The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Niles09 on November 10, 2005, 05:43:00 AM
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The other day I finally managed to get so much xp that I was half trough lvl 8 (80.000). It have taken me the last tree months to get that amount. I play about 5-6 hours a week, it aint much but Ive seen people raise above me from lvl 1 in a few weeks.
Its not that xp means so much to me, the xp requirements from pnp doesnt suite an online RP nwn game. But honestly some new abilities, feats something would really make things more interesting. And the worst thing is to see your friends raise above you, so you cant explore without being either useless, or one of you taking all the monsters. Ofcourse its still fun, but it would be more fun in same lvl.
What do I do wrong? I've use about 3-4 hours on trips with others, to see the world, that usually makes 3000-5000xp. The most of the other time is used on conversations with other PC's and the last time I've been crafting alot. In tree weeks I've raised from lvl3 in tailoring to 9. The first 25.000xp was from a DM quest tree months ago, Ive now they bring alot of xp, but there is never any quest friday 10:00PM GMT.
I could need some advices!
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At 5-6 hours a week that is how you're going to see your progression. Some people play 10 times that amount a week and we have to cater the XP for both extremes.
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Still, you adressed this problem before and the best solution remains the same. Try to spend those 5-6 hours on a quest. You don't really level by bashing monsters on Layo, except maybe if you move your character relatively early to Dregar and team up with the highlevelled players there. But then again, sometimes central can be completely empty.
So, just join quests, they're all filled with quality RP and led by very good GM's.
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My Advice... spend time developing your character.
Don't let your level signify your character. . .
The Levels will come with time. I have been here almost a year and am only level 17. I have seen people that I met when they first started... and I was around level 12 or 13... have surpassed me.
Just have fun and RP.
That being said... If you need a faster leveling fix... jump on a different server... make level 20 in a week, get it out of your system then come back to the best place around =D
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yup, no other way around it. if you can only play 5-6 hrs a week, it's going to take you ages to level. I know because I used to be in the same predicament. I couldn't make quests and game time was just plain limited. There are a number of people that started near the time I did and have blasted almost to epic while my highest lvl character still sits at 14th. just settle down and find something else you like to do, and make the quests when you can.
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cappyra - 11/10/2005 3:50 AM
My Advice... spend time developing your character.
Don't let your level signify your character. . .
The Levels will come with time. I have been here almost a year and am only level 17. I have seen people that I met when they first started... and I was around level 12 or 13... have surpassed me.
Just have fun and RP.
That being said... If you need a faster leveling fix... jump on a different server... make level 20 in a week, get it out of your system then come back to the best place around =D
Cappyra, honestly read my post. I do enjoy the roleplaying as I said, the xp system from pnp doesnt work on a server like Layonara. And as I said I spend about and hour a week just talking with people, and ofcourse we also stops up on the run and talk, I tell you I've RP'ed my char right into her most hidden thoughts and out again... Just one new feat would do nice, I've been lvl 8 for tree monthts. If you've been here a year and you're already lvl 17, then I can tell you, that in 8 months when I have been here a year I will be about lvl 11 with this speed.
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oh, one more thing, I have found the levels 8-10th to be the hardest to get. after that, it seems things get a bit easier.
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very well, I shall hang on until I get to lvl 10. Anyway this weekend is a lucky one. Miracly enough no schoolwork. No essays, reports and since Leanther is placing a quest on a saturday, Im going to be in Aels recon quest friday, Leatnhers quest saturday, and the end of Aels CDQ sunday :)
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I spent ... what... Six months? with Weston at levels 8-10... maybe more... but then I don't focus on levels... but more with interacting with people. Nothing is more frustrating than being lv 20 and having no friends or even a developed character... most of my interaction builds my character, influences spells taken, and feats taken.
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Alright here's my advice, listen good. I had a character that I made in October 2003 I believe. I played him for a year. Never got past level 9. There were characters that I helped from level 1 that I saw pass me in a month. Now I let it get to me (I attribute it to my immaturity due to age) and I stopped having fun with my character, which stinks.
The fact is, had I kept on that pace I would have eventually made ten, then eleven, and maybe my original character would have been around to see Layonara V2. The people who leveled faster than me, well they were just freaks. *waves to Pan* Playing on loads of quests and RPing for hours and hours a day. They deserved every level they made. So what you've got to do, is take your mind off levels. As a matter of fact, try not to open your stat sheet, at all, and just do what you can. Levels come a lot faster when you don't think about them.
