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The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: stragen on September 18, 2006, 12:18:04 AM
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Calling All Aussie's, Kiwi's, And Friends in the GMT +9:00 timezone.
I am putting together a Friday Night game group. The purpose of which is to have some planned adventure outings. As Aussie players are (appear to be) few and farbetween it is difficult to get groups together, partiularly groups of high level chracters. I know a few of us can make Friday night from AEST 2000hrs till 2400hrs, so this seems like a good day and time. There are a few options for the group, High Level (15+), Mid Levels (10-14), Low Levels(9-), All New Characters (lvl 1).
If interested sign below with,
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Forum Name:
Bioware Name:
Preferred Character Name:
Classes and Levels of Preferred Character:
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I'll post first to get the list started. Depending on the popular responses I will organise a calendar event with the appropriate roleplay hooks.
Stragen
PS: If there are any Aussie epics I would be interested in your post!
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Forum Name: Stragen
Bioware Name: stragen1
Preferred Character Name: Jin Lun Lee
Classes and Levels of Preferred Character: Cleric-10 / Monk-5
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Okay... I'm not an Aussie, but I'm online at Aussie times... :)
Forum Name: Weeblie
Bioware Name: WeeblieTHG
Preferred Character Name: Alleina
Classes and Levels of Preferred Character: Cleric (15)
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You've also got Hoodlum, Dezza and I on Aussie time.
At the moment we have no prefered characters so if you see us log in, send us a tell.
cheers,
Polak76
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What time is this PST? 'cause I bet I'm on.
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My times are somewhat Aussie, GMT+12, I'd probably be online GMT 7.30am-11.30pm, not too sure what that'd be AEST but I think a few of those hours slot into the time you posted above. I'm tied up with RL things at the moment, but I should be able to make it on a friday evening. Forum Name: Schmack Bioware Name: om39a Preferred Character Name: Rend Biggo Classes and Levels of Preferred Character: Ranger-2, Cleric-4
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Chongo - 9/18/2006 4:14 AM
What time is this PST? 'cause I bet I'm on.
Ok... it's confirmed... after 2 minutes of looking at the timers and figuring out the GMT +9 at 2000 AEST, and a few drinks after finding my wife is pregnant for round 3... I can not figure out what time that is.
I'm pretty sure I've just proven a sub-80 IQ. And I'm breeding... ah I'm part of the problem I always complain about!
The viscious irony of self realization...
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Forum Name: Pen N Popper Bioware Name: Pen N Popper Preferred Character Name: Bumblebee Classes and Levels of Preferred Character: Rogue/Shadowdancer 10
That would be 6am EDT and I'm not usually free until 7:30am, but I'd enjoy some RP adventuring.
Note that my PC is a non-contributor in battles and at his current level (12th factoring in ECL) he gets lower XP on East than Central. I say this because I don't feel it is OOC for him to travel with higher levels. It is completely IC for him to want to see more of the world as well as travel with the powerful of the lands.
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Forum Name: Dezza
Bioware name: Derekbr
Preferred Char: Tarradon Duvall/ Cherry Blossum
Classes & Levels: Tarra Paladin(13), Cherry Monk(8)
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Hahahahaha....Chongo, you're all over the shop.
I guess you're just caught up in the euphoria of number three on the way.
By the way PST is what happens after you had those drinks.
Best of luck.
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Forum Name: Pseudonym
Bioware name: Funnypseudonym
Preferred Char: Arkolio
Classes & Levels: Rogue 10 (ooooh, so close to 11)
Maybe levels 10-15? Doesn't seem too much of a level spread and then you could have Jin (stragen), Tarradon (Dezza), Mallok (Polak76), Arkolio (Me), Bumblebee (Pen n Popper) who at least have all travelled together in game as a core?
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Not an Aussie either but often around at those times...
Forum Name: DMOE Bioware name: Morgana Tintagel Prefered Char: Muireann Class & Levels: Cleric 8th
Obviously due to her being 8th lvl (coming up on 9th finally!!) kinda stuck with the below 9th option :)
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*looks up at DMOE's post and revises level spread to 9-15, winks*
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Pseudonym - 9/19/2006 7:31 AM *looks up at DMOE's post and revises level spread to 9-15, winks*
Oh yeah....Ark just wants his own personal cleric along :p
But 9-15th sounds good to me too *winks back*
Joking aside I'll happily cope if that is considered too great a level spread.
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Chongo - 9/18/2006 5:14 AM
What time is this PST? 'cause I bet I'm on.
Chongo that would be 0300hrs PST (3:00am) right now and after Daylight Savings rolls back it will be 0200hrs (2:00am)
I hope that helps :)
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Ack! That's 4 am here. You crazy australians.
And it's round three unfortunately, not number 3... sorry to mislead. Only 28, 3 kids would be pretty motivated, and you sure wouldn't see me online so much I'm guessing. Good news is that the bloodwork found an easily treated clotting disorder that will probably help fix the problems from before.
Back to the point though... how soon is daylight savings?
