The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: SquareKnot on August 25, 2006, 11:31:13 AM
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I didn't see any mention of this in the Handbook or anywhere else, and I've never heard anyone mention it in-game. So, is there an official currency of Layonara? One coin accepted on all continents by all peoples? NWN pretty much forces that to be the case -- the "gold piece." I don't want to start a discussion on multiple coin types in NWN.
Soooo, assuming there is one coin, what is its name? It just seems like it would add a little to the world if people said, "It's five Layos for that, and not one less!" instead of "that's 5 gp."
And if it were the Layo, the symbol could be £ ...
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Good question squareknot , ive been here a while and cant recal myself anywhere the name of the currency being metioned
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hrmmmmm houw about just coins, not haveing a name? or maybe they can be named after the city were they were minted :P like, this will cost 5 hamps, or 5 llasts hehe
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I've heard it referred to as "Queen's coin" and a few other things. Not certian if there's an offical anything, would be very interesting to find out and the story behind it.
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How about that for the symbol lol
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Since they're sort of part of an empire despite Mistone's seeming sovereignty and the fall of Pranzis, I imagine there would be a common currency used throughout it. It would feel pretty silly to me to make official notes about the "single coin" of a continent, though. I would rather there were a few breakdowns and we simply decided on the one that NWN's "gold piece" would represent.
Of course I would love if Voltrex snubbed the common coin, but hey... ;)
As a sidenote in response to a comment in the original post, coinage has been done, including making certain kinds region-specific... When you loot gold, they translate it into different levels of change as items in your inventory... it's interesting. :)
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Name? Zug just thinks theys be nice shiney thingses. Why need name?
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we are going to have credit cards soon lol
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Marks are a common one I've heard, or just "coin." Then there's jinks, shinies, etc.
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Stephen_Zuckerman - 8/25/2006 10:00 PM Marks are a common one I've heard, or just "coin." Then there's jinks, shinies, etc.
Yes I heared those to and one more: "gold piece". wich is what gp stands for. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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*shrugs* All slang terms thought , there all not names of the currancy
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Leks, Quatloos, Izziks, Orion chips, credits, gold pressed latinum by the slip, strip and bar, Solari, Space Bucks, Galleons, Sickles, knuts, Tik, agol, smerduk and rilk, Filari, Gil, NuYen, Meseta, Rupees, Tiberium, Zorkmids, Simoleons, Grotzits, Ankh-Morpork... *goes insane listing all the fictitional currency*
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Sometimes a gold piece is just a gold piece.
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a gold piece by any other name is still a gold piece
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Plus, presumably the thousand-year-old tombs that are plundered on a weekly basis contain gold pieces of some denomination other than the current mintings. Ergo, if it's made of gold and coin-shaped, merchants take it. More to the point, such coins probably stay in circulation, so I doubt there's any kind of unified coinage system. (Though, if anything is being used, "crowns" seem fairly nondenominational - most coins are issued by royalty, after all.)
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I like Crowns. Sounds like a good name for royally minted currency. Of course, if a dwarf decided to mine some gold and smelt it into little disks the size of a goldpiece, few shopkeeps would turn that down either. back when silver and gold coins were popular, "shaving" became the dubious practice of taking large amounts of coinage and shaving a tiny amount off each, resmelting them into new full coins. Hence thhe marketplace usually had plenty of scales on hand, in order to make transactions based on the amount of gold rather than the amount of coins.
Ed the campaign guru would know best what current mintings are popularized in Layonara though.
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Shaving was also the reason coins were given the lined edge that most coin currency has today, to show whether or not it has been shaved. It is rather useless a practice now, but kept out of tradition I guess because it is so familiar.
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Good question. It's now in the works :)
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so maybe we should have it *drum roll* the..................Coin!
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lonnarin - 8/25/2006 1:36 PM
Leks, Quatloos, Izziks, Orion chips, credits, gold pressed latinum by the slip, strip and bar, Solari, Space Bucks, Galleons, Sickles, knuts, Tik, agol, smerduk and rilk, Filari, Gil, NuYen, Meseta, Rupees, Tiberium, Zorkmids, Simoleons, Grotzits, Ankh-Morpork... *goes insane listing all the fictitional currency*
Quatloos :) too funny really. You showed your age on that one ;)
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I submit the name Talon, as Layonara is based on a world where once dragons where every where the story could be the survivors used the dragon talon as a measure of wieght to wiegh it's equvilent in gold....and as the guilds which surley formed from the early merchants needing a set amount of wieght to ensure level and fair trade. Now granted the idea that all dragon talons would wiegh the same is foolish but if one was chosen and all others based upon it ( by shaving or adding wieght to it) then this could be the basis of our coins and provide them with a name.
Now where is this Talon and has any one seen it for a while...is it on display somewhere. What is the details of this story, is it from a specific dragon......that some mage might need for some magic's.....the possiblities are endless
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OOO!! I know, I know!! For 1gp, the name should be GOLDY! And for 5gp, the name should be GOLDY-S! ;)
You know I kid SquareKnot! That really IS a good question. It would confuse some (like me) at first, but it would really add to the spirit and RP of Layo. :) Really good idea man.
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Ha Ha. Actually, Ifion has had so few gold pieces, he's given each its own individual name. Yesterday, he spent George and Fred buying arrows...
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Maybe Scales, by the same token Praylor mentioned.
I've been using different denominational coins, though, in RP, using metals I've seen used in other campaigns.
10 Gold = 1 Platinum
10 Plat = 1 Mithril??? (No electrum, heh.)
Makes the idea of carrying around all that money easier. Then, of course, there are bank slips for larger amounts.
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I'm totally fine with having just 'coins' as it is, it's much more practical...