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Yeah, the Dreaded C button, I used to press "C" all the time and I kept a look at how much XP I was getting after every three kills about with my other characters. But with Leolaka I am preventing that from happening and I seem to level quicker, watching my XP jump if I open it not as often or look at my AC and see if my mage armor has worn off.
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I concur with Cole (yeah, your account is miltonyorkcastle, but you'll always be Cole to me ;). level 8 was the longest for all three of my characters who got that far, oddly enough.
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[/QUOTE] Cappyra, honestly read my post. I do enjoy the roleplaying as I said, the xp system from pnp doesnt work on a server like Layonara. And as I said I spend about and hour a week just talking with people, and ofcourse we also stops up on the run and talk, I tell you I've RP'ed my char right into her most hidden thoughts and out again... Just one new feat would do nice, I've been lvl 8 for tree monthts. If you've been here a year and you're already lvl 17, then I can tell you, that in 8 months when I have been here a year I will be about lvl 11 with this speed.[/QUOTE]
Honestly Niles09 I read your post. Your character was approved in mid June so you have been playing your character about 5 months. At 5-6 hours a week thats between 90 and 100 hours total game time. I am certain there are folks that spend that much time online in a single month... (week even =P)
Your character is also a Drow... which means you get less XP than most characters due to having a special subrace.
In addition I didn't say your weren't RPing your character... I said develope your character. Maybe even request a CDQ.
The single best and most enjoyable way to get XP is go on a GM lead quest. So if you only have a 6 hours to play in a week... try to set aside a block of time for when you can go on one of these quests.
Other than that... I don't know what to say. There are other servers where you can level quickly. It depends on what you want I suppose.
Good luck =)
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You'll know everything I'm about to say but it never hurts to be reverberated, but *shrugs* if it were up to me I'd remove the CR ratings upon PC examination and have the level of your character hidden - only known to the DM and yourself - not other players - doesn't really address your frustration though. I still see a few higher lvl players say to my low lvl PC words marking superiority when they should have no idea how strong I am. We all, whether we'd admit it or not get caught up in this lvling issue. It's no fun. Never is. Like orth said 5-6 hours isn't much time, and unfortunately due to game mechanics, most who just simply have the time to play more level faster - it's that simple. I suppose what I'm getting at is yup, that extra feat is nice but no matter how much you know the server is about RP, character developement etc..., which I'm sure you do very well, know that:
1 - leveling simply just to "compete" with your friends or "hang with them in combat" when you venture out can be lots of fun, but hollow. Yup, you know this, you don't do it - well we all do it, but the point needs to be said again and again - its hollow - unless the original intention is purely to be strong enough to aid them in some worthy cause - but this can quickly change to competition if you're not careful.
2 - Never let the jealousy of the lvling game take hold of you. This server is about fun and enjoyment and is perhaps the only server out there so dedicated to character developement - real developement - not hack and slash - you know that too. And yup, jealously, I've been jealous many times, and I'm willing to bet almost everyone else has of that person who you seemingly helped get started - only to find he or she leveled quickly far suprassing you and now acts like your boss - the "high level arrogance" I call it. Many of those folks (in fact all that I've seen) lack in their RP - they don't do it too well - they don't understand their characters. But then layonara corrects for that in a way called the ECDQ among others.
So yup, you may never reach the ECDQ, never get close, and it's frustrating, it stinks seeing yourself surpassed, not being able to be useful to your friends, we've all been there, it will continue to happen unless this game becomes your life - and to those folks, I pity them.
Keep it enjoyable, keep it fun, and like cappyra said, focus on your RP, do your best to block out this urge or frustration to level in order to continually party with your friends. Continue with your schoolwork, take care of your RL matters as it sounds like you so studiously do and remember that this is simply a game - nothing more. You know this one as well.
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Shadowblade225 - 11/10/2005 7:15 PM Continue with your schoolwork, take care of your RL matters as it sounds like you so studiously do and remember that this is simply a game - nothing more. You know this one as well.
Layonara won't be fun for you forever you know! People who rush the game usually "Wear out" the game wayyyy faster!
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Ive actually played my hole summer holiday away, cappyra, thats the reason for my char drawing running very very late ;) . Anyway Ive developed my char as far as I can without a CDQ, at the moment I am requesting one, but Im the last in a bit of a line.