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Just had a thought - as this is an Aussie gaming group should players be forced to recite the words to the second verse of our national anthem to prove their nationality? *scratches head and tries to remember* Something about girt and toil?
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It looks like mid-levels are most popular. We will have about 3 level 15 characters in the Group, a level 13 and two level 10 characters.
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Jin Lun Lee(Stragen) - 15
Alleina (Weeblie) - 15
Pendar (scotcar) - 15 {might not make it the first two weeks}
Tarradon Duvall (Dezza) - 13.
Bumbleebee (Pen&Pooper) 10 [12 with ECL].
Arkolio (Pseudonym) - 10
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All of who have interacted with Jin before, and should work well together (apart from Ark who is a true rogue and Ne'er-do-well). I have setup an event this Friday as 8pm AEST.
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2366&year=2006&month=9
Please sign up when you can.
As an alternative we can have a lower level group with,[yellow]
Jake Saltpetre (Stragen) - 8
Cherry Blossum (Dezza) - 8
Muireann (DMOE) - 8
Mallok (Polak76) - 8
Eric Ravenshair (scotcar) - 8[/yellow]
Arkolio and Bumbleebee and Rend Biggo would also be welcome additions to this group.
This looks like a nice destructive group, with two followers of the Lady Doom. This could be a Wednesday group. Though I have found it is usually quick to put together low level groups in game.
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Just a quick FYI...
As Geldar's player has got alot busier recently and Wednesday can be one of the days he get's online, don't count on a cleric every week because if he can make it online Ireth will be spending time with her betrothed and Muir will be caught up with Temple duties.
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Ouch!
You just hit my only class at that day! Hehe...
Ah, well... We'll see what happens... :)
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I just found this thread! I'll be on to play at that time. Can you count me in Stragen?
Forum Name:Tanman
Bioware Name: Wei-Yen Tan
Preferred Character Name:Eghaas Treebringer
Classes and Levels of Preferred Character: Sorceror 9
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Ihave to say that this was the one of the best outings that I have been on. Plenty of RP had me laughing quietly in most cases. I would love to travel with this group again.
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It was a nice trip, though I would have prefered a little bit more talking during the trip too. :)
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Oh there certainly was in the desert. :)
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Tanman - 9/23/2006 12:31 PM
Oh there certainly was in the desert. :)
Your not referring to the history lesson given by a certain Paladin, while outside the door of a Dragons Lair are you? Seems the Dragon heard the lesson and sent his Gaint minions to cut down on the noise. They did a good job or returning the place to dead quiet.
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*Arkolio mutters something about preachy, wordy paladins*
I, for one, had great fun and would recommend anyone who can make that time slot to check it out next week!
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Aye it was lots of fun...Even the Misty behaved :p
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Was great folks...first decent XP I made for a long time...and lots of RP too Much Much FUN!
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You buggers!! I almost made it--->.
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Dear Players,
Thankyou all for joining in.
You all added to the game. In particular those whose characters added conflict to the situation. For those whos characters left the group due to character conflict you added realism and tension to game. I thank you for joining in. I will run another session on Wednesday for those characters with Jake Saltpetre so you don't miss out. It was quite funny, we suffered the Curse of Mist, with a lot of deaths.
In the end we came together hand had a pretty slick outfit, even if there was only four left by then.
Cheers,
Stragen
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Arrgh! Get ye cutlas ready, we be boarding that tar ship!
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2391&year=2006&month=10
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stragen - 9/29/2006 2:27 PM Arrgh! Get ye cutlas ready, we be boarding that tar ship! http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2391&year=2006&month=10
There is a time to meet but no place to meet on this entry
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Arrgh! Ye be right, set sail fer Point Harbour.
{For those who haven't been take a boat for Leilon to Port Hampshire, then From Port Hampshire to Point Harbour}
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Ladies and Gents,
I will be an hour late this week as I'm heading out to dinner first. Your welcome to start without me.
Cheers,
Sebastien
stragen - 9/20/2006 1:30 PM
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2366&year=2006&month=9
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Triskadekaphobia: Fear of the number 13.
Friday 13th Aussie Adventure group: Theme Horror
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2366&year=2006&month=10
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Was nice and scary.
Had a ton of fun, stayed up too late. Will have to try that again and see if we can get to the bottom of it.
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stragen - 10/14/2006 9:45 AM
Had a ton of fun, stayed up too late.
Which reminds me, Is there an accepted 'what time you come to bed discount' when you sneak into bed after a run like that and your wife asks you what time is it?
I got to bed at 3am and answered her drowsy question with "a bit after midnight, sshhhhhh"
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Just an FYI... Three of the recent adventurers pushed on further and joined the ranks of the "long dead adventurers." Their initiation was a screaming success and they were presented with their new gear: A blade passed through the heart, pinning them to the floor.
By some miracle, Pig bypassed the soul mother with a clean roll of 100 and spent the day recovering in the Freelancer tavern with his classmates.
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Well...Tarradon told you to return to the surface! :)
Was awesome fun folks but now we have to go back and get to the bottom of it...so to speak!
