as now.
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I have a lot to say, but it all boils down to a very short sentence:
We're in good hands.
Leanthar and crew probably have been thinking about this for a long time. After the NWN2 announcement and reading our reactions, I'm sure they'll find that we're happy with whatever they choose to do and at least a part of the active players won't complaining about starting over.
As Talan said, lots of new and subtle events are a popping up that could lead into something new, maybe the shift from NWN-Layonara to NWN2-Layonara will be handled through a narrative of the development of these events into the new, full blown campaign.
I just hope the next manual isn't 800 pages long. :)
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Well it being a new game with a new "Plot" I think we should do a wipe.
I also think that each "player" should be able to auto submit one (1) "character". This acheeved by the Player submiting under a thread the name of the Character to be started at level 1. (I think this will help the Character Approvers)
For those that want to submit a new character, may they be able to submit two (2) to three (3) weeks before the change is made?
This way we can have a smooth *Restart*.
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To be honest I am not fond of the idea for the characters to be wiped neither am I that we switch to NWN2 because then I would have to get a new computer but I think Layonara is worth it so I shall get a new one, but I will then have to remake my 5 characters and Im not sure If I should to do that as I have forgotten most of their bios
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SuperMunch - 4/26/2006 8:22 AM
I just hope the next manual isn't 800 pages long. :)
Wait... the guy who plays Freldo is complaining about something being too wordy? 8)
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Wait... the guy who plays Freldo is complaining about something being too wordy?
*chuckles*
Naw... I'm just a lazy reader.
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Talan Va'lash - 4/26/2006 4:57 AM
If you look close enough, you can see the beginnings of a new storyline, the foundations for a new campaign. They've been there for a long time... The villians, the accomplices... the stage is being set for them. The question is, will anyone figure out who before its too late?
Oh I have a few guesses here *grins*
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*shrugs* I have never been able to go on any plot quests due to the time zones, work and level restrictions, so I don't care much about the plot to be honest.
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Like I said, I wouldn't mind the wipe. I think the combination of the new NWN2 interface, graphics, etc... coupled with the new layonara storyline (will it be new? like ya'll said we can't assume anything) would keep me interested. Developing a fresh new character appeals to me, though I can most certainly understand the pain of losing a character with a long history and depth. But then again, the question is - will you have the energy to begin the developement process over again. Personally, as stated, given the new fresh new features that will be available plus a "prettier" world - I have that energy and am rather eager. I love my characters, but I'm so sick of the NWN limitations, graphics, etc... This may not be shared by many but *shrugs*. It's a nice poll Harloff. Again - I've no doubt that like Dorg said - the team will do what's best for the community and whatever happens I'm sure it will be great!
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awww, there wasn't an option on the poll for those of us out there who just don't care. Wipe or no wipe, we'll enjoy whatever comes, and a server wipe is really the last thing on our minds. Or am I the only one?
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miltonyorkcastle - 4/26/2006 3:10 PM
awww, there wasn't an option on the poll for those of us out there who just don't care. Wipe or no wipe, we'll enjoy whatever comes, and a server wipe is really the last thing on our minds. Or am I the only one?
Cursed!
That was something I had forgotten to think about... Maybe it is just because I never thought of it, blessed as I am with an opnion about (almost) everything.
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:P :P :P
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Certainly it is missing the point if you could bring you lvl 20 char to Layo2. Simply because you would miss out on 90% of the new game. You probably could run through all areas within 3 days and then? You get bored. Its a new game and starting at level one is the only satisfying way to experience all the new areas/quest etc.
For all those that really love their chars I think allowing to bring them along starting at LVL1 would be nice.
NWN2Layo is not going to be just a graphical facelift on Layonara. ;)
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Personally I'd like to keep playing Daeron. But that is mainly because at this point I feel his story isn't full developed yet.
But if there is a wipe I still have an old character of mine that I'd like to see in Layonara.
I definately do not see the point of keeping your level if you can bring the character along.
