The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: EdTheKet on August 16, 2005, 12:10:00 PM
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Hello everyone,
It is with great pride that I can announce the second edition of the Layonara Campaign Handbook.
The plan was to have only a ‘minor’ update, but as it goes with plans, they’re good until you actually start. So, in the end, the Handbook got expanded with 140 pages.
Changes to the new edition:
- Updated Champion descriptions
- Updated continent descriptions for Xantril and Rilara
- Updated several Locales
- Updated ‘The Basics of… ‘ in the CNR section
- Updated Timeline
- Added Church of Lucinda and Church of Corath (Mandatory read for followers of these deities!)
- Added Continental Maps
- Added continental symbols
- Added Coats of Arms and other symbols (e.g Hlint, Port Hampshire)
- Added several of legends
- Added several organizations (and yes, players can join through CDQs)
- Added Constellations
- Added many seas and oceans
- Added Clans&Tribes
- Added several city descriptions
- Added 3 subraces (wemics, brownies, sea elves)
- Added several NPCs
- Added modified spells
- Added Feats section
- Added Skills section
- Many other things
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Some of it is also on the forums of course, like the races and the deities, but a lot of it is not. I highly recommend everyone to download it and take a look (your printer won’t survive the printing I think ;) ). I will be adding some of it to the forums over the next couple of days, for example, the constellations in the deity write-ups. I would like to thank everyone who submitted things for incorporation, please see the ‘Credits’ section in the new Handbook for who these people are. Then the technical stuff: It can be downloaded in the latest files section, has 354 pages and can be opened with Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.0 or higher. There’s one with white pages as well as one with watermarked parchment pages. The latter one takes more loading time on slow machines, but it looks nicer J
Also, the bookmarks tab in Acrobat Reader also work for easy navigation through the document. The search function works as well.
Download it here (http://www.layonaraonline.com/downloads.asp).
Happy reading!
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I want to thank everybody that helped Ed "update" this release. There was a lot of great work put in to this effort.
A HUGE thank you goes to Ed!! You are very professional and it is a great joy to work with you on this and our other projects. :)
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The files that are up now contain the MS Word version, you don't want to have those as they're 90MB and run really slow, working on getting the PDFs there.
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PDF versions are now online, download here (http://www.layonaraonline.com/downloads.asp)and happy reading!
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The PDF links appear to be down. I noticed they point to an FTP server using a direct IP address; perhaps the IP has changed?
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They are working for me.... Try to do a "save as".
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That worked. Thanks! :)
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This is very cool:
"A great black cloud, or some great shadow, seemed to encircle the world one night; this disturbance was reported from many locations around the world. Research continues on what may have caused this disturbance and why it lasted for such a short time."
One of the coolest nights for us, and the first spontaneous DM appearance for us, when the Lady of the Land asked our small group to find Rhizome to warn him about Milara, just as the night became dark.
And now it's in the timeline!
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teefal - 8/16/2005 7:14 PM
This is very cool:
"A great black cloud, or some great shadow, seemed to encircle the world one night; this disturbance was reported from many locations around the world. Research continues on what may have caused this disturbance and why it lasted for such a short time."
One of the coolest nights for us, and the first spontaneous DM appearance for us, when the Lady of the Land asked our small group to find Rhizome to warn him about Milara, just as the night became dark.
And now it's in the timeline!
Indeed!
One of the coolest things is seeing events that your character was a part of immortilzed (is that a word) in various ways. :D
Awesome job Ed and every one who worked so hard on this. That Handbook is an incredible and indespensible reference. I am constantly referring to it during RP. Awesome awesome awesome!
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Ummm,hate to bring this up, but there is a mistake in the summons of Ilsare.
In playing Vivian Elishan, I have noticed the summons are NOT
Air Mephit, Greater Air Mephit, Air collum, but rather, elven archer, Elven fletcher, elven striker. I do not know beyond there because I don't hae summon IV yet, heh.
If it is a pain to change, don't bother, but perhaps put an adendum somewhere?
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I looked through the timeline and counted that Rufus is over 45 years old!
But seriously, as soon as possible I am going to read through the handbook, it should be a great read!
PS. I really love the new timeline :)
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Yeah, a lot of people that started a while back are much older... it makes my head explode sometimes.
You don't even want to know how old Ta'k is now. :\\
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I looked into the book briefly, and am again amazed by the detail, creativity and loads of work that was put into this fantastic piece of work.
Excellent work Ed, and aaaaallllll the others who helped!
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Really nice work one and all. Great job!
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I might not be playing but I still recoginise a bit of magic. Impressed? oh yes.
Germaine Lorn
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We just put an updated one up as the Ilsare summons were incorrect, I had forgotten the wemics and the Shadow Thieves.
Also corrected some spelling, now it's really done.
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Now for some serious reading...thanks all.
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Would it be possible to have the handbook printed nicely in color and bound? I know I would pay for it and it may be a nice way to raise funds. Is anybody else willing to pay for this service?
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This is something Ed and I have/are talking about and chances are it will happen--just need to find the best way to do it and the one that is the least effort for us--then to get the time to set it up. :)
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It's not exactly what you want as it is B&W with a color cover, but as far as ease of use, CafePress can publish a book for you.