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Hehe... It was kind of expected, you know. ;)
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That was an excellent night out. Pseudonym you say you didn't get to bed till 3:00am. I didn't get to bed till 5am! I have been putting together some video from Storans and the Nameless dungeon and with Alleina saying Boo! to all the dead zombies and her sun spell (I don't know what you call it) to kill the vampires it was amusing as well as looking truly epic and magnificent. Everyone else made the story interesting too.
Alleina it would be nice for you to come again next time. As a cleric, seeing those blessings make it worth the while to watch and most of all the lower levels of the Nameless Dungeon. I read in the post somewhere that they couldn't find any traps. Well, I think they are wrong. There are plenty of traps. I am not saying where or which dungeon.
An excellent night, and hope to do the finishing touches next week when we go down to the bottom!
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She was using the [lore=Sunbeam] spell (she has the Sun domain so getting that spell at level 7 instead of level 8). It looks nice and probably saved our lives one or two times. Though... There is a minor friendly-fire effect from that spell (blindness and some minor damage)... Hehe! :)
Anyway... Not really sure if I can come the next time. Or, if I can, I would most probably be 2.5 hours late. My physics class (lasting 1.5 hours) starts one hour after the Aussie event starts. The last time was an exception as we were free from school then. ;)
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I am sure we can wait! *smiles*
You are right. it looks good on screen. Fits in well. Is that a layo spell or a NWN spell?
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It's a normal NWN spell... Just, a one rarely (if ever) used due to the fact that it's normally a level 8 spell (same level as Mass Heal!).
In fact, I had hardly ever used it either. Just thought... "Hm... Vampires... Might as well try something funny!" and then realised that it was in fact a very nice spell. ;)
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Jin: "We will return again, undaunted. We will get to the bottom of this Evil."
This week we start in Haven, then head for the nameless dungeon. I want to get a quick start as it takes a long time to get to the bottom. In the end we had to turn back because people were falling asleep as the keyboard. Made start time half an hour later as a compromise. The most important party members this week will be the clerics. Please post if you can bring a cleric this week.
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2366&year=2006&month=10
Allei, join us when you can.
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You guys are really rubbing salt into my wounds. So to fix this problem I've finally got a 'Good' character in mind that I'm currently writing a bio for. That way I wont have any discrepancies with the group.
My nights are usually monday's and thursdays but this week I may have Saturday spare.
Any chance some of you may be around saturday night?
Cheers,
Polak76
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Just a note that I am oversea's on work. I won't be able to attend this trips for the next four weeks. However I am sure you will manage fine without me.
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/calendar/event-view.asp?eventid=2366&year=2006&month=11
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*Casts Raise Dead on an Old Thread*
Well our characters are a little older and wiser. Some are permed, some retired. I am looking for a high level group, just for Friday Nights. Starting around 8:30pm AEST running for a few hours.
Jin Lun Lee has only been to the East Server three times, and there are many places on Central, and even West he hasn't been to. So some adventures into his homeland of Belinara are called for.
That was then:
Jin Lun Lee(Stragen) - 15
Alleina (Weeblie) - 15
Pendar (scotcar) - 15 {might not make it the first two weeks}
Tarradon Duvall (Dezza) - 13.
Bumbleebee (Pen&Pooper) 10 [12 with ECL].
Arkolio (Pseudonym) - 10
This is now:
Jin Lun Lee (Stragen) - 19
Pendar (scotcar) - 18ish
Anyone else, post below if you want to join.
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Wow! Was that really 8 months ago??
I'd be keen for an unusual central server run, but as Ark is still only level 14 (too much time getting himself in trouble with the ladies and not enough time carving his way through Dregar earning xp!), I am afraid East is out for me.
That is, of course, that in the 10 years of in-game time that has passed, certain characters have forgotten they didn't trust him as far as they could throw him and we are now all willing to travel together! :)
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And of course Ireth - 22
I would point out that in my limited experience of East that we'd need clerical/arcane support as much as fighter support
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you might tempt Brualot the Investigator (wizard 19) out from his desk, (can make some Fridays)
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Aye, ill try and make some with Sabrissia :).
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Tricky... summer schedule and everything!
Besides... Allei's currently not so very useful if you plan to go to East. :p
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East is out. Only Central walkabouts *winks*
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Central it is then. 2030AEST. Not this Friday, but next Friday, as Tanman has a CDQ to do this Friday. For some reason two events appeared on the calendar; maybe as it crosses the midnight-date boundary. Ignore the Sat one.
http://forums.layonara.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=762&day=2007-7-6&c=2
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Not sure I can make it, on holidays and not due to come back til Saturday. You should have seen the look my wife just gave me when I just hinted at maybe coming back the night before in order to carve up central. *shivers*
Have fun!
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I'm in with Sasha!
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Not sure I can make it, on holidays and not due to come back til Saturday. You should have seen the look my wife just gave me when I just hinted at maybe coming back the night before in order to carve up central. *shivers*
Have fun!
The carve up your husband look?
