The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rasterick on November 30, 2005, 06:35:00 AM
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I often read peoples character development threads; and notice a worrying trend developing. It may just be be me getting paranoid, but there seems to be a plethora of permenant deaths recently.
This may be viewed as morbid, but out of nothing more than curiousity. How many of you good folks have gone on the long walk, shuffled off your mortal coils, curled up your toes etc etc.. and died a permanent death.? :(
An even more morbid question, how many of you are so close (1 or 2 DTs away from dying) to it that, you even avoid the ravens to the West of Hlint, for fear of ending up a permanent guest of the Soul Mother.
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Well... something that's kinda funny is a lot of the people getting Permed either (A) Die a lot... and by a lot I mean err... three times in a day some times. (B) Have been around for a long long time. (C) Have rotten luck *looks to Quil*
I myself am at Death Token number 8... however I've been playing Tath for fourteen months and I am neither hiding in Hlint from the baddies nor afraid of Permanently Dying... if it happens it happens, but I'll play him as I always have to the end.
Now something really scary is there's more than a couple Epic characters that haven't even broken five DTs. :o That's just cwazy.
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I'm currently at 8 tokens with Geir who started on 2/2-05 and since I don't die that often I guess I fall into the rotten luck category ;)
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Maybe we should have a retired adventurers club? All with 8+ tokens are free to join, characters sit there and play demon cards all day :)
Seriously though, such an amount of DTs is caused by our death system. I am in no way critisising it, it is simply a fact. People fear death less, as there is no direct penatly other than a chance to get a token, as such they they are more willing to adventure and take risks.
But the luckiest Layonara character has to be Eldoran. He was a fighter who reached epic and had 0 tokens. Besides that he found so many emeralds and diamonds that it was simply insane.
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yeah, I've noticed the trend as well. It seems many of those that have perma-died are from Cole's 'generation,' that is, they started playing about the same time I started playing Cole. Cole has 8 DT's as well. of course, when I started here, I didn't even know you could perma-die, much less what a DT was. I managed 3 or 4 of them before I even realized what they were. I gained a much healthier respect for death after I figured it out. Cole has been around almost 10 months real time.
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If you notice the new daisies in serpent mountain on the far side of the hill from black hills, you have seen the final resting spot for Yar. (cool cut scene, but not worth the price of admission). Happened last weekend. Dorax is at 9 DT's and has reduced his play time accordingly. Yar had been on light duty for quite a while after getting in 9th. It's a dangerous world sometimes. We had been collecting silver, fire opals, dire bear and so on for quite a while. When it is 1100 at night and you all say "sure, why not bugbears" you sometimes wish you could rethink that after a good night's sleep. I'm sure Yar will be posting more on this.
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Well Jacchri has 9 tokens. As Cole has stated I never really thought about tokens as it was something that in my mind was was really hard to get (1 out 90 chance for a lvl 10 char).
But alas he got to 9 not by dying a lot in my opinion but rather having some rotten luck with the dicebag. That does not mean he will retire, I will continue to play him as I used to do and just hope the dice favors him when death decides to come knocking.
Jacchri has been around since 1 May 2005 (7 months).
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Berdin is level 12, and has 7 I think. Mostly because as a battle priest of Vorax it fits his character to be there, in battle, casting healing spells on his comrades, trying to turn the tide of battle. if and when he perms it will be a glorious battle I'm sure.
Vyris
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Tha'Azail has 8 death tokens, some of them from his bad habit of rushing in with the healing before the foe is distracted. Some from charging toward the enemy when he meant to charge away from them. :) Other than staying away from snakes for awhile Tha' has no plans to slow down or semi-retire. Blood has not been defeated and undead still roam the land.
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Meizter - 11/30/2005 4:32 PM I'm currently at 8 tokens with Geir who started on 2/2-05 and since I don't die that often I guess I fall into the rotten luck category ;)
Actually.... you're in the top ten of deaths on # 8 (with 70 deaths).
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EdTheKet - 11/30/2005 4:33 PM Actually.... you're in the top ten of deaths on # 8 (with 70 deaths).
