The World of Layonara

The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: d20mushroom on September 03, 2006, 04:05:00 PM

Title: Some information on NWN2
Post by: d20mushroom on September 03, 2006, 04:05:00 PM
http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=492675&forum=95&highlight=

The races (and subraces) that NWN2 will include.

http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=493004&forum=95

The base classes NWN2 will include.

http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=493715&forum=95

The prestige classes NWN2 will include.


I'm not sure how reliable this information is... perhaps all of you have seen these three lists already? If not, it should help. I hope. *Grins.*


Shroom.
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: crazedgoblin on September 04, 2006, 11:54:57 AM
nice, straight to the favorites list :D
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Ar7 on September 04, 2006, 12:22:17 PM
Very nice information, thank you. I would have never found it on my own as I don't really keep myself updated with all the news.

I have to say that the Arcane Trickster is the best thing I saw from that list. What can be better than a sneaky, plotting, cunning, two-faced wizard! I think I know what to strive for in V3 *looks hopeful*

Good info!
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Chongo on September 04, 2006, 12:29:35 PM
...someone's going to be rather busy.... *looks to the balancers and the poor poor scripters*
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Blackguy on September 04, 2006, 12:38:56 PM
The frenzied berserker is the class Ive always wanted. Seems like I gonna make a new dwarf in nwn2 layo.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Stephen_Zuckerman on September 04, 2006, 01:28:25 PM
Wow.


Just wow.
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Wraithdur on September 04, 2006, 02:14:50 PM
*jaw drops in pure astonishment*..........................................................................................................................................................*starts to drool*.....................
.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
...................................if only Roggin was a war priest.....................................SWEET!
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: ZeroVega on September 04, 2006, 02:33:07 PM
Just want to drop in quickly and reccomend that people not plan characters to multiclass into PrCs until we get the go-ahead from the GM team. As it was when SoU and HotU first came out, people started planning and playing characters who were built to multiclass into a PrC and ended up being stopped dead when they learned that there were balancing issues to work out or that the GM team simply wouldn't allow the PrC. (In other words, pick a nice base class and just develop would be my strategy.)

ZV-
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: d20mushroom on September 04, 2006, 03:26:58 PM
Good point, ZV. However, on the single player campain, I think I'm going to walk the path of the duelist. *Grins.*
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Lilswanwillow on September 04, 2006, 03:32:02 PM
we can dream, right?  eldritch knight, oh yes...
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: d20mushroom on September 04, 2006, 03:35:12 PM
Quote
Blackguy - 9/4/2006  8:38 AM

The frenzied berserker is the class Ive always wanted. Seems like I gonna make a new dwarf in nwn2 layo.





It does look absolutely incredible. Great Cleave is deadly enough... but Supreme Cleave? Wow.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Parreyon on September 05, 2006, 12:19:41 PM
*dreams*

... Shield Dwarf: Priest/War Priest of Vorax :)
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: crazedgoblin on September 05, 2006, 01:33:52 PM
Bard for the win!!!!
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Falonthas on September 05, 2006, 01:49:35 PM
no wild elves
nope dont like it at all
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: crazedgoblin on September 05, 2006, 01:52:18 PM
im almost definate ive seen wild elves for NWN2 somewhere........
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Lucius on September 05, 2006, 02:06:49 PM
Oh no, the Word of Changing warlock invocation turns you into a stinky gelugon! Bah! It should turn enemies into squirrels, penguins, and other demoralizing small weak animals :P One less invocation for my future warlock.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Marswipp on September 05, 2006, 03:09:44 PM
Cleric (or Paladin), Divine Champion, War Priest... Sounds like it becomes insanely powerful starting at around level thirty or forty...
(I will get the game only if it lives up to or exceedes the hype (already given and possibly to come...)
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Gulnyr on September 05, 2006, 04:28:26 PM
Quote
Marswipp - 9/5/2006  6:09 PM

Sounds like it becomes insanely powerful starting at around level thirty or forty...

This is the epic's epic range.  It is insanely powerful.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: SquareKnot on September 05, 2006, 06:10:22 PM
Quote
Marswipp - 9/5/2006 6:09 PM

Sounds like it becomes insanely powerful starting at around level thirty or forty...

This is the epic's epic range. It is insanely powerful.


Not to mention that NWN2 only goes to level 20 at the moment. Epic levels may come in an expansion, or they may not.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Talan Va'lash on September 06, 2006, 02:59:46 AM
*Abstains from all gawking and jaw dropping utill I have it, in a package, installed on my computer, and runs. Then I will feel free to jaw drop or gawk as appropriate.*
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: d20mushroom on September 06, 2006, 12:16:32 PM
Grr... I can't wait. While some classes are very similar, others (the bard) have a ton of new/changed things. It looks very interesting indeed.
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Honora on September 06, 2006, 12:32:45 PM
"Bah! It should turn enemies into squirrels, penguins, and other demoralizing small weak animals"

I know a certain Duke of H-E-Double-hockey-sticks that would dispute penguins being "small and weak" :) !

And OOO did you see what monks get for damage now?  OoooOOOO!!  And Flurry of Blows loses the to hit penalty over time?  OOOOOOOOOO

Yep.  Gonna be a monk again.
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Gulnyr on September 06, 2006, 12:59:59 PM
Quote
Honora - 9/6/2006  3:32 PM

And Flurry of Blows loses the to hit penalty over time?


Quote
When using a flurry of blows, a monk may attack only with unarmed strikes or with special monk weapons (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham).

