The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: AbnerMojo on December 05, 2006, 02:17:58 AM
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I've just recently got in a major part of a level grind. And I just have come to a complete stagnation here XP wise. I'm trying to do things to stay busy in game, but you can only craft so much, help people out so much, gather CNR so much. I'm trying to get parties to go to Dreger so I can at least get better XP. But not very many people near my level are on, or are available to help when I am. And it is very hard, impossible for my character to do it alone. Also I haven't had the chance to make any of the scheduled quest my character can be a part of recently due to time. I'm basically just bored to tears at this point, and wondering how to get out of this?
I mean does anyone know a good way to get over when this happens?
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just throwing this out there but maybe organize your own hunt and schedual it on the player portion of the calander?
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Did it, waiting to see how this one turns out. Tried player events before though, and ended up missing my own one cause people went and had it without me earlier in the day. LoL
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Ah....Millie's XP wall. Don't worry, Im climbing it too.
When climbing, everyone seem's to head to Dregar for a fast track climb, but of course, it's a bit deadly at times, and can lead to SS's earlier than you wanted them.
Only thing I could suggest is setting up a few Player led events to go places..Isles and dungeons....which could still lead to SS's, but at least your going with a team.
Bah *looks up, realising how slow he is*
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my philosophy is just to do whatever and RP with people and if I end up getting XP then I get xp, if I don't, then I don't.
Often this ends up with me not getting xp even when I could have done something that would have gotten me xp because I was having too much fun doing something else heh
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I am with TV on this one. I remember RP a parade in Hlint roadwalk with Alleina and the Hillername sisters. We had a DM on briefly and that was fun. The constant grinding becomes a tad boring after a while (without RP). Build your journal by talking to people, Making up events. Layonara is after all a RP server...action comes as part of it.
I look at The Great Wall as a good thing...because it gives you plenty of opportunity to build your character for CDQs WLs etc.
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Count me in as long as their is atleast SOME rp :)
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AbnerMojo -- If you can't make many GM quests, you are in a world of hurt. I used to logon to central and just wait and hope someone would come on since I'm a terrible solo'er. Very, very boring.
Also, you've only been playing Uilliam for just under two months and are already 10th level. Seems like you're doing alright.
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PnP .... Bring back BumbleBee!! He was the most interesting character I know at your level. You were always there but could never be seen. even without that HIPS for SD. love the newspaper too.
And as a brownie you did great in groups
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I quit Bumblebee because at level 10 he wasn't going to gain any more levels without grinding. Hopefully AbnerMojo finds a way around that pitfall.
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I remember the wall for my character. I remember thinking that it was taking a loooong time to get anywhere. And then I pretty much stopped worrying about the levels and just had some fun, got involved with things and before I knew it, the wall was behind me.
Levels are nice, but if you focus too much on them, you'll just be disappointed.
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Well, I've got three characters ranging between Levels 10-13 at the moment, so if you see any of them in person feel free to bug them a bit and tag along.
Of course, if you go with Melanna (Fighter/Weapon Master 12), be prepared to deal with her general grumpiness and dislike of most people. (She already knows Uilliam, and thinks enough of him that in most cases she doesn't mind his company even though she may not let on to that fact).
If you go anywhere with Lyle (Bard 10), be prepared to deal with his somewhat boisterous personality and country accent, the occasional silly-song, and his 'preaching' about Prunilla. Also remember that Lyle is not good for combat directly and is more of a support character at his current level.
If you go anywhere with Treana (Fighter 13), well, be prepared for her almost youthful zeal occassionally mixed with a bout of sadness, and her belief in Toran.
I'm usually available to go on a trip someplace so long as I'm not right in the middle of something else, and my character has sufficient RP reason to want to go.
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Well Sheree/Shri's only level 7 But her ECL makes it just as hard as if she was a nine or ten level character (of course she has the potential to be just as good as one too).
Of course I'd be willing to give Rhynn a break and sign onto another character to rp with you. Remember though Shri's a Drow and that may lead to some frustrating or interesting times!