The waitinglist for ECDQ's is already too long to be completed before the end of the year I think. And well, the absence of the soulmother helped a lot in dramatically increasing the number of highlevel PC's.
If people were to keep their level, Layonara in NWN 2 would from the beginning on be an epic server. I don't think anybody would want that.
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There's a couple things I can say without fear of contradiction later on.
1) The NWN2 version of Layonara will be later in time than the current one.
2) At least initially, there will be no characters with greater than 20 levels.
Yes, I know...Master of the Obvious. The point is, we're still working out the details. In reality, we're looking at a "wipe" regardless, as I do not believe that character files will be portable to NWN2. Having said that, whether we require everyone to start over at level 1 or we allow some levels to be kept or whatever...well, that's still very much up in the air.
NWN2 Layo will, as Thak said, be more than just a reskin and a visual update to Layonara. As Talan suggested, the foundations have already been laid for the next campaign, villains, etc. Though who those villains turn out to be is entirely dependent on the outcome of this current one. *snickers*
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It would sadden me to loose Kobal. Both his background/story/influence and his crafting levels, which I have worked hard for (1000s of hours).
On the other hand we are at the beginning of something new here. If Kobal would still be alive his role would be different in the world. He would be old and his days of adventuring might be over or at least be very limited. That rules out the concern about epics running through the world and killing everything on sight. :)
I am looking forward to NWN2. Very much so in fact. NWN2 with Kobal would be perfect, but if its not doable I'll probably survive anyhow.
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I'm not too fond of a wipe only because crafting is one heck of a headache doing it the first time...but it will be kind of funny to see hundreds of old timers fighting over the ore in the goblin mine when the NWN2 site goes live.
The other good thing is that this will give me the chance to play Freldo Bloodbeard, the son of Grympint, because we all know that Freldo is Grympint's dainty Be-otch. :p
Just messing with you Freldo, ol buddy, ol pal.
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Dorganath - 4/26/2006 4:07 PM
1) The NWN2 version of Layonara will be later in time than the current one.
Are we talking about many years, so that no other than elven characters are likely to be alive?
Or so many years that all characters will be dead?
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Grympint and Freldo's lovechild... :D
Hmmm... Maybe I'm play Grympint Jabutica, a bard, like dad, with mom's sense of humor. Muahahaha!
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Ill miss everyone so much..I don't like the idea at all....@_@ I've become so emotionally attatched...
I need help^^;
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Harloff - 4/26/2006 10:54 AM Dorganath - 4/26/2006 4:07 PM 1) The NWN2 version of Layonara will be later in time than the current one.
Are we talking about many years, so that no other than elven characters are likely to be alive?
Or so many years that all characters will be dead?
I typed what I meant...heh.
The span of time has not yet been decided. It will just be "later". :)
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Harloff>Eh?
Dwarves are long lived and I don't know about Giants and those planar peeps but there are more than just Elves that are long lived. Not that it matters that much.
Hehe...Freldo Jr. can't have the mom's last name, it's just not natural...*shudders* of course, the thought of a love child is just too weird. I'm sure Tegan, the old cape pulling witch, has something to do with it. :D
I am starting to think of a name for Grympint's kid though...being Californian, I'm thinking Gnarlypint Bloodbeard...as in Narly Dude...*roll eyes now*
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As much as I'd hate to se Gotak leave this world, was the reason why I didnt play for 2years when I permed, it is still nice to know that if a wipe came we would all be in the same boat, and we would all get a equal chance of starting a new chapter in layonara. I'd properly make a character similar to Gotak, just because hes very close to me, but I wwelcome a wipe if thats the way things are going.
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Ill miss everyone so much..I don't like the idea at all....@_@ I've become so emotionally attatched...
Bah. :)
We're just anticipating ourselves, the transition is still far away - lots of heads will roll and lots of water will pass 'til then.
And... Gnarlypint? Grumpy dwarf with a stereotypical surfer dude accent? Oh. my. gourd. :D
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I have no problem with a complete wipe.