It's a good idea, regardless. :)
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The Rofireinite votes for Talons. Good ideas all round though. :)
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Stephen_Zuckerman - 8/26/2006 11:37 PM
10 Plat = 1 Mithril??? (No electrum, heh.)
Electrum is a real alloy. In ancient times, gold and silver were found naturally mixed. The Greeks called it elektron (but in Greek letters), and the Romans turned that into electrum.
Prior to D&D 3.0, there were electrum coins. As you might imagine of a coin made of gold and silver, they were worth 5 silver pieces, or half a gold piece.
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As you might imagine of a coin made of gold and silver, they were worth 5 silver pieces, or half a gold piece.
Which was just unecessarily complicated. In NWN, they went with the gold-only, no-weight currency because a) it prevented money from becoming ridiculously o'erburdening, b) it made prices straightforward. The whole point of platinum, iridium, gems, etc. was to prevent the weight of coinage crushing those who carry it in classical PnP, where individual coins have weight.
I would argue that the explanation behind "talons" makes little sense, as a dragon talon would weigh unrealistically much (especially given that our coins weigh nothing), since dragon talons have the same damage as shortswords - and similarly, a scale from a mature dragon would be huge, though less weighty. If the gold needs a name at all, I'll continue to push "crowns" - it's not a formal name, and doubtless doesn't apply to some of the ancient coins... but it's a lovely generic name for any coins minted by royalty.
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darkstorme - 8/27/2006 11:50 AM
Which was just unecessarily complicated.
I agree and disagree. It's similar to U.S. currency. Ten pennies make a dime, and ten dimes make a dollar. Are quarters and nickels unnecessarily complicated? *shrug* Multiple denominations add complexity, but they also add character.
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And also, Gulnyr, are a bit harder to script.
Scales, crowns, either sounds good to me.
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how about people calling the GP's "moneys"
EG: "i will give you four thousand moneys for said magic ring, and that is the most moneys i will offer!"
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id think they should just be called "Coin" *shrugs* crowns and all that seams needlessly complcated
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LoganGrimnar - 8/29/2006 6:15 PM id think they should just be called "Coin" *shrugs* crowns and all that seams needlessly complcated
I'll go with that, "coins" sounds good enought to me.
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EdTheKet - 8/26/2006 10:05 AM Good question. It's now in the works :)
It's nearing completion.
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Thank you. That's all I wanted, and much faster than I expected. I appreciate all that the writing team does to add depth to Layonara.
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All of my characters have referred to them as something else for so long, that I will just have to keep up with that.
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you mentioned Tiberium.. I like you
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Thank you Merlin34baseball for this:
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29931&posts=1#M190714
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Now here's a question, Ed. Are Trues, Innpieces (to shorten the name to something usable), Queens (I think Crowns would be more fitting on this one), and Towers all worth the same?
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Yes.
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Nicely done. Very well written with just the right historical flair and practicality.
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I wish NWN had a cooler currency system supporting multiple denominations... there are a few custom things out there but they're not very seamless (due to limitations in the engine.
I haven't read anything recently about nwn2 currency prospects, but I think I read sometime some time ago that mentioned that there wouldn't be any substantial changes from the nwn1 system.
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I like the multiple denomination systems. Especially the "more than one denomination within multiple standards of regional currency." Alas.
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Acacea - 9/10/2006 4:33 PM
I like the multiple denomination systems. Especially the "more than one denomination within multiple standards of regional currency." Alas.
Yeah, then we could have money changers...
Alas.
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Yeah, money changers would be cool. Alas, alas...
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EdTheKet - 9/11/2006 3:06 PM
Yeah, money changers would be cool. Alas, alas...
Very true, very true. I've played that LARGE sums of gold are signed off on papers from the banks... But are there any standards for nongold currency?
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Captain Garent of Hlint: "Right, I'll need to know what happened here. And I want the truth."
Random Hlint guy: "But..." *Stares at the single gold piece in his palm.* "It's my only truth!! I need it to live, and buy food!"
Captain Garent of Hlint: "Er... I beleive you misunderstand me, sir. I mean, TELL me th-"
Random Hlint guy: *Throws himself to the floor in tears.* "WHY?!?!!? WHY, CRUEL FATE!!! CRUEL GODS!!! WHY DO YOU TAKE MY ONLY TRUTH FROM ME!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"
Captain Garent of Hlint: *Slowly backs away, with a strange expression on his face.*
Random Hlint guy: *Continues sobbing on the floor, clutching his single gold coin with a fearful, trembling hand in despair...*
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d20mushroom - 9/11/2006 9:41 PM Captain Garent of Hlint: "Right, I'll need to know what happened here. And I want the truth." Random Hlint guy: "But..." *Stares at the single gold piece in his palm.* "It's my only truth!! I need it to live, and buy food!" Captain Garent of Hlint: "Er... I beleive you misunderstand me, sir. I mean, TELL me th-" Random Hlint guy: *Throws himself to the floor in tears.* "WHY?!?!!? WHY, CRUEL FATE!!! CRUEL GODS!!! WHY DO YOU TAKE MY ONLY TRUTH FROM ME!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" Captain Garent of Hlint: *Slowly backs away, with a strange expression on his face.* Random Hlint guy: *Continues sobbing on the floor, clutching his single gold coin with a fearful, trembling hand in despair...*
LOL
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http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/maltergalleries/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=107
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...Why do the card game players call the coin 'jink'?
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Because they are largely planar, and know cards from Sigil that would make your head spin. Tom though... he could take them all AND their lunchmoney!
Miss that kid.
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Lunchmoney....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_Money_(game)
Today's off topic link brough to you by the letter I.
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Lunchmoney rocks! it just frickin rocks!