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Title: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on August 22, 2005, 10:51:00 PM
Hi there,
I think about writing a little tool for the deeds. I know that it is difficult for younger adventures (like me) to imagagine how the deeds look, because you may never seen one before. It would be a tool, out of the game, well I'm thinking about write it for them with a full list of all avaible deeds, each with a small pic, so you would know, how it would look like; deeds are expensive for those who haven't a lot of money after buying a house, so they would be able to see the deed before they would buy it. And I want to write an own calculater with it, saying if you buy this two times and this one, you will have to pay this...
Well, would be there interest?
I would need some GM help, because I will not be able to buy each deed, too expensive for me ;) buying every deed only for a screenshoot ;)

With regards, Lord of the Forest
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: PsychicToaster on August 22, 2005, 11:10:00 PM
I don't remember where I saw it, but I think someone already posted a collection of screenshots of what all the placeables look like.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Talan Va'lash on August 22, 2005, 11:48:00 PM
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=259
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on August 23, 2005, 05:15:00 AM
ahh, ok, thanks, but I'll write a little tool for me ;) my last project was over a month ago, some mathematic thing; heh and to improve my skills ;)

well, can I use the screenshots then?
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Talan Va'lash on August 25, 2005, 08:25:00 AM
Ask minerva
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on August 25, 2005, 08:38:00 AM
okies, I'll ask ;)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 01, 2005, 07:34:00 AM
well,
just started a beta-version of this tool ;) looks very good, but with the new server-update we got more deeds. Did I count right we have now 127 deeds? However, I need screens of the new deeds, please, if you have some, take screenshots and send them. I'll try to get this little prog ready ASAP!

With regards, Lord of the Forest
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Dorganath on September 01, 2005, 08:16:00 AM
Patience.....  The screenshots don't make themselves. :)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 01, 2005, 08:52:00 AM
heh, I know ;) but it is fun to write this little prog ;)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 02, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
well,
just finished my beta version =) I hope go get the pics very soon so I can complete the first chapter of this prog. Now I have to get somedesign ;) it should look well ;)
I'll post a list with oictures I still need:

Double Bed
elegant bed
bed with headboard
large circular Table
long table
Spear Rack
Anvil
bench
large bench
arched window
rectangular window
midnight stroll picture
maiden and the dragon picture
knight's attack picture
fireball mage picture
dwarf picture
dark caster picture
castle picture
black haired woman picture
Black Dragon picture
warrior picture
young woman picture
woman green dress picture
woman casting picture
Warrior picture
valliant Hero picture
red beard warrior picture
protecting the fallen picture
noble woman picture
bath tub
archery target
visual effect: blue flame
visual effect: med flame
combat dummy
chair 2
cauldron
bones
trash can
chessboard
sconce
woodpile
stool
cushion
tomb
divining pool
altar - evil stone
altar - skull
housing teleport system
alchemist lab
grand piano
bar piano
telescope
Globe
weapon rack


With regards, Lord of the Forest

p.s.: please send me a mail with the pictures you shot, or in your album and pm me the link to it ;)
I'll update the list ASAP!!!
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Dorganath on September 02, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
minerva now has the deeds and will be making images of each of them as she gets time.  This is a very time-consuming process, so again, please just be patient and they will get done as her schedule allows.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 02, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
sure,
I'll wait. I will be very busy on this weekend ;) and some homeworks still want to be finished ;)
I'm young, I've got time.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Tedulas on September 05, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
Can the deeds actually be used...I noticed an alcadamy table - can that be used for alcadamy purposes and can the oven be used for cooking?

Tedulas Darkhand.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Dorganath on September 05, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
Some deeds can, others cannot. 
  Trashcans and bathtubs, for instance, are usable, as are chests, armoires, crates, dressers, bookshelves and any other containers we might have.  Chairs, couches and benches can be used to sit on as well.
  As it currently stands, working CNR crafting stations (alchemy, enchanting, etc.) will not be permitted in player housing.  This also applies to guild halls.  Maybe this rule will change some day, but I doubt it.
Title: RE: something about deeds
Post by: D Blaze on September 05, 2005, 01:05:00 PM
As stated that some deeds are usable and some are not, could some certain ones be made into storage variants?

The weapon rack, for example, could be given the chest equivalent of storage capacity. It seems that it cannot be used as such at the moment
Another possibility would be the combat dummy, could another one be made as an armor stand, again with the chest holding capacity

It just kinda makes sense that crafters, or store owners, would like like their wares displayed, rather than stuffed into boxes.
Possibly as trophies as well.