Ill miss my characters. Some of which are 2 years old +.
I think any epics and lv 20 characters should be made into NPCs.
Thats if they can live as long.If not statues maybe in the places they lived.
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I agree with a wipe. Those who are friends now will find each other again I'm sure :). But I really don't like the idea of an "epic" server, and while I appreciate the amount of time in some of these characters (I did put 2+ years into my EQ char and have played PnP for 24 years, something like that) having a layer of perpetually advanced characters really unbalances things for those "below".
Level playing field for all with the new NWN, I say.
~Honora
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Foobart (1978-81), The Gold Dwarf (1979-83), Selwyn Coldfox (1980-84), etc. etc. etc. the first character was the original D&D minatures rules, the second was the Dungeons and Dragons box set, Selwyn was my original AD&D character, and so it goes. Those of us who have been playing for decades have retired so many great characters that the retirement of characters to make way for new rules has been a part of gaming since we started. That next great character is just waiting to come out and conquer a new world. I for one look forward to a new beginning because what this communitty has going now is so great and that won't be lost with a change in rules, or characters, or world.
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I think a wipe is a good idea - I agree.
A general wipe 14 - Uh huh, I like the idea of a general wipe.
Characters may continue but from level 1 - I don't like this idea. It just doesn't seem plausible that characters who were levels 10, 15, 20, 25, and up would lose all their skills and knowledge.
Characters start from ½ their NWN level, but keep crafter levels - Again I disagree, with both. Allowing people to keep half levels and all crafting levels would give them an unfair advantage and allow players to gain a monopoly on the new Layoanra Economy.
I think starting it all over from level 1 and going through the Beta stages allowing peopel to scratch their way up from the top, just like we did in Layoanra with NWN Original, is the way to go.
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A general wipe is a great Idea. On the other hand if I had a level 20+ char I'd be reluctant to give em up too, but Every story has a begining and an end, so give your high level chars an ending worthy of the effort you put into them.
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While I love playing all of my characters, I feel a wipe is necessary. I will miss my characters, but the fun is in building them up and RP'ing in a great world with very skilled RP'ers. As such, I highly doubt I will play some of my ancillary characters very much. I am also considering to not submit any new characters near the time of migration. I do currently have a character written up for submission that I will go ahead and submit, however. I don't want to abuse the ability to "test" some of my ideas before I create them within NWN2. I feel this would be against server rules, even though no such rule actually exists for "migrating" to a new platform.
Will there be a point at which a lock would be placed on existing players to submit new characters? I wouldn't want to keep new players from entering the world, but I feel at some point they should be notified that Layo2 will be commence and that their newly created characters will be wiped.
These are just some of my thoughts on the imminent change.... Looking forward to Project Team openings !!! :D
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>_>, Alright, alright whipe..
But my next character is a bard..xD It looks like they have all the fun ;)
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"I cant see how a wipe can be avoided... By the Gods, itll be a whole new experience with NWN2, and what better thing to do than to let all start over..? This place is not about lvls, items and gold. Its about the players, crew and atmosphere, am I right?"
yessir!!
As a complete noob, I'd say the combo listed above will fully transfer to NWN2 Layo just fine. I've found my new home and if it changes names - I could care less. Keep up the good work people!
:)
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But my next character is a bard..xD It looks like they have all the fun ;)
That'll depend on the new rules. In my opinion, the bard class got better in the 3.5 rules with more skill points you can make a sneaky bard while still focusing in performance and knowledge. Not to mention you don't have to spend a feat on martial weapons but you don't have the medium feat armor anymore. However, it's still a support class - little to no offensive spells, low HP but you do get to wear some armor - so if by "fun" you mean hard, you got it right. Freldo's level 9 and the beasties in Sielwood are tough to beat without sneaky tactics and he can only take on the Red Caverns because of his Curse Song, I don't imagine NWN2 being any different. Rogues suffer from the support role also, but at least they get tons of skill points to be able to sneak around. Yeah, I like bards... There should be a rule that every party must have at least one bard. *grins*
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Reasonably speaking..
if Layo2 takes off AFTER a few hundred years...
