The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Skywatcher on February 06, 2007, 12:31:11 PM
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I am curious if it would be possible for the team to post a thread or just list a bunch of the players who are considered Excellent Rp'rs in the opionion of almost everyone. The purpose is so that I and others would have an idea of some people that we could try to spend time with to see what the standard of excellence is in RP. I don't want this to be a popularity contest and I know there is arisk of some getting feelings hurt if they are not on the list but I think it could be helpful to the community to know who the people are who set the standard so that they can be emulated. So what I am looking for is a list of currently active players who the community recognizes as excellent role players. The more the better as far as the number of people on the list. Thanks for considering it.
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Personally I really think there are many great roleplayers here on Layonara. And probably even more amongst those I've never really got to meet that well.
I wouldn't start to make a list though, since there's so many ways to look at roleplaying.
Some people like to RP different things. Like there's a lot of people who like to play fun and comical characters to make others laugh, then there's those who like to play original characters, those who play serious characters and enjoy some drama RP.
Then there's RP purists who think RP should mean everything even at the cost of playing fun. Then there's people who know how to take other players into consideration even if it means a bit of metagaming or such. And the list goes on about the differences, and of course that leads to different people having different views on what is good roleplaying.
You shouldn't be too worried about being an excellent roleplayer or anything. You don't need to be the best roleplayer around to play on Layonara and to enjoy it. Just do your best and that's more than well done.
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*nods in agreement to IDii's post*
In addition, you'll know a good RPer when you encounter them. A good RPer will create a convincing character that you're interacting with. Whether they be comical and over-the-top, or serious and staid, a good RPer creates a character with whom your character interacts... and convinces you that they're a person, not just a puppet being manipulated. Anyone who can immerse you to that degree is being a good RPer.
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I don't think putting such labels on people would be fair to anyone...so that said I agree with IDii and Darkstorme. If you see a good rper you'll know. Usually they are the same people willing to go the extra mile and answer just about any questsions that crop up or atleast point you in the direction of someone who can.
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Let me give you a hint: Everyone who's replied to your post is a good RPer. (I'd like to think that includes me, but hey.)
My general rule of thumb is Darkstorme's. If they're playing the character, who has a life and personality all their own, then... Well, och. Good roleplayer, there. Perhaps the personality's similar to their own, perhaps not... Either way, if you see the character, rather than the character being played by the player, then you're looking at a good RPer.
If you see someone who's a good roleplayer, and you're looking for a rolemodel, well... There. You've got one, now. Watch them, see what they do and don't do. Compliment them... I try to always, at the end of a good session with a group of players, drop a "Great RP!" when the RP's been great. And let them know that you want to get it right. I have no compunctions about telling people what they're doing blatantly wrong, but plenty of others do.
And to everyone who already knows how it's done? Set a good example. That's the best way to ensure quality in the people around you.
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have to give kudos to Stephen there... pretty much captured what I wanted to say...
I learned how to RP on my first PW server exactly how you described it.
Great Post.
- I try to play the 20 question game when I create a character... his fears? likes? dislikes? obsessions etc?
In essence L and the team are helping everyone from the start by requiring a character bio.
I don't believe it's in place to test your ability as a role player... but in turn to make you THINK more of your character before clicking 'Done' ;P
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Some of the best RPers I know are also the same ones who are putting insane amounts of work on the team and not playing very much because of it and are the ones I met when I first started playing many moons ago.
People who impressed me are usually the ones who make me laugh. Examples are a certain Dwarf who does randomn fortitude checks or a certain somewhat airheaded elvish bard that never stops talking. There are more examples but my mind starts to go at this time of day.
A great example this weekend was a certain person with a drinking problem was continually challenged by his friend who continued to deny he had a drinking problem. Even without the friend in the party the person with the problem kept RPing the problem with other parties as well. That kind of consistency will help you in making your RP consistent and known by a lot of people.
Then of course the one that keeps feeding his skull always cracks me up too, but I'm kind of twisted like that.
Now mind you that is only people I come into contact with and that's not a lot since I have limited time periods during which I can play.
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Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll just keep an eye out and do my best. I guess it's just that RP is such a subjective thing. I keep reading in posts where people say this was good RP or that was bad RP and I haven't been doing this long enough to feel like I can judge that. If the standard is creating an original character that is believable and staying in character as much as possible then I'll just shoot for that for now. Thanks again for the help.
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Stephen you're perhaps the best I've encountered so far, or at least you rank high among them, just so you know :P
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That really means a lot, but you should see IDii, Jess, or Jamie in action, just to name examples from above my post. *Chuckles.*
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Hey! No making me blush!
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Lynn Juniper does play a nasty streak and thats cool. I love the Rhynn antics I'll love to see a softer side to some of Lynn's characters, if she has any that fit that mold ;)
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Rhynn has a reserved soft side and I may yet make a soft character (None of my chars right now really fit it) But..er...:) Can we please stop talking about Rhynn and me before I hide under a desk from embarassment?
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*chuckles* When Shaw reconnects my cable, I'll be able to shine on the virtual stage once more. For the time being, however, *bows to Stephen* my thanks for the compliment.
But yes, Rhynn is delightful in RP, and either Pyyran or Grok is tremendous fun. (Grok's first soul strand was a tour de force.) And while they are excellent, there are many others on the server who are remarkable, entertaining, and characters in their own right.
