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Robbo

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    Prestige Classes for monks
    « on: July 07, 2005, 08:00:00 am »
    Can any one advise me of any prestige classes that are open to monk class characters, I have been looking at sacred fist but it would appear that you have to be cleric based for spell use.
    This does not apply yet, but just being curios.

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    General_Ski

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      RE: Prestige Classes for monks
      « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2005, 08:03:00 am »
      Monks don't really need a prestige class.. I mean face it.. It's not a multiclassable class. You get bonuses throughout character development, which are not exactly tradeofable. But if you so insist, you could possibly multi class into shadow dancer fairly easily, as well as into dwarven defender if your monk is a dwarf. Arcane archer is not exactly monks bowl of soup. Weapon master is useless for a monk, unless kama or kukri, although kukri offers an interesting possibility, but not for as much for a  monk, as for a dual wield combat type...  Champion of a God, perhaps, but tradeoffs are too great.... I am not mentioning RDD, it's restricted on this server and will look like a power build anyhow. Assassin and Black Guard are out, as well as champions of evil gods, since you will have a very hard time rpiing into that.
       

      dfiremann

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        RE: Prestige Classes for monks
        « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 08:44:00 am »
        Have you looked at Sacred Fist???
         

        General_Ski

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          RE: Prestige Classes for monks
          « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 10:10:00 am »
          Sacred fist is for those who do not want to be monks, thus be forced to be pure class.. Therefore as a paladin or cleric. But come on at monk level 20, you will have your fists as +5 weapons. That is why there is such a hard restriction on monks in Layonara. Because monks are the ultimate armor/ damage reduction penetrators. So there will be nothing invulnerable to their attack.
           

          Trip1888

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          RE: Prestige Classes for monks
          « Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 04:37:00 pm »
          *grins*  The only problem is getting to level 20.  Its some slow work, but I love every minute with my monk!
           

          Talan Va'lash

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          « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 09:35:00 pm »
          I've never tried it but I bet you could make a mean monk/rogue/shadowdancer
           

          regnus

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          « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2005, 04:56:00 am »
          I thought about that but once you leave the monk class you are done with it.  So you would have to find a good stopping point as a monk before changing classes.  With the 5 by 20 rule that would leave you at lvl10 monk which to me isnt worth it.  Unless you take the rogue/SD levels as epic.  I think that would be rather difficult though.
           

          Frendh

          RE: Prestige Classes for monks
          « Reply #7 on: July 08, 2005, 09:48:00 am »
          Can you get +5 fists with a monk at lvl 20?
           

          vgn

          RE: Prestige Classes for monks
          « Reply #8 on: July 08, 2005, 11:03:00 am »
          Level 24 is the soonest you can get +5 fists and that is if you took Improved Ki at both 21 and 24.
           

          General_Ski

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            RE: Prestige Classes for monks
            « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2005, 11:11:00 am »
            Yeah sorry.. My mistake about accuracy of when one gets a +5. Anyhow, it proves it even more it makes more sense to go monk all the way... And if your monk is wis/str based, with a decent starting dex. Watchout bogies..
             

            steverimmer

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            « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2005, 11:33:00 am »
            *sighs* I always wanted to make a goblin monk...but alas they have to be chaotic :(
             

            General_Ski

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              RE: Prestige Classes for monks
              « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2005, 12:16:00 pm »
              Halfling monks are the best. Goblin wizards on the other hand... or Kobold shadow dancers...
               

              CalmChaos

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                RE: Prestige Classes for monks
                « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2005, 04:16:00 pm »
                I love building a Rouge/Monk/Shadowdancer. I will have to alter some things to conform to the rules on this server but the RP possiblities are with this combnation are endless.

                Let me know if you need any help :)
                 

                General_Ski

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                  RE: Prestige Classes for monks
                  « Reply #13 on: July 08, 2005, 04:24:00 pm »
                  I just fail to see how a weakened monk plays into this... Especially since you can't progress as monk once you stop. You most likely have to rp really well the reasining from lawful shift of monk, into rogue and then shadow dancer other than attempting powerbuild of sorts.. With various skills. Also I see no point in taking shadow dancer, unless you are going for hide in plain sight,  since regular rogue abilities cover enough groung on that. Also summoning shadow and shadow lord, which are a version of undead, of sorts is bound to shif t you at least to true neutral. Most likely drastically shifts your alignment, should be interesting to see what makes for such a drastic shift along alignment spectrum.
                   

                  Robbo

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                    RE: Prestige Classes for monks
                    « Reply #14 on: July 10, 2005, 02:19:00 am »
                    Well thanks for the advice guys, lookks like it's pure monk all the way, if i survive that is.
                    Thanks fo the input,

                    Robbo aka Tagar Ironhelm
                     

                    Chrys Ellis

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                      RE: Prestige Classes for monks
                      « Reply #15 on: September 02, 2005, 04:24:00 pm »
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                      General_Ski - 7/8/2005 12:16 PM Halfling monks are the best...

                          The problem with halfling monks is they take the lesser of the unarmed strike damage, which is 2D6, I believe, at the highest levels.  Normal sized monks get 1D20 per attack with their fists, which is important since fists are not buffable the way other weapons are.
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                      feniox

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                      « Reply #16 on: September 02, 2005, 04:34:00 pm »
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                      steverimmer - 7/8/2005  11:33 AM

                      *sighs* I always wanted to make a goblin monk...but alas they have to be chaotic :(


                      Same reason I couldn't make a goblin paladin like I wanted to. What a pair they could have been! :)
                       

                      Vincent

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                        RE: Prestige Classes for monks
                        « Reply #17 on: September 02, 2005, 04:45:00 pm »
                        It would be really nice if there was a warrior monk prestige class, as in a monk class that was otherwise the same but could use martial weapons (perhaps without the unarmed BAB).  [My current character concept.]

                        It's sort of a personal peeve that the NWN monks aren't smart enough to use weapons unless they're obscure and nobody else uses them.
                         

                        feniox

                        RE: Prestige Classes for monks
                        « Reply #18 on: September 02, 2005, 05:12:00 pm »
                        I dont think its that they arent intelligent enough for weapons (even orcs and the like use weapons!) but more that they shun them, believing that the body is the only true weapon that a warrior needs, or something along those lines. Although I do agree, that it'd be nice to have a monk that could use a weapon, as effectively as their obscure/unarmed attacks.
                         

                        Diamondedge

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                        « Reply #19 on: September 02, 2005, 05:44:00 pm »
                        It's true. A monk's strict training to become one with the body leaves him only capable of using the weapons used in training sessions as 'dangers'. Look at it this way. The kukri's, Kamas, all of those, could represent some form of, say, 'sword' thing. And thus the monk would learn how to defend himself against a sword, although the weapon used would be traditionally based. Over eons, monastic orders set into the same tradition streak as conservative clergymen, doing things as they've always been done, BECAUSE they've always been done.

                        Quarterstaff could symbolize a less-dangerous pole arm, for instance. And of course, monks learn to use these things that they might aid other monks of their monastary in the training.

                        I dunno, just an idea I'm flinging out at you guys violently. *fling* *violence*