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The Layonara Community => Roleplaying => Topic started by: septemVII on September 18, 2006, 08:32:33 AM
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Anyone think it's weird?
I feel weird doing it, but the truth is, I RP Girls better for some odd, and probibly better left unknown, reason...
Any other guys online here at Layo who just can't act out guys in a fantasy setting?
I hope I am not the only one...
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Nope, you're not alone there. If it makes you feel any better about it, you did a fantastic job rping the other day in your encounter with Daniel, Kyle, Rain, and Ferrit. *bows to Vershanon* If she / he ever comes back, introduce yourself to Drawna Eldreal. *winks* I'm sure it'll be veeery interesting conversation.
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Lots of girl characters here are played by guys, and a few guy characters are played by girls, its not as uncommon as you may think. *Shrugs* Whatever comes natural. I had my own reasons for Rping a guy for my first PC, but I couldnt uphold it very well, so I made Rhynn (who ironically encounters the problem that resulted in me wishing to play a male character quite frequently)
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I really find the sex of the person behind the character to be largely irrelevant. Occasionally, I'll find that someone is trying to portray the opposite a *little too hard* but otherwise, what does it matter? If you're playing a character, you're not being you, heh. Though admittedly, I had people questioning whether I was actually a woman myself when I first created Rayenoir, and nobody knew for certain for a couple of months because while I made no effort to hide that I'm a dude, I didn't feel the need to express that fact either, because there's a very easy subconscious reflex to metagame information even without a clear benefit or detriment resulting. That, and some people do tend to react differently to characters depending on the sex of the person at the keyboard. It was really kind of a game in and of itself to me. ;)
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I have 3 of each :)
Who gets played greatly depends on my mood at any given time. :)
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I only try to figure out whether it's a guy or girl that I'm playing with if we start shooting the breeze OOC quite often. Like Deacon for instance, we talk quite often when we're on at the same time and what and how I say things OOC depends on whether the person is a guy or girl. Other than that, if I'm just RPing, I concentrate on the character and not the player behind. Makes no difference to me.
I personally wouldn't play a female (and not just because I don't think I could pull it off). But I have mucho respect for any guy who's able to (or female who can play a guy. Though I think it's considerably less difficult to play a butt-scratching, pipe-smoking, ale-drinking, blood-thirsty dwarven warrior than it is a female of any type.) :)
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Whew... now I feel better about it hehe
Maybe it has something to do with my acting background, who knows, who cares?
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cbnicholson - 9/18/2006 10:59 AM
Nope, you're not alone there. If it makes you feel any better about it, you did a fantastic job rping the other day in your encounter with Daniel, Kyle, Rain, and Ferrit. *bows to Vershanon* If she / he ever comes back, introduce yourself to Drawna Eldreal. *winks* I'm sure it'll be veeery interesting conversation.
Thanks, I was pretty proud of my RP there as well :D
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even if some people do find it......eccentric.......there's nothing they can do to stop you.
but one thing that's a weee bit annoying is when male players make a female character with eight charisma, and in the character discription says:
"you see before you a beutifull woman/elf/half-ogre*shudder*....blablabla...she is shy" even then,
beutifull people tend to have 14+ CHA, shy people get -2 CHA, even after the shyness they still should have 12CHA, unless the person is so shy that they stay inside the house all day, but how do you RP that?
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Heh, just wait 'till I get my gnomish bardess in-game. It'll probably have to wait until NWN2, though, as she's got backstory with one of my current characters that I REALLY don't want to kill off.
And, of course, I can't exactly RP thier interactions where others can see. Eesh, what a nightmare.
However, playing characters of the opposite gender has always been interesting, for me; another set of archetypes for me to play around with. It's not wierd at all... If it's well done, it's the mark of a good roleplayer, just like playing a character whose personality is very different from your own.
As for the beauty factor... Heh. I'm vain. I can't stand playing unattractive characters. My low-CHA character (now deleted) Cynn Reyer had a CHA of 9. She was heavyset, but still not unattractive by any means - just really gruff. And those callouses, oy vey. :P Taking it to the extreme of "beautiful," though... Eh. Anything with lower than 14 CHA just isn't beautiful (generally speaking). Pretty, maybe. Gorgeous through the right pair of eyes, perhaps. But let's not forget that personality can add more to a CHA score than subtract, in my experience. Patton was a flat-out ugly fellow, but had a CHA of 18. "No dumb [soldier] ever won a war by dying for his country."
I've seen Veshanon, though; interestingly played. Bringing another aspect of Layonaran magic to light, I see, and good RP with those less-than-worldly characters.
"A witch? Erm... Jus'... Don' enchant me, an' we'll be fine, eh?"
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I don't know if you guys heard but I deleted Vershanon today... There was some major misunderstanding on my part as to what could be done with withen the canon...
BUT!