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A reminder that his event is tonight.
Start is a the Stormcrest at AEST 8:30pm.
http://forums.layonara.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=762&day=2007-7-6&c=2
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A non event this week, due to lack of people. I will try for another event in a different timeslot in the near future.
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*casts resurrection (http://forums.layonara.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-10-26&e=3202&c=2) on this thread/idea*
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A brief recap of events.
First there were eleven.
RL claimed the first victim, Godim. Ten.
A Mithril Golem claimed the second, Seth. Nine.
RL claimed another, Muireann. Eight.
The Golem victim made his way back, Hi Seth! Nine.
Party in-fighting saw another off. Alandric. Eight again.
Golem bait (Seth) meets Black Snake. Seven.
Getting late now, one off to bed, Hilda. Six.
Let's head back - too dangerous.
Wow, those dark elves respawn fast, Lex'or. Five.
RL, gotta bail, Brualot. Four.
*remnants of party stumble out, many accusing glares at Arkolio*
Considering the SS losses and lost xp for pre-grave-recovery deaths and broken ingame friendships, Arkolio considers that he now has to sell his solitary diamond found for 100,000+ true to make up for it.
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Can I just say that truthfully, with no embellishments, this was perhaps the best example of bad luck on a mission I have EVER come across in my time on layo. The fact that the trip cost me 10k in true for prep stuff such as potions and the like and when we finally did stumble out and collected our 150 true...sadly the literally, couple of diamonds we got didn't quite seem worth it.
It's always humorous poking fun at other peoples woes on a quest but I think every one there by the time they emerged had had enough of woes for a time and we were just happy to finally stumble back into the safety of Dalanthar...
hehe nice one Pseudo...so whens the next one dare I ask.....?
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Just like old times.
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I'd also be happy to contribute to this effort with Godim, as I am sometimes available at AEST times from 9:00pm and so forth
Forum Name: Chazzler
Bioware Name: Chazzler
Preferred Char(s): Tar Wolfheart (barb, 7), Gurmar Rockhelm (fighter, 6 I think :) ), Godim Harjumaa (wiz 22)
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Friday Night is almost upon us. Who will be logging in tonight? I'm trying to decide on my plans. I'll log in for a bit tonight, if we get a ground I'll stick around till fatigue sets in.
Chazzler, are you going to be around tonight?
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I should be around tonight after 9.00pm-ish with my lovable* rogue Arkolio.
*Do more people than just me need to find him so in order to be classified as such?
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Sasha will probably be around after 9pm as well...happy to do whatever!
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Friday Night is almost upon us. Who will be logging in tonight? I'm trying to decide on my plans. I'll log in for a bit tonight, if we get a ground I'll stick around till fatigue sets in.
Chazzler, are you going to be around tonight?
Nope, I can't be around tonight unfortunately, as I'm going to see Mayhem perform at another town.
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Belinara
For those who fell:
First Sasha, quickly followed by Jin Lun Lee with a visit from the Soul Mother. Aragli and Hilda too.
Then Argali, with a Soul Strand, and Hilda also with a Soul Strand.
Both logged.
Three left. Sasha, Ark and Jin.
Then Sasha, no SS, logged.
Jin and Ark limped home.
That was such a mis-adventure it reminded me of this thread.
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[Wed Mar 12 21:08:20] Jin Lun Lee: [Tell] If I bring Jin we can try Belinara.
[Wed Mar 12 21:09:16] Argali Trueaxe: [Tell] Sounds like famous last words, "We can try Belinara..." ;)
Perhaps I should listen to myself more... :rolleyes:
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*Rumour of a group of adventures meeting in Stort spread*
// Jacrum will be in Stort at about 8:30 PM
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// We need warriors and one cleric level 10+
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Jin looks up to the Thunder Peaks.
"It is time to scout them."
// Aussies on tonight we will return to the thunder peaks with a scouting party. Expect high danger. Use of scouts, warriors, mages and healers needed. Level 17+. Be sure to download the update HAK files.
// 8:30pm AEST, Dalanthar
http://forums.layonara.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=7422&day=2008-6-6
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If there is a desire for combat-useless individuals whose only contribution will be to belittle and ridicule their companions as well as the aforementioned "scouts, warriors, mages and healers" ... then count me in!
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I'll probably be heading up there too about 30 minutes later, so maybe we'll bump into eachother..
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We can wait 30 min no problems.
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One spell. Four killed. Four soul strands. Five in 15 mins.
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The Soul Mother likes the new update. :(
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[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:03] Jin Lun Lee: [Party] Careful. Want me to scout... I know that sound.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:08] Jin Lun Lee: [Party] Spiders.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:12] Experience Points Gained: 8833
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:12] You received 8833 XP for the role-playing!