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AbnerMojo - 12/5/2006 5:17 AM I've just recently got in a major part of a level grind. And I just have come to a complete stagnation here XP wise. I'm trying to do things to stay busy in game, but you can only craft so much, help people out so much, gather CNR so much. I'm trying to get parties to go to Dreger so I can at least get better XP. But not very many people near my level are on, or are available to help when I am. And it is very hard, impossible for my character to do it alone. Also I haven't had the chance to make any of the scheduled quest my character can be a part of recently due to time. I'm basically just bored to tears at this point, and wondering how to get out of this? I mean does anyone know a good way to get over when this happens?
What are you doing tonight, Uilliam? Are you EST? Key needs about 107,000xp to level, and I'd be glad to go around Central with you.
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Im coming with you guys (as Shri). We can talk in game though ;)
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LynnJuniper - 12/5/2006 12:50 PM Im coming with you guys (as Shri). We can talk in game though ;)
Give me a time, Rhynn-o. I'm out of class at 9pm EST, and should be back home by 930est.
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That works.
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If you have room for another, I'd love to head off with the group.
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I'm going to have to side with TV here. I've been a member of the Layo community for around two years now, I've got three characters, and the highest level among them is 9. When I first started I was worried about nothing else but leveling. That coupled with my extremely bad RP skill at the time caused this fiasco; the first words out of my first character's mouth were "Hi, do you know a good place to fight around here? I need to level up." Granted, it took me a few tweaks to find a character that I just absolutely love playing, but once i found Minugi, I don't worry about leveling at all. Now, I'll be the first to admit that if I get xp I'm not going to complain, I mean who wouldn't want to be among the greats of this community. However, and anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Layonara is a RP based server. That's why the xp requirements per level are so large. The world was created that way so that we wouldn't have hundreds of lvl 40's running around. My advice to you is to find a character (and perhaps you already have) that you absolutely love to RP. From there just have fun with it. Like Dorg said, enjoy the ride and soon you'll be there. If you stare at the peak of the mountain while you climb it will take forever to reach, but if you look around at all of the beauty of the people and world around you while you climb, you'll be there in no time. ;)
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Hey Dorgy,
I remember the wall for my character. I remember thinking that it was taking a loooong time to get anywhere. And then I pretty much stopped worrying about the levels and just had some fun, got involved with things and before I knew it, the wall was behind me.
Levels are nice, but if you focus too much on them, you'll just be disappointed.
Is there any way that you can hide that XP value so that people don't have to worry about it? :P
Seriously, I admittedly look at my level from time to time and I plan what I am going to choose for my characters, the feats etc, but I focus in on the RP and live with the level that i am at in the game.
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I'm always up for a trip to Dreger, so just let me know when you are all going.
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Trip1888 - 12/5/2006 2:53 PM
... I mean who wouldn't want to be among the greats of this community.
I honestly don't measure the "greats of the community" by how high a level character they have.
Some of the people I consider in this category don't have any characters above the low teens.
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AbnerMojo -- You are going to have trouble getting offers of travel because your PC's name has quotes in it: No one can send you an unsolicited tell ingame.
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Here is the part that I don't quite understand. Why do people persist on the "I'm right, you're wrong." mentality? Layo is first and foremost an RP server. Says so right on the marquee above the door. So we all have that in common. Layo is based on the NeverWinter Nights single player video game that was created using the Dungeons & Dragons ruleset. So we all have that in common, too. There are three main things you can do when you log on to a Layonara server: 1) Role Play. Hang around Hlint, Prantz, the Arms, the Freelancers and Role Play. Become involved in the world. Annoy dragons, tell Broegar's men that he wears frilly garmets. Be your character. 2)Craft. Find that CNR. Stock up on it.Sell a quality product at a fair price. Become rich. 3) Beat stuff up. Make the goblins in the Red Light Caverns rue the day you rolled your [Insert class here]. Hack and slash has long a venerated past.
Nothing is wrong with any of those options. All are viable choices. I love to role play. I'm not overly good at it yet, but it takes practice. I enjoy milling about Hlint, bumping into people and figuring out how my Cleric of Lucinda will deal with them. I love going on quests. Being a part of something bigger is a kick. I also enjoy crafting. I had a day off yesterday and I spent 5 hours digging clay and sand so I could get my tinkering up. I told my wife that I was looking forward to doing it. It was fun. I also enjoy beating up the native denizens of the world. I like the experience. The gold I take from their corpses funds my crafting. The areas I wander through help me be a better role player because now I can say "Wait, there may be orcs around that tree. They like to hang out in these woods."or some such. I contribute. Also, not to put to fine a point a point on it, but I like to see my character progress. I like getting new spells. They help both my survivability and that of the party I am with.