If I get my newest gal approved, you'll get a whole new treat: The snappy, I hate all men, Good looking but dosen't date type :P
(Woah, I better add her attitude to the submission as that is a huge part of her! brb)
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*not sarcastically* thanks for making it even harder for elven guys to get a date.
have the thumbs up (')(') (whoops, those thumbs look like they've been bitten off)
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Wraithdur - 9/19/2006 3:31 AM
*not sarcastically* thanks for making it even harder for elven guys to get a date.
have the thumbs up (')(') (whoops, those thumbs look like they've been bitten off)
Well, there's always other elven guys. They are elves, after all. ;)
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in the words of goldbeard "there are nee any elven lads, 'ere all pansies" and i think that i should put something like that on a t-shirt
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*cackles and mumbles something then walks along on her merry way* My only attempt at playing a male came out as a "Bishonen" "Pansy" Type...I had to delete him as it was not my intention, I can't play guys....Ugh...
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Yes, expand your mind a little. When I started playing Janice some other players where asking me, Doesn't that feel weird? ect ect.. I was like "grow up man" Its not uncommon by far and if you happen to write a story, wouldn't you usualy have female characters? Well you have to get into that characters head and see how she would view things so its no different. Would anyone question R.A. Salavatore when he invented his character Catti-brie? Its the same as role playing her as it would be to write about her. Expand that to movies and other story telling media and wow! It seems like its no big deal at all. Oh and plus growing up I was used to having "no females to rp with" (none of my girlfriends were very interested in D&D) So one of the gang might have a female character on sheet lying around somewhere around the popcan, cheetos and popcorn strewn table heh. So no, go on and role play to your hearts content. "Grow up" is a bit harsh to say to someone (he was friend of mine anyway heh), but definatly "open your mind", and most of all have fun.
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I dont really care what sex the player is personally. As far as being able to tell if its a guy playing a girl, a good rule of thumb ive found in this and other games has to do with how the female char is dressed. Actually I was told to look for this by a woman 10 years ago and it seems to be true. If the char is dressed as a tart its likely a lad behind the keys.
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ThrainSil - 9/19/2006 10:57 PM
I dont really care what sex the player is personally. As far as being able to tell if its a guy playing a girl, a good rule of thumb ive found in this and other games has to do with how the female char is dressed. Actually I was told to look for this by a woman 10 years ago and it seems to be true. If the char is dressed as a tart its likely a lad behind the keys.
I'm a guy who RPs girls, people here can I'm sure tell you that Vershanon was anything but a "tart" and did not dress like one
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ThrainSil - 9/19/2006 11:57 PM
I dont really care what sex the player is personally. As far as being able to tell if its a guy playing a girl, a good rule of thumb ive found in this and other games has to do with how the female char is dressed. Actually I was told to look for this by a woman 10 years ago and it seems to be true. If the char is dressed as a tart its likely a lad behind the keys.
Im a girl that plays a girl and most will tell you Bris wears nearly nothing. Thats not because she is a tart though but rather because she would rather be nude that wrap herself in fibers and cut herself from the breeze and feel of nature.
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hopefully I have not offended anyone. If I have then I apologize. But someone else must have noticed this, at least in other games? ANd even if some do dress that way Its not meant as a "knock" on them.
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In your defense....if i was to make a gal char....yes, i would make her look hot...so yes, she probably would look like a tart. I would have thought it would be easier to be a guy and play a guy than a girl. You already know how a guy would think in RP situations. If we knew how a girl would think.....well.....thats one of those mysteries of life aint it lads. Knowing that would solve a whole lot of problems. *chuckles*
Of course, before the girls start shooting me down, this is easily reversed from a girls perspective.
*runs and hides*
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Stephen_Zuckerman - 9/19/2006 11:39 AM Wraithdur - 9/19/2006 3:31 AM *not sarcastically* thanks for making it even harder for elven guys to get a date. have the thumbs up (')(') (whoops, those thumbs look like they've been bitten off)
Well, there's always other elven guys. They are elves, after all. ;)
ahem...Karn....ahem ;)
*Runs away*
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ThrainSil - 9/19/2006 11:57 PM
I dont really care what sex the player is personally. As far as being able to tell if its a guy playing a girl, a good rule of thumb ive found in this and other games has to do with how the female char is dressed. Actually I was told to look for this by a woman 10 years ago and it seems to be true. If the char is dressed as a tart its likely a lad behind the keys.
Rhynn's played by a girl. And look at her! *Chuckles.* Though it is just illusion.
Male players who'll dress thier character up in skimpy clothes are either poor roleplayers who want attention, or better-than-poor roleplayers who just enjoy seeing a scantily-clad woman run around, pixellated or not.
And honestly, now, who doesn't fit into those two categories? *Laughs.*
Myself... I've had trouble playing non-feminine female characters. It was harder for me to get into character, because I wasn't making one shift, from masculine to feminine... It was from masculine to feminine, and then a partial shift back to masculine, while still in the feminine mindframe. Yeesh. A real challenge, and one I sadly failed at.
Then again, I'm not sure how good I'd be at playing a feminine female, either. It's the finer points that make it tough. I am a guy, after all.
Again, I suppose my contribution consists of "It's an interesting, challenging RP experience to write as the opposite gender, be it in a book, a movie, or an MMORPG."
EDIT: By the way. Kenty, you make me happy inside. It's been too long on Layo without a good Karn.
And he's a Bard, too!