Human PC's will have died...
gnomish and dwarvish may have retired...
elvish would be a possibility...
just my thoughts on that...
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Doc-Holiday - 4/28/2006 11:28 AM
Reasonably speaking..
if Layo2 takes off AFTER a few hundred years...
Human PC's will have died...
gnomish and dwarvish may have retired...
elvish would be a possibility...
just my thoughts on that...
I have a sneaking feeling that if "they" do go far enough into the future (they being Leanthar's Legion of Sadistic GMs), they will ensure that it is a clean wipe so that no one gets indignant. Otherwise we'll have people complaining (as mature as we all are). Plus, there are waaaaaaay too many young elves. Heck, Leanthar could jump ahead half a millenia and half the elves on Layonara would only be 600-ish. :)
Also I sort of hope we do go ahead a good long distance. If Blood wins I'd like to see just what becomes of Layonara after he's ruled for several hundred years. And if he loses, it would be nice to start fresh in a world that has (as far as humans are concearned) long since forgotten the great war against Sinthar Bloodstone. Spiffy innit?
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miltonyorkcastle wrote:
awww, there wasn't an option on the poll for those of us out there who just don't care. Wipe or no wipe, we'll enjoy whatever comes, and a server wipe is really the last thing on our minds. Or am I the only one?
I'm with you on this, milt. Other than enjoying the occasional Nwn2 screen shot preview, I'm focused on the "here-and-now", and having a blast - just as I will be when we get to Nwn2. ;)
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I've been mulling over the prospects of transitioning from NWN to NWN2 (e.g. layo2), especially the issue of character wipe.
Given all the options on the table, and the idea that "its not the levels, items, gold . . etc, its the environment and characters" (paraphrase from earlier post) I personally feel that all characters should be reset to level 1; crafting, level, the whole bit.
Simply discarding the charaters, imho, would set back a lot of individuals, particularly those just getting into the swing of things. True, certain characters, dropped back to level one, would loose their epic abilities. However, through good rp, their epic quality and history would not be lost.
I look at this as a balance of the effort individuals put into their characters and the effort the great layo team puts into their world. Level 1 seems like a great opportunity to avoid loosing previous efforts on both sides, while allowing great flexibility for things to come.
Putting all characters back to level 1 would put far less pressure to finish all the "high level" areas, and allow the layo2 world time to grow with the same and new characters. This will provide another great opportunity: allowing characters who would have otherwise not interacted an opportunity to adventure together. Character histories would not be lost, and new relationships would be forged.
I also see yet another benefit to resetting characters to level 1; Playing layo2 sooner. With less pressure on the dev team to finish "everything" layo2 could conceivably be released as all immediately required areas are finished. The level 1 wipe also lets players the opportunity to truely discover new areas, ala, "Did you hear the news? A new cave was found near Valensk! And, a new port city was just founded!" From experience, playing in a new growing world, with old history, has always proven to be the most entertaining.
Of course there is also the option of characters trying new paths. Like Ozy taking up the axe as a cleric of Vorax, or Dimmy hitting the books to become a wizard :)
I'm certain the transition to layo2 will not be without its hurdles, and quite frankly, I'm looking forward to all the new and intersting sights, sounds, and characters. I've been here a short time, but the effort I've seen from the layo dev team has been nothing less than astounding!
I'm postive the wipe will be considered carefully by all, but all things considered, a level 1 reset seems to be the friendliest option.
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After a general character wipe, players can still recreate the PCs they had in NWN and restart from level one. So the option of resetting it and a wipe are pretty similar. When the character wipe occured going from LayoBeta to LayoV1, many of the old and ancient characters (Quint Rosewyrn, for example) were remade at level 1.
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So there was a significant time change from LayoBeta to LayoV1?