*grins* As I said, you'll know 'em when you see 'em.
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I think it's safe to apply this definition to "good RP":
Roleplaying that's fun for you and the people around you.
And if that's true... Well. There's a lot of good RP to be had here at Layonara. :) (And yes, I'm blushing as bright as Jess at the compliments.)
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I agree with Stephen.. everyone who has posted here are great RP'ers. RP is basically like acting. If you're convinced with someone's act, then they're prolly a good RP'er. Bad RP'ers don't exists in my mind, just ones that need a little more practice at it. :)
And yes, Jess you are one of the best RP'ers here. Get used to it. Embrace it dear. :P
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I do recall your Aeridinite paladin Lazareth oor something. Quiet...she was played perfectly as an Aeridinite paladin. its a pity that you deleted her. A bit of development and such, she would have been a perfect embodiment of what it takes to be an aeridinite. Would have loved to RP with her. I love your halfling. Rissa, Wynry and Rose make for some fun times.
LynnJuniper - 2/7/2007 12:14 PM
Rhynn has a reserved soft side and I may yet make a soft character (None of my chars right now really fit it) But..er...:) Can we please stop talking about Rhynn and me before I hide under a desk from embarassment?
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Laereth had to go. I lacked the ability to rp a Paladin's conviction. She would've been better as a cleric.
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but don't forget: sometimes good RP also makes you hate the said character. not that they are bad rp'ers or they did something silly, but think of what Chanda was/is like... you love to hate her! cold, heartless, mean... great RP. And I've only met her once, a year ago, and still remember how cold she was.
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Zelda1 - 2/5/2007 7:08 PM
I agree with Stephen.. everyone who has posted here are great RP'ers. RP is basically like acting. If you're convinced with someone's act, then they're prolly a good RP'er. Bad RP'ers don't exists in my mind, just ones that need a little more practice at it. :)
And yes, Jess you are one of the best RP'ers here. Get used to it. Embrace it dear. :P
Yep, jess is great. But you mah dear are pretty durned good yerself :D
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I kinda think the whole RP comes to you once you play your character over time and build rapport's with other players. I came here with no Pnp or RP experience at all and pretty much fumbled my way through it.
Again, I'll mention no names for fear of embarresment....but you can learn a lot of good RP tactic's just sitting on the bench or wandering around aimlessly with folks. The more you have fun with it....the better you get I reckon.
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Roleplaying begins and ends with the player and the choices they make. However, if you want my best tip, try not to think of Roleplaying as what your character would do in any specific situation, but more of... "I am this person, this is what I am doing right now."
It sounds strange, and it's hard to word any way else, but I like to think that is the extent I have to say about how to roleplay.
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in my opinion, a good role player is one who's character is realistic. not in the sence that they don't do anything extraordinairy, cuz we are rping adventurers and heros, but int he sence that you could actually see a person being like them. from my years in the NWN community, i've always found that on popular RP servers (like layo ;) ) The staffing team will be excelent examples of good rpers, as they represent the server and it's standard in rp.
But more than that, you can tell someone's a good rper by if they have people aroudn them or not. People tend to flock to thsoe who are good at RPing becuase they enjoy themselves and know that they'll ahve fun whatever the outcome of the RP is. I've had many hostile rps that were just a blast becuase of the people involved.
As Stephen said pretty much if they've posted here, the people who have responded are good rpers, i know that i've enjoyed my time with the ones that i've rped with in this thread.
Just put yourself out there and you'll find the good RPers, and if you stillw ant pointers, i know i'm more than happy to help out with my views, and i'm sure others are too. =)
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If you really need a definitive list of Good RPers, look at the World Leader's list, they are there for a reason... But the real fun is in meeting new people and plumbing the depths of your own character.
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Feh. I'm not afraid to name names.
Starr Sapphire. Excellent roleplayer, and pays close attention to dogma.
Minerva; each of her characters has thier own distinct personality, another who reads dogma and RPs it really well.
Muirann. As chaotic as her alignment dictates, and not afraid to get a little mean :).
Daralith Del'mar: A dark elf, truely, deeply, madly. One of my favorites to banter with!
Jennara. What can you say? She is distinctive. Never seen her break char ONCE, even when I'm trying to crack up her player in tells!
Daniel. His manners and nature are so believable I keep cheering on his hopefully impending knighthood...
There are many more. I picked these off the top of my head. Lots of people you don't see often, or who slip under the radar because they RP a shyer character. Pay attention to the people around you...
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http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=34442&posts=2#M222090
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http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22907&posts=15&start=1
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21386&posts=2&start=1
http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15907&posts=3&start=1
Here is my list of good RP'ers. I think that anyone that puts out an effort to RP, regardless of level of RP, is worthy of mentioning. Not mentioning that new RP'er that has finally made his/her character come 'alive' is unjust and discouraging. Hang around Hlint or somewhere and watch a character go from...
*sits* (which is fine I am just using it as an example)
to
*hobbles over to the pole of the platform, barely able to stand from his injuries, turns around and places his back against it and just slides down from exhaustion to a half slumped position* (again, just an example and I know is it still amateur league to some)
is fun and rewarding. ESPECIALLY, if you have a part in the teaching of the new RP'er.