Shadowblade, I have two weeks on a hack'n slash-fast-leveling-not-at-all-RP-server. It wasnt fun in the long run. I enjoy that you've time to RP and develope your char in Layo, but sometimes you happens to be in a combat. At my point its beginning to be a rutine. Alone: summon dire wolf and sneak attack, if overhelmed escape in darkness. Works every time. In group: sneak attack... It would be nice to get the hide in plain sight that would add excitment. It would be nice to get a pet companion, so you've able to RP even more.
About Gmq quest, Ive just been at one, bloods attack on Mistone with seabattles and all. It was great, but now I gonna go, homework is calling :)
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Well I suppose all I can say right now is that I have a lvl 6 elf that's been lvl 6 since June - yup June that's going through the same situation that you struggle with. His initial "group" of adventurers are now, oh about level 14-15 or so. Most have leveled fairly quickly. This elf would be a complete anchor to this party in combat, no more then a soul stone devourer. He tends to party alone 90% of the time. But that's his way, probably not yours and it's easy for me to say such things given I also have a character who is practically epic. I will say however, that 5 months is a bit long to spend on lvl 6, but then there really is no set time for a character to be at a specific level. So *shrugs*. Either way, just know that there are many others out there who are going through the same thing, and while little consolation, you eventually will level and get that "hide in plain site" feature that will make for some interesting RP and combat. Just be patient. All I can say.
EDIT: If your character is a forrest loving elf send me a pigeon in game. If he is a forrest loving Drow, hide your face from him and make sure not to tell him - at least not right away ;)
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Derrick is level 17... and has yet to do his first CDQ. . .
But I have developed him as a character through my interation with other players, my interaction with the world, and the forums.
I'll say this one more time. Don't let level define your character. Don't let a feat define your character.
If you can't HIPS. . . then roleplay steathiness. Use your dicebag... most people will play along I gaurantee it.
In my opinion... leveling does not get easier. You just tend to forget about it when you have over a quarter of a million XP staring you in the face to the next level. You just relax and have fun.
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I have two things to say, then I'll get on, play, and get my Layo fix. (I'm missing "The Early Years of SNL" for you people. Rahh.)
If you want XP, go on DM quests. Period. That's all there is to it. The rest is fine, sure; grab a single tank and let him run you through Haven a few times; jump up to level seven in a week. I can easily see that being pretty good RP, too, but that's beside the point: Your focus right now is on the XP, right? *He shakes his head.* Go on DM quests. RP through the DM quests. DMs will give you more XP if you're constantly typing away into your chatbox, generally speaking; the more you play your character in front of a DM, the more that DM will know that you're actually interested in developing the character. Also, the people who RP the whole way through a quest will generally add more to the quest, and make things that much more fun. Don't worry about the XP until the quest is over, and then start doing the Happy Dance over the 10k XP you've just accrued.
Or, gods forbid, don't worry about the XP at all, and just have fun.
Second thing? There are plataeus in levelling. On Layo, it seems to be 8-10. In PnP, in powergames, it's usually 10-13. RPing, it's usually much lower, around 5-8. Just my copper or three on that one.
Cheers.
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I made level 17 in two months on Layonara. That was playing about 6-8 hours a day. I quit angrily shortly thereafter. My character was well drawn in my mind but I'd not been around to really impress him on other people. Empty shell. I then went and played on Bastions of War for a month. It's team PvP, zero RP, like Cap said it gets it out of your system (it's funny I actually played with one of the DM's here... getting the 'game' out of your system is sometimes useful). Then since I'd very effectively burned bridges here I ran around from server to server trying to find the next best thing. Didn't happen. So I made my own server, it was beautiful but devoid of the player base, or as important, the squared away GM's here (you don't truly respect this side of things until your hair has turned grey from the nightmare that is finding good DMs). So what's the moral of this useless tale? Fast levelling is the root of all tragedy in the universe.
That said, you're a casual gamer and have a very different problem then a lot of people are trying to focus on here. It's really sad that balancing a world requires that you real time base it edging towards the maximum instead of the minimum. If you go too far in one direction, then you are flooded with high level characters with no substance, if you go too far in the other direction, casual gamers are just stranded. Unfortunately the former creates worlds with no substance themselves... so casual gamers are out of luck if the server wants a rooted and rich environment.