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Every post by ZeroVega is identical to my own thoughts on this. From a personal level, and throw rocks at me if you will, the immersion, overall experience and enjoyment of layonara would be reduced rather significantly for me if every (or most) of the players were allowed to start the exact layonara PC they've had from lvl 1 again. I'd just prefer the wipe/start of brand new characters.
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Deacon - 4/28/2006 2:23 PM
So there was a significant time change from LayoBeta to LayoV1?
I don't believe so in the case of moving from Beta to V1, but I'm not sure about moving to NWN2 since the main plot will probably be wrapped by then. Just speaking from past experience here :)
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do we even know for certain if the characters from NWN will be transferable to NWN2? i mean, if the characters arn't transferable isn't all this argument irrelevent de to the fact that there will have to be a wipe due to characters not being able to load into NWN2?
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When this first came up I was a bit fearful of a character wipe but after thinking about it, I think I agree with Zerovega too, the idea of a complete wipe and starting a fresh new playing field appeals to me a lot more than just "picking up" where we left off.
I also think a complete character wipe would be a lot simpler from a RP stance that the other options, imagine the epics going back to level 1 but keeping all of their histories and achievements, but then they leave Hlint (or wherever the starting city would be) and getting slaughtered by the first group of bugs or goblins they come across, hardly seems like. The only way to counter that is to let certain characters keep levels, but as said before this gives them an unfair advantage from the very outset.
Yes, we will all miss our lovingly crafted characters, but as long as we are all in the same boat im sure most of us will be able to cope with it the loss.
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Thunder Pants - 4/28/2006 5:26 PM do we even know for certain if the characters from NWN will be transferable to NWN2? i mean, if the characters arn't transferable isn't all this argument irrelevent de to the fact that there will have to be a wipe due to characters not being able to load into NWN2?
From what I understand - no, the characters will not be transferrable inthe wayof simply takinga character file and sticking it into the NWN2 folder directory. I don't see any other alternative other than a character wipe unless from a timeline standpoint, the NWN2 version took place immediately (or within a few years) after the NWN1 version. Characters can be transferred to the NWN2 version via the DM by replacing items, exp/lvls (but how much?), using the DM tool following identical creation of the NWN2 version of the character. (In other words - creating the character from scratch). This however is bound to stir up a whole host of problems for the DM team - most of which were covered in previous posts. Again, I really don't see any other way but a wipe. From a logical standpoint I think the argument of keeping one's characters is flawed, but the idea itself isn't irrelevant and is certainly important to other players. (and yep - I know you weren't insinuating otherwise).
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i understand how important our characters are to us, to to think the DMs are going level up and reequip each and every character on the server is rediculous, it's simply too many man hours to do something like that, as there are literaly hundreds and players, and several of them haver multiple characters, even at 10 minutes per character (which is being light) your looking at weeks worth of straight DM work of simply bringing characters to the point of where they were before
not to mention the fact that then there is a slew of issue with players perhaps not being entirerly honest or making mistakes, really if the character files can't be transfered over then there is no agument, there will have to be a character wipe
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I for one hope that the next chapter in the plot takes place far enough down the line that all the characters are dust. I'd like to see a totally clean slate. Stories would exist, even books of our characters... but in the past.
And that's coming from someone with a lot of attatchement to his character.
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I have very serious doubts that the plot will continue where it broke off
Why's that? World consistency above all, Ar7 :)
I have a lot to say, but it all boils down to a very short sentence:
We're in good hands.
Thank you, comments like this make my day!
I just hope the next manual isn't 800 pages long.
If I have anything to do with it, it could be. Oh wait, I do :)
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I just hope the next manual isn't 800 pages long.
