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Title: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Frendh on September 19, 2005, 12:05:00 PM
Okay, I've confirmed it. FFVII:Advent Children
-does- make the world spin faster.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Ioskeha on September 19, 2005, 12:46:00 PM
Really?  I got my copy from from Play-Asia on Saturday and watched it the same day.  I didn't like the move at all.  Here's a review of it that I did on another board.

I expected the plot to have just a bit more depth. But instead it leads up to a way to obvious battle that is resolved in one on one combat in about as exciting a fashion as the game did (IE use your Limit Break!).

Whatever character development Cloud was supposed to have gone through in FF7 is washed away. He's still the same hardass loner jerk he was at the start of that game. So I mean, I don't really know what the point was other than to pander to the fans I guess.

The CGI is pretty good, and the action is intense I guess. Still the combat all comes across as a little too Matrixey. There's no real magic use outside of some blasts shot by one of the bad guys, and one summon. The laws of physics are flat out defiled in this movie, and it culminates in some pretty ridiculous scenes (Cloud being thrown into the sky by his friends, the motorcycle battle in the tunnel, and Cloud and the villain flying around at the end). It's fairly typical of anime I guess, but seems a bit odd in a Final Fantasy movie.

I realize the whole thing is fanservice, but you'd think they'd show the other characters a bit more. The Turks get more screen time than Barrett, Yuffie, Cid, Vincent, Cait Sith and Red XIII. Vincent gets the most time out of those three which is weird I guess. He's the only one who seems to say anything of substance (Although Yuffie talks a bit).

I did enjoy the music though, FF7's soundtrack didn't stick with me as much as some of the others, but they put it to good use in this movie. The piano version of one of the boss theme's was really good I thought. The music video portion of the credits is dumb though, and Cloud looks like a woman in it. Which makes me realize I didn't say enough about the overall Bishieness of this, but meh. I just don't care now.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Doc-Holiday on September 19, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
Arr!  I be agreein with the long winded lad
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Sakura on September 20, 2005, 06:33:00 AM
Square-enix Japan:

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dvd/ff7ac/


And with that said:

(http://ff7ac.net/media/screenshots/officalimages/6.jpg)
(http://ff7ac.net/media/screenshots/other/9.jpg)
(http://ff7ac.net/media/screenshots/officalimages/8.jpg)
(http://ff7ac.net/media/screenshots/other/14.jpg)

All images came from FF7 AC.net (http://ff7ac.net/)

I look forward to seeing the movie in all it's glory. :)
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Vincent on September 20, 2005, 08:30:00 AM
I thought Tifa's fight scene was pretty hot.  *wonders* Just what is it about women who kick ass?
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Talan Va'lash on September 20, 2005, 10:15:00 PM
So... um... The second picture... is that to illustrate the starring role of her breasts?

-TV
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: IDii on September 20, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
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Talan Va'lash - 9/21/2005  8:15 AM

So... um... The second picture... is that to illustrate the starring role of her breasts?

-TV


That or it's simply taken by some male person. Heh...

I want to see this movie... Will probably a while still though.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Frendh on September 21, 2005, 03:26:00 AM
Well, it's not tifa. And the picture is supposed to show
enough of her face and clothes to give a big enough
hint for even the not so clever FF7 players to under-
stand who it is.

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Talan Va'lash - 9/21/2005  7:15 AM

So... um... The second picture... is that to illustrate the starring role of her breasts?

-TV
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: lonnarin on September 21, 2005, 02:38:00 PM
Cid kind of looks like Mel Gibson!

I hope this one doesn't tick me off as much as the last FF movie... or the poorly translated ending in FF7.

"Oh no! Sepheroth!  I am your clone!"

"Your clone, my clone!  We are all clones!"

"Look at red dog! He is clone too! MegaMan 3 flashback!"

Then it just kind of trailed off, and while Japanese people got to see Aeris come back to life, we got lots of gratuitous chest shots of Tifa.  I'm not complaining, just confused... and scared.