You're always going to suffer this fate not 'investing' a substantial amount of time, so the first thing to do is realize that the most you're ever going to get out of the game is the inter-character relationships and adventure. And if the adventure you momentarily find lacking due to lack of progression and inability to go someplace 'new' (and they will all become old at some point you should know... avoid the locust behavior and find contentment in flat out rp)... befriend a dwarven battlecleric a few levels higher then you and go hunt giants. That's what I did. Thanks Harg.
Your time limitations seem to not allow most GM quests. I'm assuming your 6 hours a week is spread out. I'd maybe PM folks like Idii or Enzo and ask them for advice. Forums rarely get you anywhere except down the road of two cents (see IdiotNoob's post). The folks that have been here a long time are nice folks that know the ropes. If you're cool about what you ask, I'm sure they'll be cool back. I mean... no one is purposefully unhelpful until you give them a reason to be.
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I understand the frustration you are going through, seeing many other characters you may have helped at lower levels surpassing you quickly. Just remember the fun in Rping. You do gain xp slower than most because of your subrace (+2 ECL I believe) but that was a choice for RP, which it sounds like you enjoy doing.
My characters also gain xp slower (+3 ECL) but I chose the subrace for the enjoyment of RP, Twixel is asked on many quests just because of the friends he has made. Others don't look at him for his levels but what he can contribute to the party in RP. I have been playing Twixel for a while now and he is only 10th but I don't care because he is a fun character, liked him so much that I created another svirfneblin character.
As the others said, the levels will come just be patient and have fun. I'd say hook up with Twixel for some adventure, but unfortunately you are drow. (hehe)
HAVE FUN!
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Now to throw in my two-bob's worth...
Find yourself a clan/group/guild/faction to become involved with. The enjoyment of my char, Ramanon Vensk, picked up dramatically when I joined Marcus and Chanda as a Corathite. Half of our fun is spent consipiring via emails and PM's, now with the Corath Thread its even better. Then we set it into RP online and thats the icing on the cake.
We level slow, and yes I've helped people to gain some xp early, only to see them pass me like lightning. It used to bother me but then I think of the impact they have had on the world. The answer is usualy none.
At the end of the day I like to think Ramanon and his comrads contribute to shaping Layonara through the discretion of the L & the GM team. I mean what could be better then plunging Layonara into darkness? (just kidding folks....or am I?)
Anyway happy RPing and good luck.
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If you want XP, go on DM quests. Period. That's all there is to it. The rest is fine, sure; grab a single tank and let him run you through Haven a few times; jump up to level seven in a week. I can easily see that being pretty good RP, too, but that's beside the point: Your focus right now is on the XP, right? *He shakes his head.* Go on DM quests.
Or, gods forbid, don't worry about the XP at all, and just have fun.
Cheers.
Ok, I didnt wrote this topic, because I was desperate in getting to lvl 9. It was just when I reached the 80.000xp I thought, hmm Im half the way, but it have really taken a long time, and Ive seen people raise like... Yep so maybe I should ask for an advice. I did knew the posibility in finding some 20 lvl char and let him kill some 18 lvl monsters, but Ive never do that, cause that is hack'n slash when its really pointless. Ive tried once, in a quest, I didnt know it was for high lvls until I was there. I dont think my char could damage any of the monsters at all, it became boring very fast. No what I find fun is to have a nice chat with some chars, usually no matter lvl but for the following to work the same lvl as I, and then go out and see the world. Now if you're all are at the same lvl there is no useless sneaker, no mage who cast a magic missile while another cast dragon breath, no fighter who kills the enemy so fast that the others cant run fast enough. Thats really really fun. Some of the xp im most proud of are those 2000 - 3000 hard earned xp. But the fun mostly lies in seing new places, and Ive seen every place for my lvl in mistone many times. Ive tried once to go on Dregar with another at my lvl and we didnt have a chance. It would be nice to have a companion. It would greatly improve my RP posibilities instead of the usual talk, really my char have RP'ed nearly everything possible at her lvl without a CDQ.
Anyway Ive found the way to get xp now and then. 52000 for four hours with Leanther as a GM. Though it tastes a litlle bitter, the RP conversations and exploring without a GM, those hundred hours, was equally good. I think the xp for quests is a bit strange.
