The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Acro on December 20, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
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Looking forward to nwn 2?
or is that a stupid question...? ;)
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I sure am, but not in a "hell yeah kind of fashion. I just hope its good enough to even be considered for layonara.
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I've been following the development for about a year. Soo... hell yeah!
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I haven't really seen much, or been bothered to keep an eye out for it. It only matters to me if...
a) It's backward compatable with the current version.
b) It supports multiplayer on the scale of this version.
c) It's customizable to the point where we can make a transition from Layonara to 'Layonara, NwN2 edition'
If those things aren't happening (especially conversion of NwN files, haks, etc. to NwN2) I can't see Layonara being rebuilt with NwN2. I'll care when it becomes a reality and I know how, or if, it will impact me here.
Vyris
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*giggles*
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Celgar 2.0 any one?
If there is EVER a way to maly layonara 2 I am planning on making the magnus blood line survive in some strange way
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I'm probably not going to buy it unless layonara gets transferred at some point, which obviously leaves me no choice ;)
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I'll probably buy it whether Layonara get's transferred or not (which it will I'm confident). If not because it's going to be a great game, probably because it'll be the first game I've bought since HotU a couple years ago... (yeah that's right)
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Till then we can dream of what Oblivion is gonna be like
any one!?
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must say,
I'd only get it if Layo goes to it... I never REALLY played NWN, except on here... too easy to level. (HA!)
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orth - 12/20/2005 11:03 AM
*giggles*
And yet again, I'm suspicious that Orth is getting some guilty glee out of some secret knowledge!
*shakes his fist impudently* Why oh why must you mock us with your omniscience!
*chuckles*
Vyris
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Vyris - 12/20/2005 6:54 PM
orth - 12/20/2005 11:03 AM
*giggles*
And yet again, I'm suspicious that Orth is getting some guilty glee out of some secret knowledge!
*shakes his fist impudently* Why oh why must you mock us with your omniscience!
*chuckles*
Vyris
If I knew what that word meant, I'd agree with you.. :o
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GM on GM violence....is this what ths product foretells?
*Sigh*
Between Layo...Oblivion and NWN2....it looks like I'm back to being a shut in.
YAAAAY!
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Once Layos got the upgrade I'll get NWN2.It will rock :) :o
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If Layo will be adapted to Nwn2, i'll play it, if not, i'll still play it, but for a far shorter time. :)
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Vyris - 12/20/2005 1:54 PM
orth - 12/20/2005 11:03 AM
*giggles*
And yet again, I'm suspicious that Orth is getting some guilty glee out of some secret knowledge!
*shakes his fist impudently* Why oh why must you mock us with your omniscience!
*chuckles*
Vyris
Don't worry Vyris. Orth just got into Doc's goofballs. It's the maniacal, "I'm going to take over the world!" laugh that you need to be worried about.
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orth already has control of the world. :)
*giggles*
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Naw that's just the computer world...
Just turn your head away from the monitor like so.... *struggles*
Like so....*strains*
Nooooooo!
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*wipes forehead* whew, I'm glad somebody's got this 'world' business taken care of. I was afraid I'd have to do something about it, otherwise Doc might beat me to it. Speaking of... has anyone seen Doc since... oh crap... DOC!!! Get out of there before you.... EEYYAAHHH !!!
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I'm going to buy it the second it comes out. Then I'm going to help convert Layonara to it. It's going to take a lot more than the current content team can do to keep Layo going and largely redo everything. Orth may be omniscient, but even he's not omnipotent. Is he?
Multi-modal editor, here I come. Look out Wolfswood, here comes fractal based foliage. Rolling Hills, with (almost) real multiheight terrain (ok, still no Z axis). Scripts that take variables -- woot woot. I think I'll use the tools more than I play the game. * pauses, thinks a bit * Well, at least as much as I play the game.
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Rasterick - 12/20/2005 12:13 PM
Vyris - 12/20/2005 6:54 PM
orth - 12/20/2005 11:03 AM
*giggles*
And yet again, I'm suspicious that Orth is getting some guilty glee out of some secret knowledge!
*shakes his fist impudently* Why oh why must you mock us with your omniscience!
*chuckles*
Vyris
If I knew what that word meant, I'd agree with you.. :o
@Rasterick - From wikipedia.