Would I be content to level by quests alone? Sure. Love to do it. Thats not really an option when the last 4 quests I have gone to have been a) Shortened b) cancelled or c) I was allowed to go. See this thread HERE (http://thread-view.asp?tid=32549&posts=44&start=1)for that discussion. Am I upset by that? Not really. I found a group and went out and did a grind. Do I want to do that every day? Yech, no. I satisfied my bloodlust and went to dig sand.
There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to grind. There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to progress your character. It's all balance. Talan, Tanman, Trip, can you say that you have NEVER gone on a grind? It's not an accusation, just an observation. Every now and again, RP can take a back seat to wanton carnage. Yes, you can RP your way into a grind group. It's not as though that is what anyone wants to do every time they log in. If it is, then they may be on the wrong server.
Live, let live. I'll cheerfully RP with anyone on the server. I will also cheerfully grind with anyone. That's how I get to know them. Private messages while seeing new areas is enjoyable. This is still a game, right?
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*Is reminded why she loves her husband*
What he said.
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*Mutters about people not learning the art of politics.*
A person debating is automaticly thinking "I'm right, you're wrong.". If you check your own post, you do will notice that it is also about it. I mean, why on earth would people argue with other people if they both agree! :)
It's just a matter of whether one believes in "I'm right, you're wrong." or "I'm right, you're wrong, but I still can see why you are thinking as you do.".
I wonder how these threads are always comming down to the "RP vs XP" talk. No one will care if you do it a little now and then. Crack the head of the poor giants one evening? Sure! Why not? Unless you are a follower of Aeridin, that is. In that case, a lightningbolt will appear from the sky and cleave you in two. :P
I think nearly all of us have done that in one way or another. It's when it comes down to "Cracking the head of the poor giants 5 hours/day just for the sake of XP, items and gold." when people are going to frown at you. I believe you misunderstood what the previous people meant with grinding, Laldiien. It's the later case that most people are refering to as "grinding" and not the ocasional events.
The solutions to the original question has already been answered. A short summary here:
1. Don't think too much about the XP-speed-bump. It usually feels much quicker passing it if you don't think about it.
2. Get parties. Player events or something. Layonara aren't meant to be soloed, hence the reason of why soloing is very diffucult on places that aren't "trivial" for your character.
3. Get on quests. Not everyone can do it, due to a number of factors as work-hours, limited play time, etc. But it's surely the most fun way!
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What Weeblie said.
My Aeridinite went to Lar with some of his friends to have fun in the snow. Sure we cracked a few heads on Ogres, but thats not why we went.
Talan, Tanman, Trip, can you say that you have NEVER gone on a grind? It's not an accusation, just an observation. Every now and again, RP can take a back seat to wanton carnage.
And the last time I was doing a bit of grinding with my Aeridinite, I did face the wrath of Aeridin. I gained a DT. ;)
I wonder how these threads are always comming down to the "RP vs XP" talk. No one will care if you do it a little now and then. Crack the head of the poor giants one evening? Sure! Why not? Unless you are a follower of Aeridin, that is. In that case, a lightningbolt will appear from the sky and cleave you in two.:P
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I know that I have ranted on and on about this but thre truth is, the walls there to make the game fun for the 50& who play for hours and hours and stop high level players over running Layo, if your like me and play the odd hour here and there, your impact on the world is minimal most other played dont know who you are and you dont do GM games
So how can oit voice carry the same wait, lets be far there are players who RP there guts out here. Yes it would be nice for the GMS to say well You have been here for a year real time and your still 7th level, your a ok player and you have a nice PC heres a loylt reward of some XP.
But thats just more work for the DMs and well would lead to a nightmear I just know it, so when you play as little as me then its the price you pay.
So I just play low level PCs and in fact it works out fine for me, most players stay around Hlint any way and to be far its where the action is.
The facts are the wall is there, DM games and long hours of play, Playing one PC only realy helps are the way past it.
But at the end of the day RP "is" what its all about and good players I have met here can RP at 7th just as much as 27th.