The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: teefal on July 13, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
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How do *you* pronounce the locations, people, and objects in Layonara?
For example:
Mistone - mist-own, or my-stone, or mistoney
I'm sure many words are pronounced many ways ... let's see how varied we are outside of our text only realm.
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Pretty sure the mistone one at least has been brought up before, the correct pronunciation was mis-Tone i believe.
I was just thinking of making this post yesterday to ask about a few pronunciation questions I had :P you win.
Katia:
kah-Tia
or
Kat-eeya
Aragen:
Ara-jen
or
ara-Ghen
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All I know is that a list that is a sticky would be nice...
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For that matter, just something to add to detail/immersion might be a phoenetic spelling after all the deities and locales. Yes that'd be a bunch of work, but it does add to immersion a bit. Maybe it could be done gradually over time. Also, maybe ask each newly submitted character to adda phoenetic spelling to their name.
I've thought of this a few times, but never really brought it up, I'm glad you did.
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Mistone = Mis Tone Katia = Kah Tia Aragen = Air a jen
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Is the Tia part of Katia pronounced Tee-a or Sha?
*shakes fist at multiple spellings for a given sound, and multiple sounds for a given spelling*
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Tee-a
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Aasimar... ass-eh-mar? Ay-seh-mar?
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Svirfneblin: zverf-knee-blin?
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Cel-Gar
Woot!
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Sin'Dolin
Sin-Dough-Lynn
lol
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Why do you guys need to know that? It's not like you walk in a store and have to you Mistone, you just type type type the names in the game.
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Actually Ar7, when Ice comes and visits me we often notice we pronounce things differently. There are others here who have friends and family who play together, sometimes clarifying the proper pronounciation would be helpful to know how it was originally intended to be said.
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Hmm, I did think of that possibility, but I discarded it. Mostly because when in real life I talk with my friend we pronounce things the same way...all of them heh :)
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hmm. My friends and I rarely pronounce things the same. Makes it kind of fun.
For example: Regnus pronounces Dregar as Dree-Ger and I pronounce it as Druh-gar.
We both still think of it as the place where we are likely to die a lot :)
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Andrios - 7/14/2005 2:59 PM We both still think of it as the place where we are likely to die a lot :)
hehe.. only if you Follow Owen or Lalaith there..
as for pronounciation.. you should really here some of the words I come up with when I don't know how to pronounce somthing. heh.. I think it even drives Talan insane at times.. *grins*
LV
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dregar: dree-gur? druh-gar? dray-garh?
(i was saying dray-garh)
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wemic?
wee mik
wem ik
i like wem ik.
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Lalaith Va'lash - 7/14/2005 2:49 PM Andrios - 7/14/2005 2:59 PM We both still think of it as the place where we are likely to die a lot :)
hehe.. only if you Follow Owen or Lalaith there..
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Generally one "e" is an "eh" sound while two makes the "ee" sound like in "tree" or "flee"
So Dregar should be Dreh-gar
and Wemic should be Weh-mic
Just like elm is pronounced "ehlm" not "eelm" and helm is Helm not "Heelm"
Edit: L, thanks for the Katia pronunciation... I'd been calling her Kat-ia as in the animal hehe
Edit part deux: And Svirfneblin should be Svirf-nehb-lin, no ee sounds in it
Edit.. um three (sheesh): I pronounce Aasimar like this Aa-sim-are (the first syllabal like the A sound that starts the word Apple, sim as in sim city, are as in the word are.)
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That's true Talan, except in words like:
theme
prefix
recall
and so forth. :)
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Tathnolu = Tach-(like Bach)-no-loo
Tath = Ta-th
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Good point dorganath!
Man, english is a screwed up language... can I get just a bit of consistancy here! bah.
Edit: Acctually, thinking back to kindergarten... I think "re" is treated as its own sound, therefore getting around the one e=eh convention, as in prefix and recall... cant think of any reason for theme though.
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Theme ends with a silent E. A silent E signals that the previous vowel should be pronounced long rather than short. Thus theme is theem, not thehm.
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haHa! We're getting this language here figured out!
so, in light of this new information my previous pronunciations stand... Funny how we often intuitively know how the language works, but havent a clue why.