I think the closeup of Vincent is pretty wicked.  I really hope they get more in depth with his involvement in Shinra and the undoubtable horrors he had commited before his transformation.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Aryn Ravenlocke on September 21, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
For those truly anal about FF VII and wanting to know facts versus rumors.
    http://www.ff7citadel.com/
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Sakura on September 22, 2005, 02:53:00 AM
U.S Offical site:

http://na.square-enix.com/dvd/ff7ac/

Its in stores now in Japan according to Square-enix japan.

(I was looking for this site for a few hours hehe)
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Sakura on October 03, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
I just got to see the movie a friend of mine found an import copy in J-town (official Square-enix import).

One word: Thrilling

It was the best thing I've seen in a really long time that made me feel so excited. I watched it with a bunch of friends we ended up watching it like 5 times afterwards trying to catch all the little things we missed the fist times around.

97.5% none stop action, lots of story in so little time. Sword fights, gun fights, motorbike fights... wow. Parts of the movie are haunting and chilling as you recall FF7 the game over again.

Now there is talk of FF7 being remade just like the movie with AC added onto it. It will take 3 years and will debut on the Ps3 if it happens (I really hope so Cloud is to cute :D)

I can't wait for the official U.S. version to come out. :) Square, you out did yourselves again the next generation of games/movies is about to begin.


Love,

Sakura-chan
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Frendh on October 04, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
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Sakura - 10/3/2005  8:23 PM

I just got to see the movie a friend of mine found an import copy in J-town (official Square-enix import).

One word: Thrilling

It was the best thing I've seen in a really long time that made me feel so excited. I watched it with a bunch of friends we ended up watching it like 5 times afterwards trying to catch all the little things we missed the fist times around.

97.5% none stop action, lots of story in so little time. Sword fights, gun fights, motorbike fights... wow. Parts of the movie are haunting and chilling as you recall FF7 the game over again.

Now there is talk of FF7 being remade just like the movie with AC added onto it. It will take 3 years and will debut on the Ps3 if it happens (I really hope so Cloud is to cute :D)

I can't wait for the official U.S. version to come out. :) Square, you out did yourselves again the next generation of games/movies is about to begin.


Love,

Sakura-chan


Completely agree. Have been hearing a lot of complaints about
the action and shallow story though. For those who played and
enjoyed the game will understand that there are a lot of visuals
that has a lot of meaning to them. So basically, the story is
there if you paid attention to the game.

I guess I have to agree with Ioskeha that it is a movie for fans.
Still, it doesn't make it less great.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Thunder Pants on October 04, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
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Sakura - 10/3/2005  11:23 AM

I just got to see the movie a friend of mine found an import copy in J-town (official Square-enix import).

One word: Thrilling

It was the best thing I've seen in a really long time that made me feel so excited. I watched it with a bunch of friends we ended up watching it like 5 times afterwards trying to catch all the little things we missed the fist times around.

97.5% none stop action, lots of story in so little time. Sword fights, gun fights, motorbike fights... wow. Parts of the movie are haunting and chilling as you recall FF7 the game over again.

Now there is talk of FF7 being remade just like the movie with AC added onto it. It will take 3 years and will debut on the Ps3 if it happens (I really hope so Cloud is to cute :D)

I can't wait for the official U.S. version to come out. :) Square, you out did yourselves again the next generation of games/movies is about to begin.


Love,

Sakura-chan


the talk of the remake of the game is entirerly rumor, the made a demo to show off the abilities of the PS3, but there is currently no plans on making or rather remaking the game
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Frendh on October 04, 2005, 01:47:00 PM
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Thunder Pants - 10/4/2005  10:44 PM

the talk of the remake of the game is entirerly rumor, the made a demo to show off the abilities of the PS3, but there is currently no plans on making or rather remaking the game


The thing is that they actually do a lot for their fans over there.
So if the fans keep pushing for it, it will likely come. Money is a
factor, so it just needs to be enough of them to make themselves
heard.

