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The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: KageKeeper on July 12, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
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I just feel I need to say this. I am surprised at how many people walk by a wemic in their midsts and do not say a darn thing or react in any way.
This just baffles me. These have not been seen around Hlint. Most characters would not have seen one before, yet a half lion/half man is walking around and most think nothing of it.
If a dragon were to suddenly appear, would the same thing occur?
*shakes head sadly*
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Heh, I had a grand time earlier today playing the extremely afraid hafling running away from the "Lion Man". Twas a grand time!
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Karyth would scream out his little lungs
but unfortunately
hes in jail for breaking and entering and attempted assassination :o
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KageKeeper - 7/12/2005 5:25 PM
If a dragon were to suddenly appear, would the same thing occur?
*shakes head sadly*
Hmmm...one way to find out... *wicked GM grin*
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hee hee hee
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When one passed by recently, I was trading with Talan. I asked what it was, and he said it was probably just a summon gone awry. With all the crazy things people can summon, it wouldn't be surprising to see just about anything around town at some point.
Dragons, though, have a way of getting right down to business when they come to town, so you don't really get a chance to ignore them.
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You'd be surprised what creatures walk around on the plane of Ysgard where Gaunt is from :)
But indeed ... some people should RP a little more "fear of the unknown"
Gaunt is baffled by the Half-Giants though
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Jacchri was on the hunter's quest and saw the first lionman (wemic).
When I was walking to the bank one night I saw Tai and was very exited. I RP a bit and did some information feedback to the group, but alas I could not spend anymore time. Since then I had not the opportunity to spend any time with Tai, but would love to.
And yes people are very complacent about unknown creatures in Hlint. I nearly attacked a spider the other day in Hlint, just at the last moment to realise it was Vindel morphed into a spider. The same happened when I saw an orc the other day, I was very aggresive towards it till it was RP that he was actually from a another tribe that has not been corrupted.
I agree with you that people should RP creatures and characters the arrives in Hlint. Same as people RP against drow, the same should apply to half-gaints, goblins, orcs, wemic or any other character that is usually not found in Hlint (see population of Hlint, extracted from the forums, for characters that are uncommon in Hlint).
"Population: 1,830 (60% Human, 15% Halfling, 10% Dwarf, 5% Half-Orc, 5% Gnome, 5% Elf) "
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..hehe lately 95% drow for adventurers......
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Admittedly I am one of those who has not RPed meeting a wemic as something unusual. Got too used to playing on another PW where wemics have become a norm and forgot it is not the case here. *slaps head* On another hand I have seen so many drow here that I am no longer sure how to react to them. On that same other world a dark-skinned elf would be kill-on-sight. :)
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We tested the dragon thing earlyer - Hlintites are just to jaded, and desensitised to weirdness. Even the actual hlint resedents are now very used to it. I would not be supprised if a pit fiend walked thru town and no one batted an eyelash when he asked where he could find an inn or if they wanted to join him in goblin bashing..I really wouldn't be supprised at all if that happened and no one cared.
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hehe.....you are right Ozy.....perhaps some surprise attack on Hlint will wake em up...
I think I was there when the two red dragons appeared....I was in awe....could not move actually...did not know what to do either....*grins*
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=200&photoid=3113
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Yes, I think it was my first or second day here when I saw the two dragons. Was not sure if it was "normal" or not, so I just tried to stay at a distance and watch how others react. Everything seemed to be quite peaceful. :)
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I agree that these things should apply to all races, the Drow thing has particularly gotten to me recently. As I mentioned in another post a few weeks ago, when I started here the drow numbers were relatively low, and everytime you went around without a helmet or hood you would get set on by people. Now they seem to have been accepted in society, nobody fears them, and only the odd one or two bother to show their faces. The amount of them has not helped matters, and I have since given up playing both my Drow characters, mainly because they aren't "special" in the way they were before.
When I play I try to act like this to all non-standard races I see, with the exception of half-ogres, who all seem too nice to be aggressive with :) but any orcs, Drow, goblins etc that come by will catch an earful still, you just need to ask suliss (is that the right name?), as she has been feeling the brunt of my Dwarven pride for the last week or so :)
I think one of the problems regarding the Wemic in particular though is the language barrier, I like the fact they can't speak common, and I know there is good reason for that, but I think a lot of players who might not be on for very long, or just have short attention spans will get frustrated spending most of their time trying to communicate basic things such as their names. I've seen it before, when I was on a quest with Nith'wiel (again, spelling might be wrong) and a few months ago a character called Lindell.