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:20] Jin Lun Lee: [Party] Ark can scout. *nudges*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:28] Argali Trueaxe: **keeps an eye out**
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:37] Arkolio de'Averlain: [Party] Ark has a sore knee .. otherwise i'ds love to *bluff check*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:38] Arkolio de'Averlain: Bluff Check: 9 + 22 = 31
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:46] Jin Lun Lee casting Bull's Strength
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:48] Jin Lun Lee casts Bull's Strength
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:52] Jin Lun Lee casting Freedom of Movement
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:53] Barion Firesteed: [Party] *streches* That feels better ...
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:54] Jin Lun Lee casts Freedom of Movement
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:21:54] Fenrir Thornaxe: [Party] Best iffn we try ehnd keep fightin em one eht eh time
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:08] Jin Lun Lee casting Protection from Evil
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:10] Jin Lun Lee casts Protection from Evil
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:14] Jin Lun Lee casting Bless
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:16] Jin Lun Lee casts Bless
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:21] Jin Lun Lee casting Resistance
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:23] Jin Lun Lee casts Resistance
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:23] Barion Firesteed uses Helmet of Armor II
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:31] Equipped item swapped out.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:31] You have multiple items equipped or spell effects active that give a Deflection AC bonus and the effects will not stack.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:35] Equipped item swapped out.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:40] Equipped item swapped out.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:41] Jin Lun Lee uses Necklace of Shield I
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:41] You have multiple items equipped or spell effects active that give a Deflection AC bonus and the effects will not stack.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:42] Equipped item swapped out.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:49] Barion Firesteed uses Exceptional Archers Edge
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:54] Equipped item swapped out.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:22:57] Jin Lun Lee uses Exceptional Ring of Owl's Wisdom I
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:00] Jin Lun Lee attempts to resist spell : failure
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:00] Jin Lun Lee : Fortitude Save vs. Death : *failure* : (6 + 23 = 29 vs. DC: 33)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:00] Jin Lun Lee : Initiative Roll : 10 : (6 + 4 = 10)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] Minotaur Bloodseeker of the Rune Horn Clan killed Barion Firesteed
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] Minotaur Bloodseeker of the Rune Horn Clan killed Argali Trueaxe
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] Minotaur Bloodseeker of the Rune Horn Clan damages Fenrir Thornaxe: 10 (10 Sonic)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] Minotaur Bloodseeker of the Rune Horn Clan killed Jin Lun Lee
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] Minotaur Bloodseeker of the Rune Horn Clan killed Arkolio de'Averlain
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] Soul Save vs. Soul Mother : *failure* : (9 vs. DC: 22)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Fri Jun 06 22:23:03] The anguish of death takes it's terrible toll on your spirit. You feel as though a part of your soul has departed and will never be recovered. (You will be permanently dead after losing 2 more Soul Strands.)
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Good Roleplaying.
Poor tactics.
I didn't see it coming but that wasn't a spider.
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Good roleplaying .
I'll leave it at that , have fun all on the next try .
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Okay I'm terribly sorry guys. I had no idea something like that could or would happen... I guess I should've guessed trouble was ahead if it was a magic area, but that thing spotted us beyond line of sight and bang Wailed everyone. I didn't even have time to react and Foe everyone. Super sorry guys, I feel it's my fault.
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Well, I think we've just established a new benchmark here, the "Aussie Gaming Group Soul Strand Loss from a Single Spell" standard, or AGGSSLSS.
I calculate there was a 0.27% chance (just over quarter of one percent) of that happening (that's not counting the failed saving throws, either).
Wasn't quite quick enough to screen capture (http://forums.layonara.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=124272&ppuser=6928) the four pirouetting soul mother dancers, though. Think I was in +shock+.
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Its not your fault , i didn't even see what killed us *shrugs* guess the updates were a bit harder then anyone off us expected .
Ohh well ..guess its a sign , hoping you all have fun on trips to come .
PS : to whomever that STILL says that wail isn't too powerfull , check the lvl's off those that fell and think again .
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I was just looking at the incoming wail and praying like mad that you guys could make the save. A second later I shot off the FOE, to no avail. Terrible.
Edit: I did get vengeance on that cow though. Took awhile, but I got him. If it's any condolence.
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Since no one else asks , i will .
Does any one know who/what is used to test the area and am i the only one that thinks that the complete area is too tough for any normal group in the lvl range of 20 - 25 ?
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I'd say the large part of balance testing is comparison of encounter that are, were and will be used. Probably some playtesting in a test module too.
However, who ever said it was for level 20 - 25? I agree, it's tough for an imbalanced party of those levels, but no one said they're supposed to be able to do it without help. Take the new toughness of the area as a challenge not as a bad thing. Even though I feel for you man, 2 in a row is too much for anyone. :(
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That doesn't answer the question , does it ?
In several posts it was stated that area's wouldn't be balanced towards the extremely high lvl's that now are in the world .
So now i'm asking myself what kind off characters were used to balance the revised area's and since asking myself isn't going to tell me anything , i better ask here if any one knows .
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Level 28. If I'm not mistaken from the discussion, you were there without a death ward and had wail of the banshee cast on you.
DC 33 at level 28 is relatively fair considering it takes a single spell to block and were we to 'max' it on the balance curve then it'd be DC 40 at level 28. 33 is fair game.