It's nice to see they made it work with more than just the kama, too.
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: crazedgoblin on September 06, 2006, 01:26:31 PM
Quote
d20mushroom - 9/6/2006 8:16 PM Grr... I can't wait. While some classes are very similar, others (the bard) have a ton of new/changed things. It looks very interesting indeed.
 
  Bards rule! hehe
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Wraithdur on September 06, 2006, 02:27:40 PM
so.................many..........choices..........*drools for waaay too long*.............grunt
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: d20mushroom on September 09, 2006, 04:13:59 AM
http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=493878&forum=95

Characters will be able to pick backgrounds as well. (I'm not sure if this is all of them.)

EDIT: Some more information.

http://www.nwn2wiki.org/Background
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: crazedgoblin on September 09, 2006, 04:50:20 AM
*bows down to d20mushroom* all hail, all hail
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Davaeorn on September 09, 2006, 08:34:22 AM
After playing on servers with the PrC, most of these classess I've actually seen before. The one thats looking the most unique to me and I will most certainly be playing on Layonara vs 2.0 (I'm assuming there will be one... Right?) Is of course, the bard. The Warlock is also looking to be rather nifty as well though.
  -Valenor
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Marswipp on September 09, 2006, 10:25:27 AM
The Warlock and Eldrich Knight class combination, I believe, compliment each other in a way that might be too good to be around long.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Pen N Popper on September 11, 2006, 12:54:26 PM
Rumor has it the toolset will be available for download Sep 18th to those that pre-ordered the game.  No idea as to the validity but I love rumors.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Ar7 on September 11, 2006, 01:01:54 PM
Quote
Davaeorn - 9/9/2006  8:34 AM



I will most certainly be playing on Layonara vs 2.0 (I'm assuming there will be one... Right?)


You are playing Layonara V2 at this moment. As for the switch to NWN2 and the potential Layonara V3, the official statement is that it has not yet been decided upon. Layonara may switch to NWN2 but then again, maybe it won't. It is for Leanthar to decide and he is yet to give a firm "Yes" or "No"

The most wise thing to do is to enjoy Layonara as it. Not graphics or prestige classes (although they do look nice) can replace what has been created here.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Stug3 on September 11, 2006, 02:14:29 PM
Quote
Davaeorn - 9/9/2006 8:34 AM   The most wise thing to do is to enjoy Layonara as it. Not graphics or prestige classes (although they do look nice) can replace what has been created here.
 
  HERE, HERE!
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: SquareKnot on September 11, 2006, 02:43:26 PM
Quote
Pen N Popper - 9/11/2006  1:54 PM  Rumor has it the toolset will be available for download Sep 18th to those that pre-ordered the game.  No idea as to the validity but I love rumors.
 It's true. See this link
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Davaeorn on September 11, 2006, 07:36:26 PM
Quote
Ar7 - 9/10/2006  4:01 PM  
Quote
Davaeorn - 9/9/2006  8:34 AM    I will most certainly be playing on Layonara vs 2.0 (I'm assuming there will be one... Right?)
You are playing Layonara V2 at this moment. As for the switch to NWN2 and the potential Layonara V3, the official statement is that it has not yet been decided upon. Layonara may switch to NWN2 but then again, maybe it won't. It is for Leanthar to decide and he is yet to give a firm "Yes" or "No" The most wise thing to do is to enjoy Layonara as it. Not graphics or prestige classes (although they do look nice) can replace what has been created here.
Thats cool. I'm currious, what was Layonara V1? I did read somewhere that Leanther (I'm assuming it was him at least, seeing as he is the current owner) made it a long while back. Was Layo vs 1.0 PnP?
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Ar7 on September 12, 2006, 04:42:08 AM
During the days of Layonara V1 only the continent of Mistone was created online. It was a lot smaller compared to what we currently have, though there were exceptions. For example the Broken Forest was huge, spanning many areas and death was very likely. Though what illustrates V1 the best is the fact that a level 13-14 was considered very high level, something like Ozy and Rev these days.

Overall, it was different  :)
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Faldred on September 12, 2006, 04:45:40 AM
Quote
Marswipp - 9/9/2006  1:25 PM

The Warlock and Eldrich Knight class combination, I believe, compliment each other in a way that might be too good to be around long.


I believe with the EK pre-reqs, you'd still need a second arcane caster class, because Warlocks don't meet the "ability to cast Nth level arcane spells" requirement, unless Obsidian modifies that part of the 3.5 ruleset.

If they do make it so that Warlocks can qualify for the arcane PrCs, then Eldritch Knight or Pale Master would be excellent choices, and Arcane Trickster (with a Warlock/Rogue combo) would be an interesting one.
Title: RE: Some information on NWN2
Post by: Lucius on September 12, 2006, 10:19:11 AM
Warlocks do not cast arcane spells, so if the pre-requisite is "Ability to cast Xth level spells", they can't get the PrC. If it's just "Caster level Yth", they may take it. At least on PnP.

Another thing, Warlocks will not want to multiclass. You lose invocations, which are already VERY few (12 at lvl 20). Only possibility I can think of is Rogue or similar, for the stealthy skills and sneak attacks. I prefer just full warlock though.

As for monks and flurrying, it loses it's penalties, but there's no longer that different AB for unarmed attacks. Now, intead of a 3 point gap between hits, it's a 5 point gap, like all other classes. Example: A level 20 monk will flurry for +15/+15/+15/+10/+5.
Title: Re: Some information on NWN2
Post by: steverimmer on October 08, 2006, 02:15:23 AM
Just found another review:

http://www.gamersinfo.net/index.php?art/id:1313

Its funny though, although it says that mods are not compatible with NWN (something we all knew), you can import scripts and conversations from the original.  I didn't realise that.
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2026, SimplePortal