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Title: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: ZeroVega on July 13, 2005, 03:08:00 PM
  Yeah, title says it, but it'll only be for a little while. This Friday my family's heading to the beach, we'll be back late Saturday and I'll have enough time to finish planning my quest on Sunday.
    Then starting monday the 18th I have a Highschool Police Academy that lasts until the 23rd. Meaning that from 8AM to 5PM I won't be home or have access to a computer.
    Sakura I'll still try and make your quest on Wednesday, assuming I can shovel down food and take a shower before it starts, however I'll be running no quests, and probably won't be playing much in between that time.
    I'll still try and approve characters but only in the evenings (and not at all on Friday/Saturday. Hmm.... yeah that's it.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Marswipp on July 13, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Have fun!
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Leanthar on July 13, 2005, 03:31:00 PM
Have fun, good luck on the academy thing.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: cptoad on July 13, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
have fun

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Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: SeaWraith on July 13, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
Egads! Now who am I going to pester with inane newbie questions?

:-)

Have fun ZV!
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Zhofe on July 13, 2005, 03:45:00 PM
Feel free to pester me with the inane newbie questions.

Have fun ZV, hope the withdrawl doesn't set in too bad. If you start shaking just try and read through CNR recipies in your head.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: regnus on July 13, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
Have fun and good luck.  

And thanks for the compliment on the hat :)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 13, 2005, 08:44:00 PM
If you find yourself going through the academy and you have the option of gettng pepper sprayed in the face or not, turn it down.  Even if everyone else is doing it and you feel pressured to do it.  Dont do it.  I went through the acadmey after college and that stuff burns your eyes like you cant believe.  Literally the only way you can see is to grab you eyelids and pry them open.  The stuff does not wash off either it has to denature.  For god's sake man, dont do it.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: RouterBlade on July 13, 2005, 08:50:00 PM
aww man
see ya fer now ZV
get back as soon as possible! :(
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Trip1888 on July 14, 2005, 12:31:00 AM
Have fun ZV!  No pepper spray!  For real man!  Trust Gunther!

edit-typo
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: steverimmer on July 14, 2005, 02:08:00 AM
*grins* have a great time Zero....ahhh the beach its been a decade since I've seen a beach were the sea temp was above -275 deg C as it is in this country all year round :)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: ZeroVega on July 14, 2005, 04:00:00 PM
 As of this point, I'm off. You'll not hear from me until Saturday, which is when I'll start approving characters again. (So it's Steve, Rev, and Ice's territory till then)
   When I get back I'll work double hard Saturday night and Sunday after which from Mon-Friday I'll only have an hour or so a day to do thinks (aside from Sakura's quest). Take care folks. *wonders how they'll live without me*
  ((And to those of you that I've crashed on.... sorry. Mainly those on last nights quest, Remy, and Agustus))
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: ZeroVega on July 18, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Day #1.
    We started out by being briefed and told the rules of the Academy (40 highschool kids there). We headed over to the courses, High Ropes, and Obstacle courses. For about three hours, half of us climbed latters, walked across wires, and repelled down thirty foot walls while the rest did the obstacle course.
    We broke for lunch and afterwards proceeded back to the other course where we had to show balance, strength, critical thinking skills, and teamwork. We were then had a physical evaluation and PT.
    I only sat for 30 minutes all day (until now) and my arms feel like jello blobs. Fun fun fun, I'll be back and "working" on Friday, for now I may play a bit but that's all. :)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: freemen2 on July 18, 2005, 10:17:00 PM
Keep having fun and luck to you ;)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Shadowblade225 on July 19, 2005, 06:28:00 AM
Have fun Zero and try to enjoy yourself in whatever way you can.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: dfiremann on July 19, 2005, 07:16:00 AM
You know what cops and firemen have in common???
Yeah...they both want to be firemen... :)

