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Title: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: gilshem ironstone on February 04, 2007, 02:26:35 PM
What races can dwarves have children with?
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Laldiien on February 04, 2007, 02:37:50 PM
Can or should? I mean, who other than a dwarf would want to? Yeachh!
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: gilshem ironstone on February 04, 2007, 02:46:03 PM
Hey!  Dwarves will always provide for their families, are good savers, and always come home on time... Unless they have been hitting the Sledge Draft.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 04, 2007, 03:12:58 PM
Dwarves cannot breed with any other non-dwarven races.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Stephen_Zuckerman on February 04, 2007, 03:15:28 PM
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Dorganath - 2/4/2007  6:12 PM

Dwarves cannot breed with any other non-dwarven races.


I've seen half-dwarves in game... Either mechanically as humans or as dwarves, but they were RPed as half-dwarves.

Now, I can't recall the names, but I'm certain I've seen them.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 04, 2007, 03:20:24 PM
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Dorganath - 2/4/2007  5:12 PM  Dwarves cannot breed with any other non-dwarven races.
 What part of that was not clear?
  If people are RPing half-dwarves in-game, I'm really doubtful that was approved...and if it was approved, then it should not have been.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: lonnarin on February 04, 2007, 03:25:24 PM
Yeah.  The dwarven genome is too tough for the unstocky blood humanoids.  Ruptures the entire cell-wall during mitosis.

Now there can be interrcial marraiges and humans raised by dwarves, but never will you see a half-dwarf.  It's unprecidented in all fantasy settings.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Eight-Bit on February 04, 2007, 06:30:22 PM
The only "Half-Dwarf" I know of was a Half-Elf, Half-Dwarf Paladin of Vorax from Beta Four. I can't remember her name but she was a good friend of Llu's and we pretty much "grew up" together on Layonara.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Witch Hunter on February 04, 2007, 06:59:14 PM
Elves explode when they see naked dwarves, it's in the bible.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: LynnJuniper on February 04, 2007, 07:15:19 PM
I dunno I always thought dwarves and gnomes would be safe with mating

But I guess what Dorg says goes
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: gilshem ironstone on February 04, 2007, 08:27:04 PM
Thanks for the answer.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Talan Va'lash on February 04, 2007, 10:40:59 PM
Well there are Duergar and maybe Azers, but those fall into the "dwarf-ish" category.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 05, 2007, 05:28:29 AM
Yep...Duergar are dwarves, though any true Dwarf would never admit as much, nor even consider such a pairing. Still, breeding would be possible....hence my choice of words above.
  Azers are dwarves from the Elemental Plane of Fire, so while it may be possible for them to cross-breed with dwarves from the Prime, it may be tricky for said Prime to survive the um...encounter.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Blackguy on February 05, 2007, 05:32:06 AM
Har. Takes more than a wee bit of scorching heat to kill a dwarf.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 05, 2007, 05:40:43 AM
I didn't say "impossible"....only "tricky".
  But before anyone gets any funny ideas.... No, we will not be approving any half-Azer dwarven characters....so don't ask. :p
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Blackguy on February 05, 2007, 05:49:21 AM
How about a Half-Dwarf Half-Easybake-Oven?
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 05, 2007, 05:50:50 AM
*laughs*  :D
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Jearick Hgar on February 05, 2007, 06:17:24 AM
i like how we can get half demons and half dragons and such but when it comes to dwarves suddenly its like "ZOMG!!! crossbreed with dwarf?!?!?! NEVER!!!!" lol


on the other hand i could easily see a gnome and a dwarf mixign it up, they are somewhat similar
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 05, 2007, 06:58:07 AM
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Jearick Hgar - 2/5/2007  8:17 AM  i like how we can get half demons and half dragons and such but when it comes to dwarves suddenly its like "ZOMG!!! crossbreed with dwarf?!?!?! NEVER!!!!" lol  
  on the other hand i could easily see a gnome and a dwarf mixign it up, they are somewhat similar
 Well...there aren't any PC half-fiends or half-dragons on this server either. At best, a tiefling or aasimar can only have, at most 1/8th planar blood. Given the rareity of dragons, no one can claim half, quarter, eighth or any fraction of draconic blood at character creation. Besides that, fiends, demons, celestials and dragons are supernatural creatures, and so what they can and cannot breed with follows some different rules.
  As was stated before, there's absolutely no precedent in any fantasy setting for dwarves breeding with other, non-dwarven races.
  D&D 3rd Edition doesn't support it.
  NWN doesn't support it.
  Layonara doesn't support it, and we would have to go through a lot of pains to create a subrace type to support it (which isn't going to happen)...not to mention that subrace submissions are currently closed.
  Also not allowed/supported/permitted:
  Half-Halflings Half-Lizardfolk Half-Gnomes Half-Illithid Half-Brownie Half- (keeping in mind the last three are currently closed anyway)  
  I hope that clears things up.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Honora on February 05, 2007, 07:25:38 AM
Half-Halfling?