Advent Children being a very good example.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Sakura on October 04, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
Yes the movie was completly made for fans that played the game no doubt about that.  Money makes the world go round, FFX is a great example:  FF 10 comes out.. it ends the people demand a sequal a year later FF 10-2 is out in stores.   In production (or out in Japan) right now:  FF IV (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff4a/) (GBA) FF XII (Ps2)  Dirge of Cerberus (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/games/ps2/dcff7/) - FF VII (Check it out!) Before Crisis (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/mobile/bcff7.html) - FF VII (Check it out!) DW & FF board game (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/games/ps2/itastsp/) (who would have thought...)  All from the offical japan site. If your wondering yes I like my games. :)
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Acacea on October 04, 2005, 02:58:00 PM
And I hold the world personally responsible for said sequel. I will have my revenge! Argg.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Talan Va'lash on October 04, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
um... I liked final fantasy 1.  That was a good game.  *coughs and looks around before walking out of the room*
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Bryantiza on October 04, 2005, 03:23:00 PM
im still waiting for Final Fantasy III to be realised here in the UK. It's the only game i haven't brought yet. (Yes ok I admit it. I'm a Final fantasy addict) *grabs his gunblade, sticks on a fake scare across his face and runs around acting mean and grumpy shouting 'It's none of your business', in the true Squall fashion*
(Final Fantasy VIII is still my favourite one.)
Can't wait to get my hands on this movie though. I wonder if they'll make one for FF8 aswell... *begins to dream up plans on what it could be about*
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Talan Va'lash on October 04, 2005, 03:26:00 PM
US Final Fantasy III or Jap Final Fantasy III?
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Bryantiza on October 04, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
Japan. US ff3 is uk ff6
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Kapitän Awesome on October 04, 2005, 06:33:00 PM
Ohhh man, this is the first I've heard about the movie. I thought it was just a video game coming out for PS3: this movie is gonna rock.

And with that said, I want to take a poll....who was you guys' favorite FFVII character? Mine was Vincent: Good storyline, and powerful. He was awesome in every sense of the word  :)
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Talan Va'lash on October 04, 2005, 08:55:00 PM
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Bryantiza - 10/4/2005  4:32 PM

Japan. US ff3 is uk ff6


wait a minute... I thought US ff3 was japan ff4.  how'd it get to 6 in the UK?

Edit: wait... did that wrong.. let me think...

japan     US
1             1
2             -
3             -
4             2
5             3


ok, still cant figure out how it got to be 6 in the UK
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Thunder Pants on October 04, 2005, 10:38:00 PM
japan 6 is US 3, and in my oppinion the best FF game to date
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: IDii on October 04, 2005, 10:47:00 PM
FF1 - NES only in Japan
FF2 - NES only in Japan
FF3 - NES only in Japan
FF4 - SNES, FF1 in US
FF5 - SNES, FF2 in US
FF6 - SNES, FF3 in US
FF7 - PSX, PC and it's FF7 everywhere... First FF game that got to Europe, yay!
FF8 - PSX, PC
FF9 - PSX
FF10 - PS2
FF10 - 2 - PS2
FF11 - PS2, PC

That's the original games... then of course there's now pretty much all FF's on PS and so on... But yeah, for some reason FF4-6 were FF1-3 in the US... heh.

I remember one of my friends asking why FF7 was FF7 when it came out... I told him that's because it's the seventh game in the series... Bah.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Maki on October 04, 2005, 11:12:00 PM
Mmmm, I just have one word for Cloud....HAX!

lmao...seriously, he turned on Aerith + Zack hacks in the movie =P

On a more serious note though, I hate Square Enix now....They've made Tifa look like Rinoa, which is a good thing, but I now realize there will never be a FF 8 movie....which makes me dpressed *sigh*
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Frendh on October 04, 2005, 11:54:00 PM
The jap only games have been fansubbed and are playable
as roms on emus.

For those who own a japanese original version that is.