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/products/books
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you can take the file into any print shop and have it printed. Just have them rotate the few pages that are landscape.
if you get it in color it can get pretty expensive. roughly $.79-$.99 per color page where black and white are around $.06 to $.09 per page. To coil bind it would cost around 4 to 5 dollars.
You can have them booklitize it on 8.5x11 inch paper. This would basically put 2 pages on each side of an 8.5xll, then fold in in half so you have a booklet. That would be a little cheaper. About half the cost.
Well, now I have to go to work. And repeat that 20 times tonight to customers.
See ya,
Etinfall
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Awesome guide. Outstanding job guys. Thank you. I was awestruck, great detail and effort. I was especially impressed with the detail the deities, and in particular Lucinda, have been described. It made me think even more about my submitted halfling worshipper of Lucinda, and reconsider quiet a few things, luckliy, I did not create that character and most likely will not, since he would not fit my current conceptions of what I'd like to achieve with it.
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Beautiful, I'm thinking about taking it to like Kinko's and have it printed. :)
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GhostWhoWalks - 8/17/2005 2:51 AM
Yeah, a lot of people that started a while back are much older... it makes my head explode sometimes.
You don't even want to know how old Ta'k is now. :\\
Now Ghost... we dont get older ;-) We just get better with time. Quintayne swears that he is not a day over 30 even now.
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Now Ghost... we dont get older ;-) We just get better with time. Quintayne swears that he is not a day over 30 even now.
Heh. Well... I just try not to think about it. Things start to break when you do. Like the idea that named NPC's are probably in their 60's or later. It's sometimes better to just pretend none of that exists.
But yeah, Ta'k gets better with time. I actually had to sit down and figure out why a while back. I mean... he is old now. I figured Dorand's keeping him strong, because Ta'ks role isn't done. Once he does whatever he's suspossed to for Dorand, he'll be a regular old man again. Until then, he's still able to bench press an ox or two. Hehe.
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Sakura,
I printed mine at work. After hours too. So I printed it in color and on really high end paper. Hey, why not...I am the boss now...*evil laugh* err on of them at least. It looks great. I coil bound it to. Fantastic job guys.
I am working on a file of just the maps. I am going to print them out on 11x17. Be nice to have handy.
Etin
again, supurb job. To all those who helped.
Edit:oh, I work at a print shop, that is how I knew the prices.
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This is absolutely awesome!
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Etinfall - 8/17/2005 10:57 PM
I printed mine at work. After hours too. So I printed it in color and on really high end paper.
oh, I work at a print shop, that is how I knew the prices.
Hehe rub it in... I don't work and I don't have a printer! (Sakura = Stay at home mother)
Sakura
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Sakura + Worlds Cutest Baby + Computer + Insanty = Stay at home mom + Mad Quest Runner
(Those algebraic problems eh? Mess you up every time)
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Soo, cole, what you're saying is that it would cost like $40 to have it printed 8.5x11 and $20 to have it bookletized (if that is indeed a word) at 5.5x 8.5?
-TV
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Talan Va'lash - 8/18/2005 5:04 PM
Soo, cole, what you're saying is that it would cost like $40 to have it printed 8.5x11 and $20 to have it bookletized (if that is indeed a word) at 5.5x 8.5?
-TV
yes...the prices in austin are as follows.(this is where I work, some are a little higher and some are a little lower)
$.08 for each black and white side. (for a 2 sided page it would be $.16)
$ .89 for each color side (2 sided page is $1.78)
double sided, ie. 1 page per side
black and white would cost: 177 x $.16 = $28.32.
color would cost: 177 x $1.78 = $315.06
if you 2 up it, ie. 2 pages per side
black and white: 89 x $.16 = $14.24
color: 89 x $1.78 = 158.42
Now that is printing them all in color. Even pages that have no color in them. My suggestion would be to go through and pick the pages you definitely want in color and print just those in color and the rest in black and white. But to have a printer insert them would cost some more money, we charge $.25 per insertion. So just have the certain pages printed in color and the rest in black and white. Insert them your self and then have the printer bind it. We charge $4 to $5 to bind something that large.
A problem with 2 up ing something that large(number of pages) is that you really cant fold it into a book(booklitize, word or not we use that term. hehe). but you can have it bound with a coil bind or a comb bind. I prefer coil, the comb binds don't turn as nice.
I need to say the color pages look great. The images look fantastic. At-least have the cover printed in color.
does that help? Maybe I can take orders and have them printed then fed ex them out. With my discounts it would be pretty cheap.
Etinfall
edit: typo
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I would buy one from you.. Dont have a printer, and the copy store around here is a lot more then your prices.....
Death is just one part of life, and in that part of life we all have are roles to play...
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I am looking in to a possible printing solution. Please give me a little bit before deciding to go this route (though I do think it is cool you are offering this option). I would really like to use this to get a little bit of "donation" money for the server... $250-$345 a month (hosting/bandwidth cost) gets mighty expensive.
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I definitely vote for a smaller (footprint) book, like 5.5x8.5 or something.
I've done a lot of publication formating for marketing before, and the handbook is formated as an online document right now. Printed documents never have margins that big or type faces that large (due to the high cost of printing 5000 copies of something heh.)
Also to make an economic printable version it might be wise to create (on some pages at least) a wide margin/column and put the poems and excerpts from other sources there, instead of making them larger and giving them their own page.
-TV