Now there's a Top Ten list I'd love to see. (Or even a Top 100)
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Heh, me too. What a sight that list must be.
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I wanna know where I am on that list!
Talan has 7 DTs (my only character that has any DTs) He got 4 of them on two quests. 2 at a bloodpool (auto token) 2 in a row on one of the recent plot quests, so thats 4 from L :P
2 from Pan... or 3 I cant remember and if that 3rd wasnt from Pan I don't remember who I got it from.
I've never gotten a DT outside of a quest. Uh... maybe that should be telling me something...? ;)
All of the DT's I've gotten barring the 2 at the bloodwell (which were from being pounded into goo by a quasi or para elemental) were from either stunning fist, then getting beaten on the head, or fear aura then getting beaten on the head.
For the love of will saves!
-TV
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EdTheKet - 11/30/2005 10:33 PM Meizter - 11/30/2005 4:32 PM I'm currently at 8 tokens with Geir who started on 2/2-05 and since I don't die that often I guess I fall into the rotten luck category ;)
Actually.... you're in the top ten of deaths on # 8 (with 70 deaths).
wow! I know I died a lot in the beginning before I learnt that bards are miserable in a fight, but 70...that's....well a lot really. just strike my previous statement then ;) I just die a lot.
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Heheh, only one DT yet at lvl 14. Although I would appreciate it more, if I had obtained it during an important quest instead of while gathering honey and forgetting to cast invisibility.
If I do not include my latest death, all of them were pretty stupid.
- Forgetting to buff before attacking a group of ogres
- Crashing in the middle of a fight, relogging on so I could crash again and getting killed.
- Using the dispelling rune instead of the illusion rune while standing in the middle of a group of undeath.
- Taking revenge on a young drake
- Forgetting to cast invisiblity before getting honey near mentioned drake
- Forgetting to cast invisiblity before entering an ogre cave
- (Update on stupid deaths) Just misclicked in the dialogue menu when speaking to the captain in Lorindar. Got sent to Tibum, where there was a guard of Bloodstone standing at my spawnpoint. :S
I think, excluding my latest death, my last normal death was being sliced up by a marilith on an orcquest. Although I figured out since then that it was my own fault. I casted darkness while invisible not knowing that it is considered a hostile action. :S
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Aralin has only 3 tokens at level 13, i think that is amazing since i've died a lot! I guess i'm probably stealing people's good luck ;)
None of my other characters have any, though i don't play them as often as Aralin.
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only 7 deaths? You aren't playing hard enough, man... ;)
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I kinda die a lot as if the group starts hitten trouble, I say hey, its a game, the others take it more seriously and would rather not die so I tend to put myself on the line. Sometimes I'm just stupid too :D Roshnak is level 10 and only has 3 tokens I think.
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Meizter - 11/30/2005 5:20 PM EdTheKet - 11/30/2005 10:33 PM Meizter - 11/30/2005 4:32 PM I'm currently at 8 tokens with Geir who started on 2/2-05 and since I don't die that often I guess I fall into the rotten luck category ;)
Actually.... you're in the top ten of deaths on # 8 (with 70 deaths).
wow! I know I died a lot in the beginning before I learnt that bards are miserable in a fight, but 70...that's....well a lot really. just strike my previous statement then ;) I just die a lot.
Actually those figured Ed gave you were outdated. You're now ranked 14th with 95 deaths.
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And the 100th gives you an automatic DT. ;)
About my list by the way, those were just a few of my 'stupid' deaths. I'm sure I died a bit more than that, like 30 times or so.
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I'm in the top ten with deaths aren't I
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Well, I've been playing long enough and done more stupid things than you can shake a stick at. I'd be surprised if I wasn't well over 100 deaths by now and yet I am still kicking, though just barely.
YT
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Those records are only since we started keeping track. Which was in January.
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You should print the table .. i bet Ravenne, may she rest in peace, is near the top ;)
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"....Actually those figured Ed gave you were outdated. You're now ranked 14th with 95 deaths...."
But you are improving in ranking!! :)
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Hmmm....well most of my deaths were pre-January. I suspect I have had only 20 or so since then, so nevermind. I'm way behind in this list, which for once is a good thing.