Good on ye for checkin it out though...heaven forbid we have a teenager that does not feel like a victim, wants to be a contributing member of society, and is willing to work to do it.  De Opresso Liber!
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: ZeroVega on July 19, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
Day #2
    We start off the day 0800 hours. Head up to the class room and are lectured about the different jobs police officers have. We're taught how to take reports, writen statements, and other procedural things...
    Group 1, heads down to a room ordained the "crime sceen." Group 2 (my group) acts as the first response police officers. Groups 3 and 4 are the detectives. And group 5 was the CSI group. Lucky us, my group got to take the first verbal statements and write several reports as everyone else went about taking the written statements and check the "crime sceen" for finger prints...
    Anywho.... lunch break and it's back up to the class room where we were "graded" on our performance and then lectured by a homocide professional about court procedure (which we did a role playing about, defense lawyes, the prosecution, the judge, wittnesses, and the defendet).... and well homocides. After the trial he proceeded to show us several dozen graphic pictures about homocides and suicides.... let me say this, it was flat out gross....
    We headed down to the locker rooms where we changed and headed to the gym for PT. Half of us were taken on a run down to a place called stonehinge, where we did pullups, dips, pushus, and situps. We then ran back to the gym where we sprinted, did squats, and pushups, and situps....
    I was tired from yesterday but now my arms just won't move and tomorrow is Defense Training.... :o
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 19, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
Dude, you think you're beat now wait til after defense training.  I remember we were doing selfdefense training with the extendable baton and the entire right side of my leg was a coal black bruise afterwards from getting whacked so much.

Maybe you'll get lucky and only have to do spontaneous knife defense training.  Which basically involves pushing the knife wielder and quickly backing away.  Though in reality if you ran into somebody who knew what they were doing with a knife, you'd be a bloody mess and probably unable to do much to defend yourself after about three seconds.  There are cultures out there who train in disabling people with a knife and they cut the tendons in your arm right off, then the neck and/or body, etc.

As for the graphic slide show, ya got my sympathies.  We had a guy from childrens services come in and put on a horror show like that.  People were running out of the room to throw up after five minutes.  I'd give a lot to erase some of that from my mind.

Anyway, good for you if thats what you want do to for a living.  Just know that most cops end up in the mindset that there are two types of people in the world; cops and a$$holes.  You get really bitter and cynical.  Sorry for the somewhat vulgar language but thats how it was put to me when I went through the police academy.  Its not a pretty life by any means.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: ZeroVega on July 20, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
Day #3
  Defensive tactics was three hours in a big padded room from 0800 to 1100. During this times we learned proper stances for defense and offense. We learned how to disarm. We learned simple throws and take downs, break aways, and striking moves. We fought with a baton and my knee is now aching and red (which will later turn black and blue) from being whacked so much.
  We had demonstrations of OC Spray (though no one got sprayed). We had demonstrations of guns (though we didn't get to shoot). And we had demonstrations of Tasers, which we got to shoot at a wooden board covered in tin foil, it was pretty cool.
  We ate a quick lunch and went back for a few more hours of pressure points, ugh.... even got to test em on each other.  >_<
  Then it was PT time.... again. It hit 100 degrees so we stayed inside moving from station to station and this is how it went....
  First you place your fist on the ground as someone does pushups, their chin must touch the ground for it to count.... you do that for 60 seconds, then you do the pushups for 60 seconds (35 my first go, still sore btw). After that you stand one the feet of the people doing situps, then you do the sit ups (60 seconds for both, managed 34 sit-ups). Then you sprint. First line and back, second line and back, first line and back ect.... for 60 seconds. THEN we got the "Thinking Position" (get down on the floor, and place your elbows on the floor.... put your chin in your hands like you're thinking and lift your 'trunk' off the floor with only your elbows and toes touching the ground) and we did that for 60 seconds. Then we went to the punching back where we rotated knee-spears, palm strikes, and elbow strikes for 60 seconds. Then we cralled army style for 60 seconds.... then we did it all again.... two more times!
  Right so at this point we're all wheezing, we got one water break and that was after the first rotation.... tired and being "stretched out" by our instructing officer we're kinda winding down and getting ready to leave. Another officer comes in and here's what went on....
  He handed something to the officer running PT and said something to him. The officer walked back in front of us and told us to get down in pushup position (arms locked out), he said the ladies didn't have to but the men did.... he then paced the line telling us that he found gum on the floor of the men's locker room, and that a witness said he saw a kid do it....
  We sat there in pain for ten minutes before he told us 'down,' so we went down to the point where our noses were almost touching the ground and held that position.  >_<  Still no one confessed. After three minutes he told he men to get up and the ladies to go down and do the same.... he instructed us to prove to him that chivalry is not dead, still no one confessed. Course he let the ladies up after a minute still....
  My arms are about to fall off, my knee's aching, have to wash all my clothes by hand (still gonna make your quest Sakura), and tomorrow we get to meet Bubba for PT.... (Bubba's a big big hill that we get to run up.... it even has it's own song.... ugh!)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Zhofe on July 20, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
I think the question is ...