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"...Anyway Ive found the way to get xp now and then. 52000 for four hours with Leanther as a GM. Though it tastes a litlle bitter, the RP conversations and exploring without a GM, those hundred hours, was equally good. I think the xp for quests is a bit strange...."
It is not normally that much, just so you know, there was a bonus hour in there due to something that had been happening in the plot for about 3 years (and it was slightly more than 4 hours). As to thinking xp for quests is a bit strange, I guess I don't understand that comment.
What I am hearing here, and hopefully I am wrong, is that it is a no win situation for you... don't explore and play because you don't get much xp, thusly a bitter pill sort of thing, and don't quest because it is not fair or strange.
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p>What I am hearing here, and hopefully I am wrong, is that it is a no win situation for you... don't explore and play because you don't get much xp, thusly a bitter pill sort of thing, and don't quest because it is not fair or strange.
? I dont fully undersstand that? eh what I think is, the hours of RP without a GM is as good as with one. So the huge amount you get for quest is to big, cause it unbalances the game. Someone could be playing only on DM quest and be lvl 20 without knowing anything about the areas, compared to a lvl 10. But whatever the greatest joy goes to the lvl 10, in my opinion.
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ok a bitter taste: Ive RP'ed, Ive worked hard for those 80000xp. They have memories on them. In four hours Ive done 5/8 of that. The 80000xp are the indeed hard earned, while the 52000 is the, "played the level, on to the nest one." Im happy fot those 52000 cause in 4000 I be able to get a little bit further out, and with others at lvl 9 maybe to Dregar. So the 80000 is the RP the 52000 is getting on to the nest RP/exploring (mostly exploring).
....what to say? If I havent earned the 80000xp already, the 52000 would have been way too much. But thinking of all the time Ive spent on the 80000 the 52000 does good. So Im quite happy for the 52000, but much more for the 80000, cause they've got some nice memories.
Heh hope we soon will be able to get into that lair on Dregar Spugle.
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Niles09 - 11/15/2005 8:40 AM
ok a bitter taste: Ive RP'ed, Ive worked hard for those 80000xp. They have memories on them. In four hours Ive done 5/8 of that. The 80000xp are the indeed hard earned, while the 52000 is the, "played the level, on to the nest one." Im happy fot those 52000 cause in 4000 I be able to get a little bit further out, and with others at lvl 9 maybe to Dregar. So the 80000 is the RP the 52000 is getting on to the nest RP/exploring (mostly exploring).
....what to say? If I havent earned the 80000xp already, the 52000 would have been way too much. But thinking of all the time Ive spent on the 80000 the 52000 does good. So Im quite happy for the 52000, but much more for the 80000, cause they've got some nice memories.
Heh hope we soon will be able to get into that lair on Dregar Spugle.
Uhhh... OK so I'm confused. So first you wanted advice about how to get XP because you were stuck at level 8... how people were passing you etc.
A number of people said go on GM quests
You go on a GM quest and get a nice chunk of XP
And now that is too much and you are still not satisfied. . .
*blinks blinks
I don't know how to address your lack of satifaction in the rate in which you receive XP... first too little now too much but I would like to address your concern about the size of the XP reward you received from Saturday's Quest.
Try to look at it as "Experience"... not just experience points. Do you have any idea what happened in Saturdays Quest? I'll tell you... it was more than harrassing and reducing the ogre population in the woods or caves.
I will just say this... when a group of characters take an action that could impact the outcome of a campaign or effect the world itself on so many levels. . . the characters have gained much more than just a group of points. So the "reward" is much greater as a result.
If you get a chance I would like to see what you think happened on Saturday. . .
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You said exactly what I would have said Cappyra. Thank you.
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Cappy is right on target. The XP from quests is so much greater because they have a much greater impact on the world than, say, you getting a group together to kill ogres and mine iron. There are usually at least two quest series going that have real, and sometimes severe, impacts on the world of Layonara, and, as Cappy said, that is more of an 'experience' than your character may even realize he/she is going through. And, of course, CDQ's speak for themselves, in that, they are designed around some major life changing experience for a character, and so they will entail more XP mechanically.