I'm looking more at the new creatures, and yes, I got whooped today as well. But it's one region. For now, if you go there, go there in number, and go there fully understanding what has occured. All you have to do is talk to folks, and I don't sympathize with casters that aren't testing the weave in each and every area given the circumstances.
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I don't care about the saving-throw or what has to be seen as " fair " , bottom line is that i wont travel there and will advice everyone that isn't perfectly geared and in the company off some very high lvl's to visit the place at-all.
I'm asking who or what is used , to see if i can find out what the gear is that was used and what kind of feats / abilities were taken into account to determine the stats of the creatures .
New creatures for which you need a 45 on attack to hit with a triple dam reduction and who themselves have an attack ( s ) that with ease hits a 43 AC , combined with poison to weaken and death attacks to stun is not something that i advise others to go seek out .
I don't know how many HP they have , but my immune to ability drain weaponmaster/ fighter with not the perfect but also not the weakest gear gets whipped in a toe to toe fight ( and yes , one on one ) while he does damage every second hit ?
Not to mention that the creature wasn't even " medium " damaged after that .
That does not sound like a normal lvl 28 to me .
edit : wasn't even one on one , it was two off us and one of them .
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Level 28. If I'm not mistaken from the discussion, you were there without a death ward and had wail of the banshee cast on you.
DC 33 at level 28 is relatively fair considering it takes a single spell to block and were we to 'max' it on the balance curve then it'd be DC 40 at level 28. 33 is fair game.
I'm looking more at the new creatures, and yes, I got whooped today as well. But it's one region. For now, if you go there, go there in number, and go there fully understanding what has occured. All you have to do is talk to folks, and I don't sympathize with casters that aren't testing the weave in each and every area given the circumstances.
BTW. the caster WAS casting , i don't know if anyone of the group went ahead earlier , but as Souls stated most off us never even saw the thing that casted wail until we were dead .
I'm not planning on asking to get the SS from that wail reimbursed anyway .
I am trying to find out however if it has any use to request the earlier SS i lost in a fight off two to one with a " new balanced " creature back on account of " not totally " ( i know i need to put another word here , but not sure which ) balanced to the " normal " characters that walk the world .
That is why i ask about them .
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Caps, overly exclamatory endings, and basic aggressive tone in sentence structure comes off in a manner that is bound to initiate a negative response. I'm pointing this out so that perhaps you take more time to think about how someone will read what you write. I've found in the past that not paying attention to this ends up yielding an audience that does not want to listen, answer, or help.
That said, I'm going to go ahead and let you know who I'm balancing for at CR 28, and what the common gear bonuses are expected to be. I'm going to focus on a melee, as I think this most relates to your query.
Rough Expectations for a Melee without Magic:
- AC: 10+8+1+3+3+2+3+3+2+3+4 = 42
- AB: 23+12+1+2+4 = 42/37/32/27
- HP: 300ish
- Damage: In general, I anticipate that damage over 150 per round subtracts a few points from the AB and AC above. Damage under 100 per round is anticipated to have a few more points in either, or secondary classes, notably casting classes.
- Saving Throw Bonuses (from stat increasing items, saving throw bonus increasing items, feats, and skills): +11, where anything above +12 requires a deficit, usually in AB/Damage.
It's important to understand that I don't build creatures with these stats specifically in mind and on a chart, as it is a lot less defined. But this is what comes to mind since you asked.
Rough Expectations for a Melee with Magic:
- AC: Raise the figure above by 10 to 15 with expectation of some manner of concealment %
- AB: Raise the figure above by 5 to 8
- HP: 350ish
- Damage: Same statement as above but change that 150 to 200
- Saving Throw Bonuses: +20 and/or SR of like level
- Then throw in the pace of a fully buffed party with all the other immunities and bonuses with around 6 people combating foes usually spawning in numbers of 3-6.
So, in general I come to expect a melee at level 28 to be using +3 armor, a +3 shield, a +3 weapon, have emerald jewelry, +2 boots, have either a +3 helmet or cloak, and have +2ish stat items in the glove and belt category. I also anticipate bonuses from feats such as expertise or armorskin and/or tumble. A very basic example (can't go into super close detail without talking about items in game) of this would be:
- Mithril Longsword with silver and cold damage IV rods attached
- Mithril Full Plate or +3 equivalent
- Mithril Tower Shield or +3 equivalent drop
- Emerald Stat Ring x2
- Ruby or emerald in mithril amulet or emerald stat ring
- Hardiness +2 Boots or equivalent
- +2 Stat Bracers
- +2 Stat Belt or DR/skill/etc belt
- +2 Stat Helm or +3ish AC Helm
- +3ish AC cloak, or +2 combination cloak with aspects like saving throw bonuses, damage reduction, stat bonuses, or immunities
Now, if these seem crazy to you, well... CR 28 is darn near the realm of 'high epic'. And in addition to this, the region in question leads to the highest level CNR, which bumps things up a fair bit. Perhaps to better equip yourself you need to work with friends to acquire these things, or perhaps focus on hunting lower level creatures until you are well enough equipped to take on creatures of like level.