Are you atleast glad you are doing it? I would say are you having fun, but after all that talk of pain I would think that it isn't very fun at all ... but then again, I am WAY out of shape ...
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Filatus on July 20, 2005, 03:13:00 PM

Way heavier than I would have thought.

By the way, you don't get trained for eating donuts or do you have to pass your exam before they start working on those skills? :)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Fista on July 20, 2005, 03:31:00 PM
:S funny to read this thread, first the "Have fun, good luck" posts... then comes the "this is hell" posts.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gilrod on July 20, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
Well, sounds familar.

If you want to be a police officer, that is pretty much how the academy goes.  The academy is just more intense and way longer.  My police academy was seven months of 12-16 hour days (we went 10 hours of instruction and then 2-6 hours of PT per day).  Granted it was rated the 3rd most difficult academy in the country, but I heard the basic idea is the same.

Good luck on what you decide to do.  Keep your chin-up and remeber, this is still the "romantic" phase.  ;)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: dfiremann on July 20, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
A couple of life experience points for you to ponder and experiment on...

1)  Nothing worthwhile is easy.  Nothing you're going to be proud of yourself for is easy.  Easy is for...well... can't use a word or somebody will chose to be offended.  ("Sissies" came to mind, but somebody will probably not like that) ;)

2)  The mind gives up LONG before the body gives out.

3)  True wisdom almost always comes through pain.

4)  Things almost always turn out to be not as hard as you thought it was going to be.