If I have anything to do with it, it could be. Oh wait, I do :)
I agree,it should notbe 800 pages long,itshould be2000 pages :)
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I didn't mean it that way Ed. What I wanted to say was that I have doubts that it's the 3rd January 1380 when NWN ends and 4th January 1380 when NWN2 picks up. This is only my assumption though and this guess is as good as any other :)
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I agree, it should not be 800 pages long, it should be 2000 pages
*groans*
Alright, I'll read it... As long as Freldo can contribute with a line or two. :D
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It wouldn't be too bad.. I mean.. it took me almost 6 months to get to level 12.. so that would kinda stink... but I like RPing more than gaining levels which is why I'm here. If we did have to wipe.. it wouldn't be so bad because we're all in it together. :D
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Though I've skipped over most of this thread (It's late, I'm tired), I feel there are really only two ways that this can be accomplished, and both depend on plot.
If the plot continues right where it leaves off, keep the characters. It makes very little sense for everyone to suddenly be dropped back down to the abilities they had when they were new-summoned. I mean, really, Pyyran would likely pick on Ozymandias just because he could, if for no other reason. I'd put in some heavy hours to make sure he had the levels to manage it, too. Really, unless there's some cataclysmic event that involves the Dragon that summoned us all, there's no reason for everyone to suddenly be level 1. If we had a wipe... Well, perhaps the Dragon took all the chars to some other plane; who knows?
If the plot starts a goodly time after the current plot, then the characters should all be wiped or dropped to level 1 (with the idea that they were reincarnated, though I don't think that fits L's style). Epics would either be NPCified (something I personally find more reasonable than this next) or reincarnated with the rest.
Myself... The two things I like best are either a continuation with as few changes as possible, or a total change, all the way, with old remnants of our PCs scattered across the world.
That said, if there ARE remnants, I would like to be one of the first to request that there be a Rahth family somewhere in Hamp. *Whistles innocently.*
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Stephen,
You actually hit on a point that I was contemplating. The reasoning behind why all characters would continue on as lvl 1 into the new game. Before I get to that, I'd first like to hit on the options that I think are currently fair for NWN2/layo2 (no particular order).
So far I had considered three reasonable options:
1. Transfering old characters in full to the new game, sans crafting abilities. Limiting this to one char each to reduce dev time, and done also only on request (so no instant - poof - your there).
2. Complete wipe - everything is new and fresh - likely starting on a new continent etc. E.g. South point instead of Hlint. I like the idea of traces of the old characters being left behind, perhaps even the characters themselves.
3. Same character name and history, new life as a level 1. Caused by some soul wrenching event perhaps where the Dream Dragon calls on everyone to seal some great evil/stop blood's last backup plan etc. Or you wake up in bed, knowing your history, but the Dream Dragon had to fight blood on another plane, that you had been dreaming that whole time, but that Dream ultimately had a visible effect on the world.
After having reviewed all the options, I must admit that I am forlornly leaning to option 2, and holding out hope for option 1. Some points were brought up that I now feel that option 3 is really nothing more than the pollution of option 1&2 combined, though I admit it is a viable and interesting alternative. I certainly want to continue my character(s) more than anything, and would love dearly to see them moved into nwn2 in all its glory, even if I would have to restart. Especially after I've seen potential visions of what point harbor and others may become.
Mark me down for an all or nothing special :)
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It wouldnt seem fair to allow a few pc's to survive and the rest not, so a wipe is unavoidable.
As i see it, it would be fairly hard to implement the character over the new ruleset and major changes to the gameplay itself.
So really it is simple *Shrugs*.
I Will be especially sad to see Sabrissia pass on before she has reached her full potential but hey thats life.
However i think it would be much more fun to start new, since it is a new game as such.
Not exackly just a graphics overhaul if you know what i mean, lots of changes to one's build in most classes.
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It seems everything has been said. From looking above - I would agree with ZeroVega
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Weee! TWO people agree with me. On a roll now...
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I do aswell :D
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I voted for a full wipe. I think it should be far enough in the future to ensure the death of every character has come and gone, adventurers have thwarted any liches' attempts at immortality by then, and the most epic of the heroes and places are now legends and spots on a map. At the very least anyone who could potentially still be alive in the new world are simply NPCs.
If people are allowed to recreate their same character from level one, what is the point of wiping them in the first place? The second incarnation of Layo should be an opportunity to start over completely fresh.