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what about Dray-gar or Dray-ger...that's how I say it.
Reh-mee Zeh-fir
woot! to you Cel-gar!
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Rayenoir
Ray-no-wahr
(the name was made way back when I was still taking high school french)
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Lee-ah *chuckles then sees all the tomatoes flying his way* Gah!! Its only a little joke! *runs away*
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Rayenoir - 7/14/2005 5:10 PM
Rayenoir
Ray-no-wahr
(the name was made way back when I was still taking high school french)
...I was supsicious of a french pronuciation here, that's how I always thought of it, hehe.
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drow: rhymes with plow, or rhymes with snow?
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It rhymes better with "plow".
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or 'now'
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what about mannzoberranzan, i thank it is somthing like Man'zo'ber'an'zan or maby Manzo'berran'zan idk what you thank... and what about drizzt...is it like dits? but with an ar.. so drits? or maby drizzz'ta, bah.
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phonetically speaking, it wouldn't be "drits" unless the z's came after the t. As I read it, it's pronounced "drizz-it"
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"Drizzit" is what he is called by people who do not like him very much.
According to the BGII manual, it is said "drisst."
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Everybody is divided on this issue. Not even Salvatore is very clear. I think he says it goes either way.
In one of his anthologous books all encompasing a trilogy, he speaks about his wife trying to pronounce/spell his name.
"Drizz-it" she said.
"No, Drizzt" came my reply.
Or something like that.
I personally argue that it's pronounced Drizz-it.
Turor Sunderstone is pronounced: Ahem...
T-you-roar Sun-Dahr-Stoah-n
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I don't think it's "drizzit", because in the books, when people pronounce it that way, it's spelled that way.
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Its Drisst. In the introduction to one of the books he tells the story of how he came up with the idea for the character excerpt:
Salvatore: Drizzt Do'Urden of house Daermon Na'chezberenon, third house of Menzoberanzan.
Publishing Agent: ... Can you spell that?
Salvatore: Not a chance.
Publishing Agent: so... Drizzit?
He then goes back from the quote saying that he corrected her, for the first of the millions of times hes corrected people pronunciations since the books came out. He did not, however, provide a correct phonetic pronunciation, but he thouroughly implied that Drizzit was incorrect.
I believe it is Drisst or Drist (i think both those spellings sound the same anyway.)
And I believe that Menzoberanzan is Men-zo-bear-an-zan. In both of the last syllables the a's are pronounced as the "a" in "and", and bear as in the animal.
But... lets get back to Layo pronunciations.
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*thinks for a little while*
Aasimar : Ayahsimar.
A-ah-sehm-ahr. As in 'A as in the letter A, ah as in, say 'Ahhh', sehm as in... shaddup, and ahr as in Gy-AHRRRRRR'
I don't know why, it just seems right. Think it's a word originating from something non-D&Dish, but I'm sure that first A and that second A should both be pronounced.
Lesseee, what else...
Leanthar: I figure it's Lay-ahn-thahr.
What about 'Master Tom'?
Or... OOH! Good one is Druegar... I've always pronounced them 'Drew-egg-ahr'. You know. Drew, like Drew Carry, Egg, like, an egg, and Ahr, as in GY-AAAAHR'
And one that I'm willing to spill blood over...
Talan Valash... Valish... V'lash...
Tay-len Val-ish.
Okay, not really so much willing to spill blood over it, so much as... well, y'know. Figure out what it means. Er, how it's pronounced.
Okay, no more talkee for me. How do YOU pronounce your name, Tay-len?
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Diamondedge - 7/20/2005 12:57 AM
Or... OOH! Good one is Druegar... I've always pronounced them 'Drew-egg-ahr'. You know. Drew, like Drew Carry, Egg, like, an egg, and Ahr, as in GY-AAAAHR'
It's not Druegar, it's Duergar. It comes from the same word that became 'Dwarf', so I'm guessing it would be pronounced DWEHR-ger or something like that. The first syllable sounds like dwell (except with an R sound instead of an L sound), and the last has a hard G, like the baby food Gerber.
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Folian S'pae ... foe-lee-anne spay?