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I agree with you Feniox. There are so many drow in and around Hlint now that you might as well act skeptical of everone over 5 foot tall and wearing a helmet. In my opinion, that subrace has sort of lost its speciality. Yet people continue to show up with new ones.
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Drow are so popular because of their special abilities, spell resistance, darkness ja +2int +2cha is quite hard to resist, especially since the ECL is only 2
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Fools! Fear the Drows!
And the Wermics too. One of the fun things about playing a subrace is when people react to them or else I could just chosen an elf. I chose a Drow because I thought it would open up more fun RP opportunitys. I were a hood mostly of course so not anyone see that I'm a Drow, but sometimes when I when I dont have a hood people just dont care that I'm a Drow.
I demand that you hate me when you see that I'm a Drow! Of corse it's common whit Drows now, like you said before, so people might not fear them, but you should still not trust the Drows because nearly everyone should had heard rummors or stories on how treacherous they are.
I see now that I might have slipt of the topic a little. But if you see a wermic for the first time either you run away in fear, prepare for battle like you would have done to any other monster(Even if you wont get to attack it) or go up to it and start talk whit it.
And remember! Fear the Drows!
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All I gotta say is drow stink! I used to play my character as hating drow, but then I kept getting harassed by the 5 other players keeping the drow company saying, 'You shouldn't judge,' blah,blah blah. So now I just ignore drow with Waha.
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I saw a weremin walk by me in hlint the other day, and choose the wiser course... to do nothing. Just because someone does not act, does not mean they are unafraid. To talk to it could set off a fight I could not win.
That said, I saw a dragon walking back and forth outside hlint the other day. Back and forth, and back and forth. Something about this dragon seemed friendlier somehow, so I followed, trying to talk to it, saying I had not seen a dragon before, etc. The dragon was annoyed with me and finally said "Beat it." I did.
Hold my tongue with a weremic, gabber on with a dragon ... yeah, this doesn't make sense, but it's RP'ing my character. Also at first sight, weremics are kind of an abomination of nature ... seems like unnatural magic. Dragons are breathtaking, and my curiousity got the best of me.
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*sighs* I play a drow, and have played him since October. From the begining I knew I'd get resistance, and boy did I. I'd say two outta every three characters (still low mind you) either walked off, insulted me, threatened me, or kicked me out. It was a blast! The only people I know who still carry major hatred are "some" dwarves (Kobal and Harg, we love you guys), some deep gnomes (only one really), and some elves.
Hmm.... *has an idea*
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and a couple halflings Zero (Lue and Tribs both hate drow)
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I agree that seeing a wemic would be shocking and fun to RP as well as a goblin, orc, or drow. I've had a run in with a drow and snub the PC. I've also snubbed a Teifling since I am an Aasimar. As long as no one takes offense, I find it enjoyable RP and found it quite funny to have the drow giving me crap for not wanting to trust them.
As for the Half giant, I am confused. The creature they use to depict a half giant does not at all meet the description in the players guide that says they can be mistaken for large barbarians and are raised in either giant or human culture. Does this not make them uncommon yet accepted? I wouldn't let the troll like creature affect your judgement based on the guide description, though would agree that some isolated type character races may not have seen them still ... and all (typically) dwarves hate giants ...
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Personally, my character finds half-giants to be some of the friendliest humanoids in Hlint. Now dwarves ... give me a drow any day over a dwarf.
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I just posted on the "drow thread"....
But yeah, I have only been at Layo for a few weeks now, and drow are just an accepted norm.
I had no idea how many there were. I applied for a wemic on the 10th, and I am just patiently waiting for a reply. If that submission fails, I'll just pick something else and start a new submission.
I guess it's disappointing, because I really enjoy Ayreon's history. I guess it's fairly unique, but I don't know how much time I want to spend on a "special" subrace that isn't special anymore??
Maybe we could ask the team not to accept any drow for a little while? Just until the numbers die down...i dunno...just throwing around ideas.
There's my two cents.
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I don't think it strange if most adventurers
do not react noticably when a new creature
appears.
You become quite hardened quite fast. And
that's not strange if you begin counting
every creature you met on your explorations
on West only. Add to that Central and East,
then the variety of different creatures become
immense.
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And I very much do not agree with that.
If I am out bashing bad guys and I see something I have never seen once we are done I ask questions.