Head up....back straight....
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 20, 2005, 10:12:00 PM
In the same line, the first day of basic training in the army, our drill sergeant said that we had to keep the reason why we were there foremost in our minds, otherwise we wouldnt make it.  You concentrate on why you're there and you'll be fine.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: ZeroVega on July 21, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
Day #4
  Today we rotated between five stations.
  Station #1: Traffic stops. The first stop my partner and I successfully arested a man for driving drunk and carrying a concealed weapon. My second stop, my partner and I were both shot and killed by drug dealers. ;)
  Station #2: F.A.T.S. Fire Arms Training Simulation. We went through one simulation with a pistol and one with a shot gun. With the pistol I scored 4 critical hits out of ten shots, and all ten hit the target that was "firing" at me. (Didn't get to use the shotgun)
  Station #3: Random Disputes. My group (of 8) paired off into 2s and went in to a dark room to the unkown scenario. It was anything from a domestic dispute, to a stroke victem, to a bank robbery.  During this excercise my partner and I went last, however during the drill of the two who went before us we were called in early because both of them were killed (officer down, bank robbery in progress). :) I was killed with a sucking chest wound and the robber killed seven people total before it was over. So that was a bust...
  Station #4: JRPAT. Sorta like a physical evaluation.
  Run 200 yards
  20 Step-ups
  15 Pushups
  15 Situps
  20 Step-ups
  15 Pushups
  15 Situps
  Run 200 more yards.... have to finish with a time of 6:18 or better, I was happy with my time of 3:49.
  Station #5: Building Searches.... weeeee!
  We were given rubber guns and flashlights and sent into a building that was reported to have a break in. My partner and I (not to be cocky or anything) did a great job. We "cut the pie," kept our guns in close.... he being right handed and I left we searched around the appropriate corners....
  We found our first suspect to be drunk and while my partner was cuffing him we were jumped by someone with a gun.... course I was waiting and keeping an eye out while my partner took care of suspect #1 so we downed the second and secured the building (first team to do so without dying).
  This all took about six hours, we had one hour of lunch then on to PT.... we did a stupid amount of pushups, crunces, and stretching excercises, then went for a run.... first down to the fire tower where we climbed stairs then (and keep in mind we ran in formation) we ran down to Bubba, the big hill.... we ran down Bubba, then back up, then back down, then back up.... then we did more pushups.... Five for our mothers. Five for each instructer present (3), five for each grandmother (according to the instructors everyone had two), five for the armed forces, and five for world peace. ;)
  So our day ended and tomorrow it'll all be over. *cries* We get to do a man-hunt in the morning with our entire class of 40, then a small graduation cerimony, then we'll be told about the explorer police programs (which I intend to join). All in all it's been fun and I'll be back this weekend for some Layo Fun!
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: RouterBlade on July 21, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
woohoo! :)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 21, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
Good job.  When you fire the hand gun, squeeze the trigger, it should almost come as a surprise when it fires.  Master doing that and you'll find that youre excelling at target practice.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: General_Ski on July 21, 2005, 06:02:00 PM
Target practice yeah.. It becomes rather problematic, when targets shoot back.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: RouterBlade on July 21, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
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Gunther - 7/21/2005  8:55 PM

Good job.  When you fire the hand gun, squeeze the trigger, it should almost come as a surprise when it fires.  Master doing that and you'll find that youre excelling at target practice.


yea, you better be surprised when you fire a firearm and not nervous
nervous=hitting everything but the target lol
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 21, 2005, 09:18:00 PM
Actually what will also help a bit is after you squeeze the trigger, hold it back for a second and then let it go forward.  And work on your breath control as well.  Learn what your dominant eye is.  Lots of little things add up.  Squeeze that trigger though, dont pull it.  Doing well with a handgun is tough at first.  Get good at it and you wont have to worry quite so much about getting hit first.

Shotgun is easy.  Even when they give you three seconds to hit three targets, its still easy.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: General_Ski on July 21, 2005, 09:24:00 PM
Hey as long as it ain't raining.. Now try hitting a target 500 yards away in a downpour... That's when you are talking skill:P.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 21, 2005, 09:27:00 PM
huh army only has you hit the three hundred meter target.  Thats the farthest one out.  And with the bad eyesight I had at the time, I could barely tell when the little #$*#$ popped up.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: General_Ski on July 21, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
Well. Next time out try the Marines:)
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: Gunther on July 21, 2005, 09:35:00 PM
Thanks anyway.  I'm a bit too old and have been out way too long to try the military again.  Nine years was enough for me.  Besides you know why the Navy has Marines on board their ships.  Sheep would be too obvious.

Just kiddin man, I have a world of respect for anybody that served, whatever the branch.  Except maybe air force.  I just feel beholden to give a marine a hard time.
Title: RE: Leaving/Won't Be On As Much
Post by: General_Ski on July 21, 2005, 09:40:00 PM
:) Well those pararescuers/PJs who jump after downed pilots have to have a pair of brass ones... So not all airforce is that bad. Plus 9 out of 10 times I hear you have to max their physical fitness test just to get in: http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Smith_111303,00.html

The run is ain't that hard, neither are pullups, push-ups and flutter kicks, but man a 1000 yard swim, can be a pain. And then the MOS schools they have to go through after that initial training aren't the easiest in the military. Basically they get brought up to speed with the rest of the armed forces:P.
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