And hey, you don't have to hit the wicket on those stats above to play here and have fun. Nor do you have to build the most powerful PC you possibly can. What you do need to understand is that creatures have to be built to be just a tad bit harder then the status quo dictates as AI is dumber then the PC. And you need to be happy with your character. In every character build you take a bit there to give a little here, and so on and so forth. What should result is something that you're happy with. And if things the same level are trouncing you, perhaps you need to shoot a little lower until you can get up to speed, or... perhaps your group just isn't well enough rounded to take on the challenge.
Now, with the particular region in question, sure, there's some ongoing evaluation as to how hard things are and the placement of a few spawns. It's a big change and some things feel a little hard. That said, were I to have simply plopped a section of the Deep at that CR in place of the Thunder Peaks... it'd be the same story. Much of it has to do with the acquired expectation of ease of travel, and how big a net change it is from that. Examples of CR 28 creatures that you can compare this with would be the multiple types of Genasi, perhaps the Nightfall Bandits which are 26, drow clerics, blade masters, master rogues and the like at that CR, quasi elementals, trollocs from the Great Forest, higher level ogrillions from the great forest, and fire giants to name a few. Some of the examples in there should really hit it home as to the relative challenge.
I hope that helps.
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Thanks for the explanation ,not sure what you mean with the caps comment but i'll refrain from using cap's unless i start a sentence .
Just a few things i would like to point out , since it seems that people think every one has everything .
The cnr you referred to that is at the end of the trail , is the same cnr needed to make the + 3 armor / shield / helm and weapon you describe .
Not many have those and even less can get to it and sell it so others can obtain items made of it .
Not to mention that with the two veins that were there ( not knowing if that has changed ) and needing ten ingots = 40 nuggets and someone smelting it and making armors / 6 or so ingots for shields / same amount more or less for weapons / with it already made it almost impossible to obtain the items in the first place .
I'm going to assume that the damage you calculate is from at least 6 melee attackers on the same creature , since i noticed that i with my char did around 20 ( 35 str / + 45 ab for the first strike ) and Fenrir did about 5-11 when not critting .
The fun in playing , as you hopefully will understand , gets overshadowed fast once you realise that the things you need to see other places is so far away from obtaining that its mostly impossible to get .
Placing it behind even harder to fight creatures and with that further making it materials that only the very well build and very well equipped characters can get , isn't going to help the ones that don't posses them but strengthen the position of those same over powerful characters that do have those items .
If you want , i can show you with my character that the damage you are talking about not even comes near to what a fighter build does witch is build with rp in mind .
That is what mostly gets overlooked since the higher chars are too powerful anyway and the lower ones just under it seemingly get forced to travel in the same areas over and over and wont lvl unless they can go on numerous quests a week , since a 1 exp per monster when 1.2 million exp is needed , is not something that is going to happen soon .
I cant help but think that the creatures that are now in place are focusing on the very same powerful chars that are already too powerful .
Of course every one can disagree , but with the limitations placed by means of even deadlier creatures in the few places you need to travel to get things needed to fight those same creatures gives the impression to me that not overly powerful characters , mine included , get deprived from seeing places that intentionally were build for all to see .
If you expect that people who are forced to walk the same places and same areas over and over again , keep having their fun over years off playing , then thinking of people that build a character to sit on a bench with no illusion whatsoever to ever to see the whole world i guess you could be right .
For over three years i (hopefully) have been improving my character in both rp sense and gear to be able to see more and more off the world and i now see that that effort has been for nothing .
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When I speak of the damage I mean before damage reduction. Your build exceeds the numbers I illustrated, so you are on the high end. And to further clarify, I meant your average damage potential for a single round per that character (i.e. 4 hits for Barion).
Our economy is not based on the premise whereby being a certain level entitles or guarantees you to be strong enough to acquire it. For generations of this server, there have been large organized trips to acquire these materials. There has also been 'trickle down' of equipment and resources. This has worked just fine, albeit with the errant emotions of envy. We additionally do not have an issue with a shortage of materials. There's little discussion to be had on this, our team simply has more visibility on the matter then you do. Level 28's on this server are generally as well equipped as what I listed below. Some better, some worse. Oftentimes the ones who are not as well equipped simply don't care about equipment because of their playstyle. Sometimes people who are better equipped have a consistent balanced group at their level which seems to be able to adventure more then others.
You seem to have this impression that we're balancing for the 'upper crust'. We don't retrobalance. And by that I mean that we don't balance upward once we 'gm's' have gotten our fill. This fashion of sentiment, whether it be to the staff or to the general community of those higher level perhaps, is not welcome on the forums. In all of this you fail to recognize one indisputable fact. Prior to the Thunder Peaks the only source for the resources in question was the Deep. The Deep is considerably more difficult then the Thunder Peaks. And for the years that this was the only mithril source, we had no problems at all in the needs of players save for the aforementioned envy. CNR balancing is not made to be soft and that's that. And for about 6 months there it was too soft for certain resources. What resulted was an overflow of these materials to a point where the economy was compromised in the opposite direction as you're illustrating. And at the end of the day, you can't blame the team, the community, or anyone really for what the balance of the world and the economy has yielded for you.