Ilsare ... ill-sahr-ay? (sahr rhymes with bar or far)
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I pronounce Folian S'pae as:
Foe-lee-anne 'S'-pah
Pronounce the 'S' as the letter.
I say it this way because I think it sounds better.
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I'm with teefal on this one.
if it was "S'pa" I'd agree with S-Pah, but the "e" modifies it to Spay
Edit: Thats how I pronounce Ilsare too.
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Gah! just looked at this thread for the first time in a month! Tay-len Valish eeep!
Tal-an (First syllabal the "al" is pronounced as in the name Al, second "an" like the begining of the word "and")
Va'lash (First syllabal - Va as in Valentine Second - Lash as in... um, to lash someone with a whip. note: it is not intended to be associated with the word to which I compare it.)
Aasimar... well, you dont pronounce both A's in Aardvark. Might as well be Ardvark. Think this is the same way.
-TV
Edit - and yes, I thought this post different enough from my first to warrant being posted seperately, rather than added in an edit. hehe
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Mispronoucing things can sometimes be embarassing...
A couple weeks ago I was at lunch with Neil Gaiman, and he asked when the next time the wife and I were going to be going to the US.
I was like... not sure, probably the next time you and Steven Brust do a con together.
I said Brust like it was first spoken to me, B-rust. Like the brown flaky stuff you find on iron.
He said in return... Yes, next time Steven Brust and I do something I'll let you know.
The problem is he said Brust like Brew-st. More like a tall foamy alcoholic beverage than brown flakey stuff.
It was mostly embarassing because Neil's surname always gets mispronounced too, and to mispronounce another author's name in a converstaion to him... was just stoneheaded of me. But I didn't know. I mean, we see these things in print but unless someone gives us a pronounciation key... we're just guessing.
Anyway... the first time I heard Leanthar say Ka-tee-a for Katia.. I was like huh? I still say Ka-shia. I probably always will. And Air-a-jen instead Air-a-gen exploded my head too. A lot of things he said one way I had always said another.
Ta'karsh Blacklung is Ta-Karsh. The Ta part is like Ta-da. And the Karsh part is like Marsh. The shortened version Ta'k, is like Attack. Or a thumb Tack.
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I'll take a stab at some of my weird names of my characters... note that one of them is (Gunther) retired, another is a familiar (Quimby) and the another is a split personality of one gone insane from Corath fog mind warping. (Jarvis). I actually have a slot open for a new Player Character still, so how I'll top these crazy eights, I don't know.
Bjornigar Ironguts- "Bjorn" as in the nordic axe n hammer viking pronounciation... "Eee-gar" Iron and guts are sounded just as one would expect
Farros Galdor- Fay-russ (with a celtic accent to it, kind of like a cross between "russ" and "roose" as in moose, with a very slight tongue roll on the R) Gall as in gallstone, and "Dore" as in "hey, hold that door!"
Lonnarin Rydral- Lawnn Are in and Ri as in "Ni!" followed by Drawl
Rakish Feiwallen- Rah-Kish "Fay-Wall-en"
Jarvis Creed- "Jar-Viss" "Creed" as in "ance Clearwater Revival"
Gunther Ogden- "Goon" as in goonies, "Thur" as in Duur, Og as in log, and den as in "oolright den"
Brilligimble-Gyre Laggerwocky- Brilly Gimble as in "nimble", Gyre as in "Gyroscope" "Lagg-air-wock" as in the hing you cook with, and "eeeeeeeee" said really long and with a doppler effect as he runs past you hasted
The Nefarious Mr.Quimby- easy to pronounce but very hard to look at.
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Tal-an (First syllabal the "al" is pronounced as in the name Al, second "an" like the begining of the word "and")
Va'lash (First syllabal - Va as in Valentine Second - Lash as in... um, to lash someone with a whip. note: it is not intended to be associated with the word to which I compare it.)
Are you sure? That doesn't sound nearly Elven enough to me. I thought it was more like tuh-LAHN vuh-LAHSH. Don't pronounce the uh parts too strongly; they are supposed to be schwa sounds.
And since I've got a new character since this was first posted, I'll add that her name is pronounced jen-AH-ra.