YT
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Evil Dad - 12/1/2005 12:21 AM
You should print the table .. i bet Ravenne, may she rest in peace, is near the top ;)
Close! 3rd with 117
Can't make the list public for those who don't wish it known. I also shouldn't be making this a habit or I'll get 25 PMs asking how many times someone has died and what position they are in. So last death count until furthur notice!
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Leanthar - 11/30/2005 10:22 PM "....Actually those figured Ed gave you were outdated. You're now ranked 14th with 95 deaths...."
But you are improving in ranking!! :)
Is improving good? or bad? hehe Aww orth, I want to know where talan is! -TV
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Talan Va'lash - 12/1/2005 1:04 AM Leanthar - 11/30/2005 10:22 PM "....Actually those figured Ed gave you were outdated. You're now ranked 14th with 95 deaths...."
But you are improving in ranking!! :)
Is improving good? or bad? hehe Aww orth, I want to know where talan is! -TV
*Lalaith points at Talan with an arrow*
Talan is... going to be a little further up the list if he doesn't stop shooting arrows in the house!
*shakes the arrow at him*
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Phhhhway... soul mother? Heck, I'm afraid of Laliath...
Vyris
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orth - 12/1/2005 5:32 AM
Evil Dad - 12/1/2005 12:21 AM
You should print the table .. i bet Ravenne, may she rest in peace, is near the top ;)
Close! 3rd with 117
Can't make the list public for those who don't wish it known. I also shouldn't be making this a habit or I'll get 25 PMs asking how many times someone has died and what position they are in. So last death count until furthur notice!
hehe .. but considering the short time she has been on here that's not bad going .. she had class :D
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orth - 12/1/2005 5:32 AM
Evil Dad - 12/1/2005 12:21 AM
You should print the table .. i bet Ravenne, may she rest in peace, is near the top ;)
Close! 3rd with 117
Can't make the list public for those who don't wish it known. I also shouldn't be making this a habit or I'll get 25 PMs asking how many times someone has died and what position they are in. So last death count until furthur notice!
hehe .. but considering the short time she has been on here that's not bad going .. she had class :D
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Leanthar - 12/1/2005 6:22 AM "....Actually those figured Ed gave you were outdated. You're now ranked 14th with 95 deaths...."
But you are improving in ranking!! :)
*cheers* only 14th with 95... :)
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My character Taislin is level 8 with 8 DTs. 3 of them I got in 2 days, two of them in under 1 minute, and I can't remember the others. He's been here for just a little over 4 months.
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I know Cole has to be in the top ten for deaths. He died like mad when I first started playing. I'm honestly surprised he isn't already permadead.
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Wow! Now hear is a strange twist of fate ... Ravenne had been waiting for ages to find someone to make her a platinum chainshirt to protect her better. She even went down into haven mines on her own to get the platinum ready. Well, she finally found someone to make it .... Yar! Soon after he had made her this armour they both fell, in completely un-connected circumstances .. or were they??? Is there some curse at work?
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A curse or a blessing? Coincidence, or fate? Is death the beginning, or the end? Perhaps it was Sy's destiny to join Yar in the afterlife...
"Yar and Sy, sittin' on a cloud, K-I-S-S-I-N-G, first......"
;)
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Zan is lvl 9 with one DT. She died faster than she could spent her money in the start. heh I remember I couldnt get home from Rilara when I was new, but I remembered that I was bound on Mistone, so suddenly Zan feeled like exploring...... Then I got pretty shocked later, when she got her first DT at lvl 6. Since then Ive been a bit more careful!
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Storold level 8, two DT's... He has died countless times. the first DT was from dying three times in a row, tells a bit about how much he cared for dying before he became a paladin. The second was from Bloods attack at Fort Velensk and was just bad luck but I would proberly had gotten one anyway if I didn't have to go in the middle of the attack...
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Derrick is level 18 and has 8 DTs... but I would guess that I am not very high on the total deaths list. I just have rotten luck against the Soul Mother =P
So will I retire? Not likely... just check my sig.
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you like the big red button, eh?