Omniscience is the capacity to know everything, or at least everything that can be known about a character/s including thoughts, feelings, etc. In monotheism, this ability is typically attributed to God. It is typically contrasted with omnipotence. Omniscience is sometimes understood to also imply the capacity to know everything that will be.
Vyris
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Dorganath - 12/20/2005 11:46 AM orth already has control of the world. :)
*giggles*
Ah, the beauty of Reagan's Star Wars Project... so easily accessable via bunker in Canada, and so much like a Death Star! Now if he could only take over the MTV satellites to blast some Sly and the Family Stone...
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Dorganath - 12/20/2005 2:46 PM orth already has control of the world. :)
*giggles*
I think it is pretty clear from the giggling that you must be in on it with Orth. Hand over the goofballs and no one gets hurt.
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I would like to honestly and humble appologize for starting the shameless string of posts that ended up hijacking this thread...
with that being said!
Avast ye! Hand over yer topics and nobuddy needs te get 'urt!
Aye! All yer threads, they be belongin te me now!
HAR!
Vyris
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*goes looking for Doc's medicine* Where did we put that? We need extra doses today.
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After reading these responses so far... I'd like to just state one simple thing...
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*let's loose a rather loud and obnoxiously maniacal "I'm going to take over the world!" kind of laugh*
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heh.
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Back on topic (heh, sorry guys) if Layo gets converted, I'll definately get it. If not, I may get it anyway, but just not play it as much. However, any help needed to convert it, I'll be glad to jump on board!
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*Pulls out a large hatpin*
Hmmm the only things compatible between the two games will be scripts and dialouge....
This would require a rather complete rebuild.....card updates in players systems....*continues to count small details*...the server upgrade alone...hmmm
I like a good maniacal laugh by a GM as much as the next person...but I think thier bluffing
*POP*
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but I think thier bluffing
Haha... hahahahahahaha.... muhahahahahahhahahahahahah!
There is so little that has been leaked to the general Layonara community... hehe... hehehehehe.... muhahahahahahahahaha!
ha!
*coughs as he chokes on the last "ha!"*
heh err yeah... *ducks out of the room quickly*
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STOP what about our Mac and Linix users?
*goes to cry*
I've had this mac for 2 years no antivirus no firewall no viruses
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Vyris - 12/20/2005 11:54 AM
orth - 12/20/2005 11:03 AM
*giggles*
And yet again, I'm suspicious that Orth is getting some guilty glee out of some secret knowledge!
*shakes his fist impudently* Why oh why must you mock us with your omniscience!
*chuckles*
Vyris
You obviously need to check out the dev boards on NWN2... you will cackle with glee at the possibilities.
Backwards compatible?.. not so far as I know..
Just the weather and terrain effects made me have to change my shorts.
The sheer customizability of the monsters, items, terrain, scripts, ectetra is mind boggeling
I think you will be pleasantly thrilled by what Orth is giggling over.
Even things like scripting are taken to whole new level of cool.
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Zen - 12/20/2005 4:49 PM
STOP what about our Mac and Linix users?
*goes to cry*
I've had this mac for 2 years no antivirus no firewall no viruses
See, not even the hackers bother making software for macintoss.
*giggles and runs away*
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Don't be so quick to pop the bubble. I know other people who have invested an incredible amount of time in their own servers and are already making plans with the Developers info for NWN2.
There is a ton of info out there and the more I read the more I believe a transition to NWN2 is more and more possible, not to mention excitingly feasable. You will find that NWN2's system will use reasources MUCH more effiently... allowing for MORE areas, monsters, diversification, modding, and others. With the ability to "generate" completely unique terrains with individualy distinct trees from a single tree build is only a breath of the abilities of this new world creator. NWN2 is going to be the DM's friend and the players dream.
For our players, look forward to fully customizable faces... from eyes to hair color to builds.... cothing rendering has been completely redone A'la World of Warcraft. No longer shall we suffer the dangly cloth sheet! We also get access to the complete range of playable races as well as a new base class... the "Warlock"... reputed to have the power to cast magic as an ability... no preperation and no limit to number of uses... however he gains his power even slower than the sorcerer.
Developers will love the Creature generator, the terrain generator, the complete removal of "tile" sets allows for the creation of truely UNIQUE areas!.. monster generators will provide monsters of varition... from armor, color, size, and features. *possible* dynamic scaling of creatures. Ambient wind, rain, weather generators the produce natural transitions from sunny day to wispy clouds, overcast, rainy, even full on storms and a full range of environmental effects with the terrain responding in proper fashion. *possible* gales, flooding, ect.