Quarterling?

2/3ling?

*breaks down in giggles*
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Niles09 on February 05, 2007, 07:33:16 AM
I believe demons and dragons do the.. encounter as Dorganath said while in a humanoid shape, they can do such things, or some of them can. At least that is the dnd version.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Rayenoir on February 05, 2007, 07:46:41 AM
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Dorganath - 2/5/2007  9:58 AM
As was stated before, there's absolutely no precedent in any fantasy setting for dwarves breeding with other, non-dwarven races.  D&D 3rd Edition doesn't support it.


Not quite.

In D&D 3rd Edition, there were stats given for Derro, which are suggested to be human-dwarf hybrids.  

However, they also happen to be monstrous humanoids, and also incurably insane without magical intervention of such power as Wish or Miracle.  Take that as you will. ;)
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Eight-Bit on February 05, 2007, 07:49:59 AM
On a random sidenote... anyone ever read about Kendelfs? Kenders (Dragonlance's name for a spaz of a Halfling) that mated with Elves to make a Kendelf.

I hear they were killed on birth.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: lonnarin on February 05, 2007, 07:54:47 AM
Yeah, they turned out like those mountain cannibals in The Hills Have Eyes... mixed with the subterranean beasts in The Time Machine.  Not even humanoid at that point, more like abberational monstrous midgets.

So please, do not crossbreeed the dwarves.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Niles09 on February 05, 2007, 07:57:51 AM
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Eight-Bit - 2/5/2007  4:49 AM

On a random sidenote... anyone ever read about Kendelfs? Kenders (Dragonlance's name for a spaz of a Halfling) that mated with Elves to make a Kendelf.

I hear they were killed on birth.


oh Kenders... I miss those wierdos. Tass was awesome.
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: cbnicholson on February 05, 2007, 07:58:35 AM
Anyone remember Dark Sun Fantasy setting?  Mul - 1/2 dwarf /1/2 human.  So its not entirely unprecendented.   ;)
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: lonnarin on February 05, 2007, 08:09:13 AM
Ok, if you have a half dwarf from an obscure setting published in 1986, it will be grandfathered in, but only to the pnp tabletop game it came from and not to the campaign on the server.  Layo dwarves only make dwarf babies.  Any halfbreeds in the timeline were devoured by Ozymandius during the great drought of '106, which was not so much of a drought but just 3 consecutive days in which it did not rain.

There is a mongrelman in Arabel who might qualify kind of, but his bloodline is so polluted we think he's just a very ugly, bartending dog that was birthed from a fish.  Smells like one.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Dorganath on February 05, 2007, 08:10:51 AM
Fine fine...I retract my "unprecedented" comment...
  But it's still not happening.
  And I always saw Derro as an unnatural crossing, not a product of standard breeding. *shrugs*
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Leanthar on February 05, 2007, 08:27:10 AM
As Doganath stated (multiple times mind you), this is not going to happen or be approved. Lets end this discussion here.
Title: RE: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Jearick Hgar on February 05, 2007, 08:29:36 AM
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Dorganath - 2/5/2007  8:10 AM    Fine fine...I retract my "unprecedented" comment...
  But it's still not happening.
  And I always saw Derro as an unnatural crossing, not a product of standard breeding. *shrugs*
   
 how do you unnatural breed back in the days before science and cells? O.O
Title: Re: A Question for Ed or Leanthar
Post by: Leanthar on February 05, 2007, 08:30:18 AM
Right okay. This is done now. You guys/ladies need to understand that we are so far beyond swamped it is not funny. We can not spend time answering the same thread over and over again. After a while we need to just say enough is enough. And this one has gone on too long.
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