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*bows*
A pleasure Stephen! :)
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If you believe the Koppel-Argamon algorithm, even the style in which you type/write might reveal you to be of a gender other than that which you play. Roleplaying a different gender is a time-honoured tradition in PnP games, to be sure - and either way, it's roleplaying, so a perfect portrayal need not be necessary... but there's nothing wrong with it, that's for sure. I think it's a healthy exercise of creativity, if nothing else (mind you, this is true of roleplaying in general - roleplaying a character dramatically different from your own personality is just a bit more of a stretch - and everyone knows that stretching is good for you .;) )
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Well, me being a gal roleplaying a gal, I KNOW I could never RP a guy right. And who HASN'T seen Ash look like a "tart" at some point? ;) She's one of those "boots are made for walkin'" type of girls, incase you haven't figured that out. Plus a lot of women look tarty to me in RL anyway... even *I* look tarty to me!
I say, if you want your guy char to dress in tight pants *coughs, not pointing any fingers and winking* Then so be it. Everyone is unique in RL right? You should always RP individuality from my point of view.
I've seen plenty of guys RP girls almost exactly right. I'm not sure if I've seen a gal RP a guy right though, without being a pansy that is.
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Zelda1 - 9/21/2006 2:35 AM I say, if you want your guy char to dress in tight pants *coughs, not pointing any fingers and winking* Then so be it.
cant for the life of me think of who you are talking about! ;)
On a side note, if anyone remembers Kali my female PC, does anyone think I RP'ed her...erm...like a girl?! Odd question I know!
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In my defence! She is a xeenite so what can i do. :)
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All hail the +6 fullplate (string) bikini
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I'm a guy. But coming from a theatre background, I have actually played the part of a woman for the stage (which still cracks me up, since I'm better than 6 foot [2 meters] tall). In games, nine times out of ten I play males. However, there are a few things that will often lead me to play a female character:
1) In PnP, if the party consists entirely of male characters, I will very likely play a female character.
2) If I feel the need to challenge myself and my RP ability.
3) If I find the character concept lends itself better to a female than to a male.
Oddly enough, my primary character at present is a female.
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In the majority of Online games where the community is not as matured or experienced as ourselves.. the Female character is often the recipient of biased treatment... where by the Female gets better prices, attention, and free goodies from those quitting. Infact .. playing EQ2 as a human female necromancer I've often recieved several items free... just because some guy thought I was Hwaut... or what ever it is...
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In all the years I have been gaming I have never played a fem PC. As a DM I of course RPd many fem NPCs. I really should give it a try.
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i've started it now, but my PC(version du femme), uses a male familiar who talkes more than she does. cheating? only time will tell :p
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i RP girls alot...
some times it hard because i think like a guy (DUH i am a guy!) but i have had alot of experince with females and general... for about the first 4 years i lived here (i have only lived here for 6 years) i only had female friends, but i meet one of my now best friends, on the internet, on Gaia... (looks at icon) ok...
but to my point. i play better girls because i have had more time... i mean... i think Gerard from MCR is hot! and im not gay! they rub off on you... so...
spend time with girls, get to know how they think (its not imposible) and you can play them better^_~
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I know of a lot of guys who play girls. It doesn't indicate gender or sexuality, and having been on World of Warcraft for a very long time, you actually start to feel that every female you meet is played by a male even though you yourself (well, me) were an exception to the rule. Mind you, RP was extremely rare on that game, especially towards the end of my time there.
Some "girls" you can tell are really guys, but others you just can't. Once upon a time I would have said that most girls who were dressed in very little were probably guys unless they had a good RP excuse for it (Brisbane was an example of the latter), but these days I've played girls who didn't wear very much either (with just as much of an RP reason for it as for the ones who dressed neck to floor).
I do have a tip for guys who want to play girls though: don't play them like females in an anime - that's usually a big tip off, right there.
I also know a number of girls who play males - I should try that again sometime.
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ThrainSil - 9/19/2006 8:57 PM
I dont really care what sex the player is personally. As far as being able to tell if its a guy playing a girl, a good rule of thumb ive found in this and other games has to do with how the female char is dressed. Actually I was told to look for this by a woman 10 years ago and it seems to be true. If the char is dressed as a tart its likely a lad behind the keys.
I tend to agree with you here to some extent. This may be true in games like WoW, or other hack'n slash games. In RP games, even D&D table top, the women I have played with tend to be a bit under dressed and "sexy". Especially if you play in any kind of dark games with women (like whitewolf games). Just look at my wife's toons. Her half giant she has dressed in skimpy plate and her rogue she wears some skimpy things. Now if only get her to wear some of that stuff at home...*grins*
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I know I would do a horrible job at it, so I don't even try. The only exceptions would be possibly a dwarven barbarian woman or an over amorous half-ogre who chased the comely Paladins ala Miss Piggy.
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I roleplay mostly women as well but I believe that the best female halfling conversations and jokes are made by guys. Triba and Acacea still cracks me up randomly. You know you are going to have an awesome time when there is at least 1 halfling around.
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Except Acacea is not a guy...oops.
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Well, half of the jokes then are made by guys, then. :)