If I am in town and a *huge* lion beast walks down the street, I am sorry but that *should* get attention. This is not the wilds, this is in the niddle of town.
Again, just my opinion,
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well, cole has heard of wemics from some travelling buddies. When I saw you I hid and followed. You couldn't find the gate to the wall. I then followed you to the camp fire, where you rested. Do wemics like fire? Then I stepped out from befind the tree I was hiding behind and tried to communicate. Was pretty fun. But Luna was needed elsewhere and you logged your wemic :(
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I had allot of fun meeting Tai for the first time, was a bit of a chore learning to communicate with you though. And then leading a half blind wemic around by the hand and figuring out ways for you to see with out having to hold your hand, geesh. I still think I should train you a seeing eye dog. But Ael views the Wemics are much like a elfling. Your half animal half humanoid. SO as a ranger she wants to protect the wemics and help them adapt at leat to an extent she would be teaching you any human ways. Those vile money grubbing, lying, cheating, nature defiling short lived.. Oh I'm sorry what was I saying? Oh yeah help the wemics adapt. And maybe teach them common or elvish or at the very least the language of animals.
Seh'Spar I took a much more academic view on them. OH yeah a wemic I heard stories about them, their in town peopel all around them no one being mauled or eaten. They must be friendly now where was that note book and why do those halflings keep looking and pointing? Do they think I have all day to show them around Hlint I told them its called a wemic and it is friendly what more do they want?
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*Alanna tugs on Seh'Spar's robes, her eyes wide*
"But look! It's like a big kitty-person! I love kitties!"
By the way, thanks for tour, Xerina! The 3 of us hobbits enjoyed it quite a bit!
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http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15337&posts=3
"I am sorry. Wemics are brand new to PC's and as such I am not willing to allow for others traveling with them for a period of time before they are "discovered". Please change that part of the submission--most likely drop the whole wemic connection and we will review it again.
If this is submitted in about 6 months or so (RL) it would probably be approved since Wemics will be ingrained in to the community by then."
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Just as a side note, I wanted to point out that wemics are supposed to be brand new to PC's...just incase people start getting outrageous notions of having wemic cousins, or sisters or something =P. haha
I just wanted to mention this because a lot of people seemed to have a lot of prior knowledge about the race in game...and I'm sure it's because they have met Tai or someone. I guess this for everyone else's sake.
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SeaWraith - 7/14/2005 6:36 AM
*Alanna tugs on Seh'Spar's robes, her eyes wide*
"But look! It's like a big kitty-person! I love kitties!"
By the way, thanks for tour, Xerina! The 3 of us hobbits enjoyed it quite a bit!
Aye we did! Thanks again to everyone we met. It was quite an amazing sight to see Wimecs my first time in town! :)
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Daeron never even saw elves before he came to Layonara, let alone wemics. He thinks they're some kind of magical attraction from an upcoming magefair in Hlint.:)
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I thought alot of people played their first encounter really well while I was on - particularly this aggressive half giant.
As for the drow...why so many people want to play them baffles me. But they seem to be the same people who like Forgotten Realms books and why anyone wants to read that drivel baffles me even more.
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well the day you where in Hlint Trenton watched from a distance I tryed to ask questions to many where gathered around you. so Trenton stayed and made sure the peace was kept.
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Quin saw his first Wemic while walking out of the craft house ... and the two of them had a bit of an old western stile standoff with staring at each other until Tai-Shar introduced himself.
I think that a good number of the more experienced adventurers are confident enough in their own abilities to not be frightend of such a creature .... though I would expect the common townspeople to react viciously
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Anyone got an epid druid?
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"I just feel I need to say this. I am surprised at how many people walk by a wemic in their midsts and do not say a darn thing or react in any way.
This just baffles me. These have not been seen around Hlint. Most characters would not have seen one before, yet a half lion/half man is walking around and most think nothing of it.
If a dragon were to suddenly appear, would the same thing occur?
*shakes head sadly*"
Anyone got an epid druid?
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That question doesnt really pertain to this thread.
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I believe that the suggestion is that someone use Dragon shapechange in the middle of town to get a reaction.
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When Turor saw his first wemic, his reaction wasn't surprise or worry, or any of that.
It was hunger! And I think Acacea was there to clarify that he almost ate a wemic. "Woonder ehf eht'd test loik biff or checkin'..."
"You better not! The cat might eat you instead!"