I agree, that often times the general adventuring your character takes on can often be more fun and rewarding (if not mechanically, then ascetically) for your character than even the best quests you manage to be a part of. But the experience that comes with that, is not in the mechanical XP department, but in the character development department. You learn how to survive, ambush, use the terrain to your advantage (without abusing AI terribly, of course), find like-minded companions, find purpose for your character, etc. And you've alluded to this. So enjoy it, and realize that there is a purpose and sound reasoning behind the way the world runs, with quests and otherwise.
And, hey, I'm glad you voice your opinions and concerns about playing here. I can tell you enjoy it here, and want to gain the full experience of playing here. Don't worry. Understanding and knowledge come with time. Keep playing.
EDIT: dang me not typing this up quick enough. 'L' popped a post in before me =P.
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And now that is too much and you are still not satisfied. . .
You've heard of the golden midlleway? I am satisfied, cause Ive done a lot before those xp.
(ok deleted the descriptive part)
Ok, what I think of all this? dunno I would rather say what Zanirth would think. If our victory depends on wether the humanoids from the cities and villages unite with the woodlands we are doomed. Cause Ive seen how humans thread nature. If the humans only can think on retreat then we all will end up on Mistone, with our backs against the wall.
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erm, I think he (Cappy) meant for you to explain all that in a tell or IC.... try not to give too much plot away in the forums, pretty please...
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OK that was sort of description of the events that took place on Saturday's Quest. . . but what REALLY happened?
Then some shadow thing appears
That was The Shifter... you should really find out who he is. . .
What you should do is speak IG with some of the characters that were involved in the quest. Ask them about the significance of the events. Not understanding everything is OK. There were events spoke about that only a few would have knowledge of anyway. But take the time to gain an understanding of what the group accomplished.
This was only the second quest I have had the privilage and pleasure to attend with Leanthar at the reigns. Everything else I have learned from reading the history and talking with people.
I would suggest getting involved in the main campaign, even if it is just making yourself knowledgable about what is going on. Talk to as many people as possible. Your character was called by the dragon... maybe try to find out where you fit in?
Did you ever consider. . . the the War Blood is waging is merely a distraction? Something to keep the hero's busy while he follows his real agenda?
Have you considered there are many factions with things at stake here? and many do not have agendas that are aligned. . .
Plot twists should be appealing to a Drow =D
- I hope I didn't give too much away there Milton... =P
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*grins*
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maybe... but so long I havent asked cause my char didnt care. She is a bit skeptical about the humanoids outside the forests, they've never done anything for the forest so why should she care about them? Anyway I didnt felt like asking people about the Shifter or such things at that time... On the underdark quest I did ask about some assassian guy. I got his name, and that he was very dangareous, after asking a couple more times, I just felt stupid cause nobody answered, so I thought that this time I would rather be the quite drow than the asking-a-lot drow.
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perhaps, now, then, your character has the reason, the care, to ask about more of the world.... though during a DM quest is usually a bad time... perhaps you and a few others could make your own quest of finding someone who does know/know of, say, the Shifter (like the NPC plot quests splattered around Layo).
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actually once in the start I did ask about it all, since there was some guy, Eon I think, who destroyed the forests. Though never got an answer, but I think that was mainly because the guy was teasing my char. Now there is probaly going to go a long time before my char is gonna help the humans, who are spitting and screaming of Zanirth because of her colour. Ofcourse she have also maked many friends among the humans, much more than those who spits at her - among players, though in my char sheet under the drow feat, it says she is being stonned out of smaller towns. Also she kinda feel that the surfacers have betrayed her race, killing them instead of helping them to see the light.
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Right on MiltonYorkCastle
Wow... and more opportunities to RP!!!
There are other Drow around that you could ask. . . that are fighting against Blood and likely can understand your plight and hatred...
Or... try something like this...
"I seek knowledge of what occured. I felt caught up in the events and seek understanding. While I have no love for the surface dwellers I was compelled to aid them. The Shadow... the one they called the Shifter.. I felt compelled to aid."
"Bah! Yer a murderous drow! Why should I tell you?"
"Because I wish to help stop Blood."
"Blood has Drow working for him! Your probably a spy!"
"If I were a spy... would I ask you in the open? In the middle of town? Or would I catch you in a back alley and extract the information by other means. . ."
"er... good point... well here is what I know..."
Ta Da!
