The World of Layonara
NWN Discussions and Suggestions => NWN Ideas, Suggestions, Requests => Topic started by: Tedulas on September 29, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
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Sorry about this! But infusing is very time consuming in Hlint...running back and forth to rest over and over.
But, Just wandering - what if we made an area in Mokaden's Tower a safe place to rest? Then infusing would be easier!
Sorry about spamming post about this - but it's quite annoying having to run back and forth to keep resting.
Tedulas Darkhand.
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No offense, but if crafting were simple, it wouldn't be interesting. At least in my opinion. If it's annoying, don't do it. Otherwise, deal with it. Fenrir armor crafts, that isn't exactly a walk in the park aswell you know. I say, keep it as it is.
*note - this is my opinion and my opinion only and should not be taken as an attack :)*
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I agree with s0ulz, there are many crafters, myself including, who have done it the hard way. So I see no reason why it is impossible or needs to be changed
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yup, the point is that you cant spam it over and over by resting right there. Its intended and probably (hopefully) not going to change.
-TV
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aye, resting in a safe rest area too often, is in my opinion an exploit...
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Another idea for infusing.
Could infusing possibly also include the activity of powdering. The technique by which materials are augmented by the use of combining different materials together to arrive at a desired affect. It would still need to be trial and error of course.
Different gems have different bonuses, and instead of using magic, one can use different gems for the deired affect.
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Er...wouldn't that sorta be like alchemy? Or am I missing something?
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Nope that would be alchemy. Infusion as it works now is the use of gems to hold spells for use in wands and staffs.
On the same note it could be (and has been) argued that the creation of ability gems should reside under infusion rather than enchanting.
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Wintersheart - 10/8/2005 2:32 AM
On the same note it could be (and has been) argued that the creation of ability gems should reside under infusion rather than enchanting.
Ability gems are enchanting because they have a permanent enchantment. Anything thats using magic to enhance something permanantly is enchanting.
Infusing is anything that stores magical energy or spells in something to be released later. Once that energy is released the item no longer has any practical use... except maybe a backscratcher. There are a few exceptions of infused items that are not entirely expendable.
Alchemy is combining different ingredients in such a way as to bring out the magic within the ingredients to replicate (or simulate) a spell.
There are various powders in infusing that can store different spells.
Though, perhaps you are talking about some of the depictions of enchanting weapons in fantasy literature, where I've seen the dust of different gems often playing a role. Like.. ruby dust is sprinkled over the weapon while speakin the enchantment to create the magical sword or whatever. I don't think theres really anything IG like this. But there are dusts under infusing that can be used to cast a spell once.
-TV
Edit: Edited a typo where I said the opposite of what I meant, and clarified another point.
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Indeed magical dusts can be created in infusion -I have made quite a few myself, but they all require the casting of spells during the creation process. The suggestion by Komoda was to have dusts that was created without the use of magic.
Komoda - 10/7/2005 9:23 AM
Another idea for infusing.
Could infusing possibly also include the activity of powdering. The technique by which materials are augmented by the use of combining different materials together to arrive at a desired affect. It would still need to be trial and error of course.
Different gems have different bonuses, and instead of using magic, one can use different gems for the deired affect.
(my highlight)
Infusion includes various other objects, but the core of infusion is the storage of spells or spell-like properties in gems (or other vessels) for the creation of mainly wands and staffs. Infusion creates items of both permanent and non-permanent nature, many staffs have permanent abilities.
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As I understand it, infusion is not just about placing the affects of a particular spell into an item, its also about taking the properties of one material and placing it conjunction with another material in the hopes of creating a new and more desireable material. Spells used in this process would greatly aid in arriving with the finish product, maybe even better than what was orginally sought.
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Komoda - 10/9/2005 1:38 AM
As I understand it, infusion is not just about placing the affects of a particular spell into an item, its also about taking the properties of one material and placing it conjunction with another material in the hopes of creating a new and more desireable material. Spells used in this process would greatly aid in arriving with the finish product, maybe even better than what was orginally sought.
I'm thinking you understand it incorrectly. At least what it means in layonara. Infusing as a word in the english language can mean several things, its use in layo is as I described above.
What you describe could be either Alloying (smelting in layo, though theres not many alloys, only bronze) or Alchemy.
One of the original goals of historical alchemists was to transmute lead to gold by using all sorts of silly processes.
-TV