It makes for great stories having friends over for dinner or something, and all of a sudden, they spot a suit of armor and helm propped on a stand, surrounded by racks of weapons glowing with their own lights, and they just have to ask how you got them.

Same goes for the retired people too. Just spending a quite night at home by a good fire, drink in hand, sitting in your favorite chair, looking through your old gear set up along one wall, just reliving your glory-days in your mind
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Aragon on September 05, 2005, 01:11:00 PM
DBlaze - I can tell you this .. the armor stand idea is in the game but since it is actually a creature and not a placeable you can't purchase it as a placeable.  I must say though it is quite cool to put a piece of armor on it and then see it actually on the armor stand.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: D Blaze on September 05, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
Thanks Aragon, or even any clothing to a degree

I mean Zhofe's Vivian, as a Dress maker, would surely love the opportunity to have all her creations on display.

Here's hoping you come up with something then for players to get a hold of *crosses fingers*
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 05, 2005, 02:09:00 PM
Sorry all,
but I have no time to finish this little fine tool this week, have to learn all the days for my theoretical test for my driver licence, will continue writing this prog after tuesday next week ;) thanks for the great pics, minerva =)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Talan Va'lash on September 05, 2005, 02:40:00 PM
Aragon, Do we have a way to place a creature (armor stand) IG and make it persistant?  I'm thinking that would probably have to be done in the toolset eh?

-TV
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: D Blaze on September 05, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
or another thought, would it be possible to take an existing item, like the placeable chest, and alter it's visual to that of the armor stand, then just rename and save it?

This way it doesn't count as a creature, and works just like it is wanted to, though, actually seeing what is placed on it IG would be a big step after thatas Aragon describes it, but it's a start.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 06, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
Yeah =)
I guess it's my grudge.... I only can think about this little prog; I almost spend all my time in continue programming it. I keep on going very fast, maybe it will be finish end of this week ;)
however, I still found some deeds I still don't have...
grand piano
spear rack
weapon rack
picture woman green dress

I hope this are all.

Well, only something with the design, start-up and two different print-functions and it will be ready ;)

Cya, Lord of the Forest
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Dorganath on September 06, 2005, 03:02:00 PM
Those deeds are bugged, so they don't actually place...yet.
   
  Again...patience. :)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: minerva on September 06, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
Picture - Woman Green Dress  added (oops I missed it ) 
  Weapons Rack is there, Pg 11
  Like Dorganath said, the piano and spear rack are bugged.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Leanthar on September 06, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
I would like to thank Minerva once again!  Good job and thank you.
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 07, 2005, 06:09:00 AM
oooops, don't try to write a programm if you're almost falling asleep ;) Just saw I already have the weapon rack ;) However, Just working on the buy-list for ya shopping ;) ok, the list is ready, with add and remove button and current cost... Just workin on the printable version of this list... Should be easy to do in a few hours ;)
great job from minerva again....
What you all think about adding the layonara theme in this programm? Sure, with a button to start or end it ;)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: D Blaze on September 07, 2005, 07:14:00 AM
Are you okay Lord?

You seem to have a twitch going in your right eye. Try to get more sleep would you? :)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 07, 2005, 08:47:00 AM
Heh, I'll try, the programm is almost ready, starting screen now keeps on running, not the best solution, but for a smart start it fits ;)
well, credits and help and I'm ready ........... Print list will follow in next version then ;)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 08, 2005, 02:10:00 PM
well,
just finished the first version of this nice deed tool ;)
enjoy the first screenshot, hope you like the design ;) Well,
will send L a link so he will be able to upload it on this site ;)

Cya all, Lord of the Forest

http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=263&photoid=4139
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 09, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
well,
I'm glad to say it's online now ;)
http://ftp://64.127.106.70/optional_files/Deeds_Overview.rar
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Leanthar on September 09, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
Good job Lord of the Forest. :)  And thank you for taking the time to code this. It looks really cool. :)
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 09, 2005, 05:11:00 PM
Well, you're most welcome. I'm glad I was able to help. I hope this little programm helps other new house owners to select their new furniture...
I will still try to update this, some new functions and procedures, next update of course with the layo-theme ;)
Yeah, if you find some bugs, please write me a pm, trying to fix it in the next update ;)
Well, I wish you all the best with this programm, just for you ;)

Cya all, Lord of the Forest
Title: RE: something about deeds (GM please read!!!)
Post by: Lord of the Forest on September 10, 2005, 02:53:00 PM
Attention to all who finally downloaded this tool:
I just got a pm about the 'chair decor 2' which shall differs from the pic in this tool...
Only a short response if this is true... I tested it but everything seemed to be alright...
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