=D
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hmmm, maybe she should start asking, though you must understand, she doesnt hate anything. Its rather that the surfacers havent done anything to her, except for those few (compared to the 2000 population of Hlint) who have helped her, while the forest itself (she feels) have saved and protected her, so the forest is first, anything else second. Ive wrote some down in the newest post in her journal. She doesnt feel that Blood is a bigger thread to the forest than the humanoids outside it. BUT a thing is, because of her background she consider having a familiy (where people actually likes eachother) is the biggest thing you can achive, so the reason for her to help would be protecting those. Though that wouldnt be in the traditional way since she doesnt like the autorites or the metodes (a comment on that on the war effort topich in wild surge inn) like she thought it was leaving the citizens first to think of getting the Rolmen (or whatever) navy away.
Anyway then it would only work if people actually would start answering.
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"..if people actually would start answering.."
I have a one word answer to that: Bards.
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miltonyorkcastle - 11/15/2005 3:29 PM
"..if people actually would start answering.."
I have a one word answer to that: Bards.
Kudo!
Though another group who would probably answer you would be well-wandered Adventurers who, themselves, refer to them by that particular title.
^^ -shameless plug-
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They'd have to know the answer to be able to respond with anything useful, right? :)
Responding to shameless plugs with guilt-free digs,
Acacea
(Snicker.)
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Bump, Set, Spike! *shifty eyes* oh wait... we weren't playing volleyball were we?
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about fighting Blood, it seems that Zanirth now is an honor member of the giants brigade, so I guess she is gonna fight against them. Maybe the human autorities doesnt deserve such a help (asking Zanirth) but she would probaly help Spugle defend Mistone all alone if he asked (though she would try to get him on other thoughts first!)
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Niles09 - 11/15/2005 2:40 PM
ok a bitter taste: Ive RP'ed, Ive worked hard for those 80000xp. They have memories on them. In four hours Ive done 5/8 of that. The 80000xp are the indeed hard earned, while the 52000 is the, "played the level, on to the nest one." Im happy fot those 52000 cause in 4000 I be able to get a little bit further out, and with others at lvl 9 maybe to Dregar. So the 80000 is the RP the 52000 is getting on to the nest RP/exploring (mostly exploring).
....what to say? If I havent earned the 80000xp already, the 52000 would have been way too much. But thinking of all the time Ive spent on the 80000 the 52000 does good. So Im quite happy for the 52000, but much more for the 80000, cause they've got some nice memories.
Heh hope we soon will be able to get into that lair on Dregar Spugle.
*looks serious*
If you think you have gotton to much exp, I would suggest that you go to the "Disputes, Grievances, Request for Reimbursements" section and ask them to remove some of the exp. I don't know if they will follow your request since the rules have changed, but you can always give it a try.
Furthermore, the Dm's are resonable people and I don't think they want to annoy people by giving them to much exp, just tell them the maximum amount you want to recieeve and i am sure they will be understanding.
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Thanks for the advice but arent we past this?
As Cappyra (after I wrote the thing you quoted) said this quest is important for the world, though it might not have such big impact on Zanirth just the second we were finished, she has felt the shockwaves. First she's now a honour member of the giant brigade, which for her means a lot to her, since one of her best friends is in it. Besides she has already been a bit in on uniting nature and the tamed lands, discussing with some pala guy I think, a discussion wich had some consequences. Should some Mistone soldier come and ask Zanirth for aid now the chance that she would help is about zero!
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Apsalutly Zan Spugly just can not wait.
We have Zan in the giants brigade becuse Shes has a grate hart is a true fight and
has never run when fighting with any gaint by her side. That means a lot to us
But she also its a grate help as Zan seems to know whats going on and has never tryed to trick
or chat a of the half gaints. That means you are trused but also meens we are relying on you to
full us in on things. As Spugly is very very stuben (like most of the half gaints) it takes a long time
to change his mind about any thing.
Now as a player the 52k was very good as im 10k from my next level 9th which opens up a hole new world.
The game a feel was good to as it was mine and Niles09's 1st time.
We had a chance to play in a world changeing game which was good as well. Its all new to me as
they seem not about bashing but about laying out what will come in the game world.
What we do in the GM games inpacks on playing on the severs in a way I did not know till after the game.
But I know what Niles09 on about you just dont wont to wast of the Layonara Expirance
(thats why I dont get cheats, the funs in the playing of each and every level and its chalinges)
by running befor you can walk.
But saying that the exp was very very apreshesated
The morrel is
Be carfull what you wish for you mite just get it