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IDii - 10/5/2005  7:47 AM

FF1 - NES only in Japan
FF2 - NES only in Japan
FF3 - NES only in Japan
FF4 - SNES, FF1 in US
FF5 - SNES, FF2 in US
FF6 - SNES, FF3 in US
FF7 - PSX, PC and it's FF7 everywhere... First FF game that got to Europe, yay!
FF8 - PSX, PC
FF9 - PSX
FF10 - PS2
FF10 - 2 - PS2
FF11 - PS2, PC

That's the original games... then of course there's now pretty much all FF's on PS and so on... But yeah, for some reason FF4-6 were FF1-3 in the US... heh.

I remember one of my friends asking why FF7 was FF7 when it came out... I told him that's because it's the seventh game in the series... Bah.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: IDii on October 05, 2005, 12:24:00 AM
Yeah and I think there was some collection FF game with 1-4 on PSX... not sure.
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Bryantiza on October 05, 2005, 12:44:00 AM
nah it was final fantasy origins which had games 1 and two, they skipped 3, and made anthology which had 4-6...if i remember correctly. I would run upstairs and look but eh, i'm too lazy.

*shakes fist* if they don't make a final fantasy 8 film, i'm going to Japan in a few years, i'll threaten them. i'll talk Posh english to them so they won't understand and chant 'final fantasy 8' till they give in...or call the police.

Final fantasy XI. I bought that the day it came out. Still haven't used it. can't afford the steap monthly subscription. it was about £9 a month last time i checked.

*shifty eyes* I still don't know why people think 7 was better than 8. 8 was, and still is the best FF game for me. 9 was...ok, it weren't bad. not too keen on X or X-2. my top three ff games are:
1-Final fantasy 8 (because I fell in love with it as soon as I played it.
2-Final Fantasy 6 (Cause them damn moogles are still pissing me off and i'm still stuck, but thats what i like about it)
3-Final Fantasy 7 (Its got things that they left out of all the other games i.e. chocobo breeding, golden Saucer. The only problem is I never really liked the storyline. It just seemed too action packed.)

-I remember now. it was origins which had 1-2. 3 still hasn't come. 4-5 are anthology, and 6 is a by seperate.-
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Thunder Pants on October 05, 2005, 03:11:00 AM
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IDii - 10/4/2005  10:47 PM

FF1 - NES only in Japan
FF2 - NES only in Japan
FF3 - NES only in Japan
FF4 - SNES, FF1 in US
FF5 - SNES, FF2 in US
FF6 - SNES, FF3 in US
FF7 - PSX, PC and it's FF7 everywhere... First FF game that got to Europe, yay!
FF8 - PSX, PC
FF9 - PSX
FF10 - PS2
FF10 - 2 - PS2
FF11 - PS2, PC

That's the original games... then of course there's now pretty much all FF's on PS and so on... But yeah, for some reason FF4-6 were FF1-3 in the US... heh.

I remember one of my friends asking why FF7 was FF7 when it came out... I told him that's because it's the seventh game in the series... Bah.


not quite Idii

FF1 was FF on the original Nes
FF2, Nes
FF3 Nes
FF4 Snes, FF2 in USA
FF5 Snes
FF6 Snes FF3 in USA
FF7 PS1
FF8 PS1
FF9 PS1

also FF chronicles for the PS1 contained FF 5 & 6, of which 5 had never been released in the states before
FF Anthology contained FF4 and Chrono Trigger
and FF origins contained FF 1 and 2

then there are also the gameboy games, and the games which recieved the FF name when they came to the US (read FF Mystic Quest for Snes, FF Adventure 1&2 for the gameboy etc)
Title: RE: Movie: Advent Children
Post by: Talan Va'lash on October 05, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
Hah!  I knew US FF1 was the first one.

I really, would never play another final fantasy game again.  I absolutely HATE the system where every 2d10 steps you walk, something comes out of the floor and attacks you.

FF1 was cool because it was the first game where you fought stuff and walked around on a big map and got swords and stuff... but... the system was terrible.  It was just awesome because there was nothing else like it before.  Well, there was gauntlet, but you couldnt get new swords!  which was the coolest part of FF.

I was like.... 6 at the time I think.

-TV
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