How about Rofirein? My two years of German in high school way back when make the last three letters jump out at me, so I tend to read RO-feer-EIN, where the major stress is on the first syllable, and ein sounds like the ine in mine. Sometimes I see the middle four letters instead, and it looks like ro-FIRE-in. I guess it could even be RO-feer-AIN, last syllable rhyming with rain.
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Aleister is Alice-ter
And I still dont know how to pronounce HLINT. I've argued with Force of Will over that plenty... me saying "Lint" and him being I suspect way off with "Hilnt."
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TA-lan VA-lash or ta-LAN va-LASH... I'll leave that one up to the viewer heh. The emphasis slightly changes the ta and va sounds like you were saying gul. I think I usually think/say it TA-lan va-LASH but I've been thinking about it way too much right now and it all sounds weird to me heh. Especially Rofirein.. esh, I normally know exactly how i pronounce that, but I've thought about it way to much now and cant reproduce it as i normally would. Though I think I lean towards your last option.
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Oholibama
Oh-whole-ee-bah-mah
Har Har Har
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Tiran Tentoes. :D
Tear. Ehn. Ten. Toes.
Got it?
TEAR-ehn TenToes (Where both syllables get the same accent, like two different words said real fast and smooshed together)
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Trace Nightwind - 8/11/2005 12:24 AM
Oholibama
Oh-whole-ee-bah-mah
Har Har Har
I was pronouncing it Oh-li-ba-ma... left out a syllabal I guess
O-Holy-Bama!
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Klaugraquene = CLAW-gruh-keen
Klaug = Clawg
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Noticed people trying to figure out Tre lately, so I'll drop in a pronunciation and an amusing anecdote from earlier today.
"Tray". I thought it was rather self-explanatory, but some people thought it was "Tree".
As for today, I was on my way to Sheetz after class for a shmiscuit. When I walked up to the cashier with my order, on her nametag was "Tre." My curiosity piqued, I had to ask, "I hope you don't mind me asking, but how do you pronounce your name?"
"Tray."
I was so very entertained. Never expected to see that name in real life.
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Oh.
I was saying "CLAW-gruh-KAY-nee."
I got "clawg" right, though.
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Athus - Ah-Thus
:)
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Michaelis
Mik' ale' lis
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Synal'dur
Synal'Dur
Hehe, pretty much like you read it.;)
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Fl/\\m3Str!k3 - 1/24/2006 5:21 PM
Synal'dur
Synal'Dur
Hehe, pretty much like you read it.;)
Yeah, but you could read it either:
Sin - all - dur (sin, as in the seven deadly sins, all, as in the word all)
or
Sign - al - dur (sign, as in stop sign, al as in the name Al)
or any combination of the above to variations.
-TV
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Well If you really want a boggle *rofl* Please help all the Dwarves and come up with a Dwarven-BrokenCommon in writen and pronouciation. 8)
ROFL getting up -> OUCH! It really hurts after my Ortho Doc put a #8 needle in my knee tring to suck out a solid syst.
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Sahala: SHuh (short 'u') - HA (as in, haha) - luh (shurt 'u')
SHuh-HA-luh (so, emphasis is on 'sh' sound and the middle syllable)
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Geir is pronounced as given here: http://www.viking.no/lyd/Geir.wav
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Wow, that is way off from how I always thought Geir was pronounced.
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I have to reply:
I often correct others in game, because when they shorten my characters name they put "Vest"
"I am not worn," I say.
It is simply Ves, why? because it's three letters and gives more sound to the true pronunciation.
Reason being, the 'T' Is silent, it's simply pronounced Vess-lyn It's a fuzzy name surely. But he's human, not Draconic *Grins*
Ves, Vessy, Vestlyn (One of the three, no more, and no less.. Unless others should Arrive that I feel suitable.)
Yours,
YotS - Pronounced Yahts, or Y. O. T. S. if you prefer. I like Yahts it's short and quick.
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Incase anyone wanted to know,
Eàmanë is pronounced: e - a - main
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Curr-tiss Sigh-mun Ore-cut
well we all prounce dregar pretty close to that last one.
*smiles