The more I read, the more I think that a switch to NWN2 is possible. Also I think the Dev team has access to information I do not. And with my friend already keeping secret plans for *his* server, I am more inclined to think that there is some Dev information out there that Bioware may have made available to the upper ranking player worlds.
Just my thoughts
I expect to see a statue of Weston Pendrot in Layo2
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Conspiracy!!!
They have Doc talking straight....you know I'm right...
Not of the body!
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*Ahem*
"I expect to see a statue of Weston Pendrot in Layo2"
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Doc-Holiday - 12/21/2005 1:30 AM
*Ahem*
"I expect to see a statue of Weston Pendrot in Layo2"
Click on the statue and you'll roll 1d20. Roll a critical failure and you'll get a nice treat. :)
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To my knowledge there isn't or wasn't going to be a Linux version of NWN2. Go petition them to make it Linux compliant.
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Omniscience = omni (from Latin omnia, all) + science (from Latin scientia, knowledge)
Of course, it isn't pronounced "omni science," but "om-NISH-ens."
Language is fun.
And on topic, I don't ever think about NwN2.
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Considering that most view me as a Linux zealot of sorts you can rest assured that it grates against my skin like the worlds largest cheese grater.... _however_ nowhere that I've found have "they" said there will _never_ be MAC or Linux ports. They will support Linux servers which is a good indicator of a future potentiality.
Overall though, I'm expecting to have to jerry-rig things using cedega or the likes of nwwinex to get things going in Linux. Being that OSX is based on FreeBSD I would also expect to be able to do whatever we can on Linux in OSX as well though admittedly it will take more effort to get running.
There is hope.
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ok, I have to admit that was funny with the exception of the abuse of the word "hackers (http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html)".
Please... pretty pretty please (and this is a message to everyone, not just Vyris) STOP SAYING HACKERS (http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html) WHEN YOU SHOULD BE SAYING CRACKERS (http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/C/cracker.html)!
Sorry for this interruption in your regularly scheduled forum thread.
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Did I miss something?
Gulnyr either said something COMPLETELY random... or Vyris removed his post.
*crosses fingers hoping Gulnyrs finaly cracked*
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Hmm not sure that NWN2 is going to be feasible for Layo since it won't have epic levels. See
http://www.sorcerers.net/Main/Articles/nwn2_interview.php
*sighs* A pity too since they've actually got the ranger right at last too, ie: he can actually choose between being an archer or a melee fighter as per rule book.
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Nwn 1 didn't have epic levels until it's last expansion, HOTU.
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I am actually looking forward to NWN2, not following the previews and details though, seems rather pointless to me, when it's out, it's out :)
Currently there are two types of games. Ones with the flashy graphics that get boring after a day of play and the ones with aged graphics that are interesting to play. So I hope that Layonara and NWN2 will make world that has it all.
PS. I am certainly glad they are making NWN2 the way NWN was. I hate the latest fashion to make mmorpgs or whatever they are named. *frowns* Simply a money making scam!
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I also imagine that if Layo converts to NWN2 that there will be a character wipe and you will have to start at lvl 1 and I'm sure as always it will take awhile to become lvl 20 so I doubt that having no epics on release will be much of a problem
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LFFF - 1/7/2006 12:59 PMI also imagine that if Layo converts to NWN2 that there will be a character wipe and you will have to start at lvl 1 and I'm sure as always it will take awhile to become lvl 20 so I doubt that having no epics on release will be much of a problem
Yup...Leanthar (if the conversion happens) may even decide to have the NWN2 version take place a few thousand years after the NWN1 version. All your characters (or some of them at least) may be read about in the history books of layonara, but I'm thinking you'd definately see a character wipe. Remember, I believe before the expansions the max level was 20. There will be NWN2 expansions that will allow epic levels I'm sure. But then that'll be a few years from now and by that time, games like dragon age will be out so *shrugs*.
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Yup...Leanthar (if the conversion happens) may even decide to have the NWN2 version take place a few thousand years after the NWN1 version. All your characters (or some of them at least) may be read about in the history books of layonara
*Bil starts looking feverishly for that scroll of immortality he last saw under the bed*