There are some balance questions about some of the new creatures. We're waiting and watching and seeing whether it's the new-ness of it or if the numbers are a little skewed, though I will admit that the creatures you're speaking of are not on that questionmarked list. They seem pretty fair from all reports I'm getting.
You walked into these creatures with 3 melees and a half-cleric. This is not a balanced party. Your group was lacking in so many ways that it's an honest shock to me that you would complain of balance. The Thunder Peaks were rebalanced to require balanced groups. That means multiple class types. Yes, you need a mage and a cleric up there now. That's the way it's going to be. And you sure as heck need a good melee as there's still a ton of dead magic. This is about as fair and balanced as it gets. Look again at those numbers I supplied you. You will notice that the 'with magic' numbers are hugely different then the magic-lacking numbers. Had you entered that region with a balanced party: At similar level (28 in this case) a mage to haste you and disable enemies, a full cleric to heal you and supply immunities for all, a tank to take point, a good flank to supply damage, and maybe a bard to supply bardsongs for dominating numbers... you'd bowl through there. And if you can't find that sort of group... well there's your problem.
I've spent a fair bit of time answering your pm's, answering your posts, and generally trying to explain things to you in a helpful manner jan. It's starting to be too much time. You consistently make disruptive implications of injustice in balance and GM decisions. So, at the risk of sounding mean, I'm going to stop the discussion here with this: If you continue to disagree on these balance points, you're incorrect. The discussion is over in the fashion that you're bringing it.
Now, if you come to me with a PM stating that you brought a balanced party to a particular region, with a list of the characters and their levels, and a specific issue with balance, then I'll look into it. By specific I mean: "After the rope climb you are immediately ambushed by 6 creatures that present an unfair challenge given the ambush" or "Upon entering the magic area you are not given ample opportunity to provide protections because of a spawn which is too close to the transition" or even "We had 4 level 29's melees in a level 23 effortless dead magic area, and we all died. This is the area and what happened...". There's a lot of constructive discussion with examples exactly like this. And this is the type of player input which initiates change. The manner of your argument achieves nothing in the slightest except further angst and alienation.
If you have specific examples as per the guidelines above, PM me. Otherwise, this discussion is over and I'm going to spend my time helping to fix the server with those making the effort to aid me with concrete examples and backing information. Because there are a lot of folks out doing just that, and it's permitting actual change without the passive aggressive sentiments of 'I guess it's all been for nothing'. They are too common in your posts and I'm done dealing with the all too frequent statement of innocence prefacing a post chock-full of combative sentiment.
I hope we can pursue a positive exchange of information at some point soon.
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I am going to add something to Chongo's post. Besides a few spots that need to be looked at I feel that what has been created is the first area of Layo is truly necessitates a well balanced party. I think these areas will lead to some very interesting RP and groupings in the near future.
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Aussies: Can we run the Gauntlet?
It's level 4 to 17.
So Gladyus or Jake Saltpetre for me. Either fit. I would like a well balance party. So maybe the low level rofi's?
http://forums.layonara.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=7452&day=2008-6-27&c=3
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I'm away from the 25/6 to 3/7.
Though I will be elsewhere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrier_Reef) my thoughts will assuredly be with you all.
;)
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Don't die. Seriously. Don't.
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Captain Jake Saltpetre is seeking a crew of seasoned adventurers to perform a mission of daring.
If interested please sign your name below.
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Aussie Time-Zone Group for the Gauntlet so far:
Jake Saltpetre
Chakar
Sein
Brandin Fleetfoot (dogboy)
A cleric would be a useful addition to the team.
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Gauntlet This Friday
Come on Aussies and Honorary Aussies! We need help here. Sein may not be there due to work! Anyone?
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might make it..but will have issues a couple of hours into it, but might solve that.
ok time problem solved now
.monk - Wanonahed ,druid - Admorin, or rogue - Thorn available
let me know what pc if needed please.
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*sighs* I am terribly sorry for not showing up, but RL decided that I had no time to be home at the time of the Gauntlet. :(
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sorry same here the day worked out wrong like i said t stragen , i was going on to night shifts and had to get some sleep ... but no matter my RL missus took my place *grins* so at least you had one of us there
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Whew! Thanks Aussies and honorary Aussies for participating in the quest today! Was definitely worth my 5am alarm.
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Thanks to both Lalaith and Filatus for last night! I especially loved the part where ...
*grins at the upcoming Gauntlet teams* Oh come now, you didn't really think I was going to tell you, did you?
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Arrgh twas a fistey crew thar. Der traps were feindish and der storm a feirce, but we made shore.
// Most impressive quest set up EVER. Was a blast.
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A Lazy, child-free, study-free, partner-free day on Monday.
So......
http://forums.layonara.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=8262&day=2008-8-2