The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: stolen on March 05, 2007, 06:31:52 PM
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A friend of mine has nothing but fantastic things to say about Layonara and I finally was able to get the money to buy a new computer(my old one dies after 4.5 years) and try this out and what happens... Microsoft screwed me. NWN as far as I can tell is incompatible with windows vista (which was on, pretty much, all computers you can buy now). I bought NWN diamond, and the game did load, but when I try to play..."This program is blocked due to compatibility issues".
I tried to update the NWN to the latest version and got
"Your game version is: 1.66.8074 English
An incorrect version of the file was found on your system.
The update was unable to complete, since the file contents were incorrect.
C:\\NeverwinterNights\\NWN\\nwm\\Chapter2E.nwm
File Size: 17088702
File CheckSum: c4aeece165bef1f2ed3958218d7844fc
Get the critical rebuild.
http://nwn.bioware.com/support/patch_english_hotu.html#crit
The patch has been aborted"
Checking online I have found no solutions. Bioware says they HOPE to resolve this in the future.
Please Help a newbie out. I have very much been looking forward to the Layonara experience.
Thanks in advance,
Stolen
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I don't suppose you can take the computer back and ask them to put Windows XP onto it? Or buy/download/whatever's legal, a copy of XP for yourself?
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I have thought about going duel boot with xp but was hoping I wouldnt have to resort to that. as far as taking it back... other than this issue I really like my new computer. I'd hate to have to take it back just fot this.
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Hmm, well I'm not too sure other than that. Sorry, Ill try to get someone more computer savy to reply.
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I was told from DeLL Techs that on the Microsoft website, there is a program to revert your Windows Vista to a previous windows version. Haven't checked it out yet ...
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do like it says and update with the critical rebuild
and it should be ok
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I tried the critical rebuild and got"you cannot use this patch with your current install of neverwinter nights".
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I run widows vista and have no issues.....
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sounds like you have an error in your install
wipe it clean uninstall the whole game
then after you have loaded the main plus the expansions
update
then load your layo haks
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Ravemore what version of NWN are you running. I got diamond, the only one I can find in stores. I dont know if if makes any difference but the critical rebuild doesen't seem to work on diamond. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and cutting out all the extras that come with diamond but got the same results.
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I'm running Gold.... Hope that helps you. :-)
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http://nwn.bioware.com/support/known.html#49
http://nwn.bioware.com/support/patch.html
And the real killer
http://nwn.bioware.com/support/known.html#51
As for downgrading your computer to WinXP. I highly advise against it. There's a small chance that you're computer might experience a few glitches because it was meant to run Vista.
It's all up to you, of course.
Goodluck
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this sounds like a real issue to moving forward. I mean the current player base will do whatever it takes to stay on Layo. But how are we going to attract new players if NWN cant run on Vista. The bioware website says it will not run at this time. Ravenmore, did you upgrade to vista over your exsisting applications/ or did you buy a new computer and load NWN Gold? I would say this is misson critical to the growth of our community. We will lose a lot (most) of the new people that come looking if we say "you have run windows XP, so wipe Vista and you are good to go". This will get more prominant as it gets harder to buy NWN and the churn on XP machines grows. I am sure that six months from now you will still be able to get NWN online but to ask people that have new computers to buy windows XP also and then to dual boot or wipe vista just seems a little too much. I hope our gurus here can help find a solution to this.
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*chuckles* like I said, I have no issues and have been running it daily for well over a month on my Windows Vista. I did not install it though. I hooked up my old laptop to my new one through my wireless router on a direct connect cable...I then transfered the entire NWN directory to my new machine. Took awhile, but went through with no hitch.
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so what that means is if you have a fully upgraded install it will run! But if you have a new install you cannot get to full up grade due to it being blocked. If it was legal you could create a image of your install and we would be done, but it is not :)
From Bioware:
1.51: Neverwinter Nights Windows Vista compatibility issues. (All versions) (Back to Top)
All versions of Neverwinter Nights to v1.68 are not compatible with Windows Vista and have been blocked from installation by the operating system. BioWare hopes to address this issue in a future NWN patch release.
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wait new idea. Use a old system and load and upgrade NWN and add all the files for Layo and then do what Ravenmore did. Still that is too much to ask of new players.
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If it helps, I downloaded all the layo haks and stuff directly to my vista machine and installed them. I had no problems with it.
I agree, it is a lot.
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I dont think it will be a layo issue with that said. But the base issue remains.
We really should mark this with a big RED light.
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I second that...
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THANK YOU TO Nephylim88I FIXED THE PROBLEM WITH THE UPDATER AND GOT THE LATEST VERSION AND NWN IS NOW WORKING!!! THAND YOU THANK YOU.
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alright!!!! please let us know how you did it (step by step) so that others can do the same as it comes up.
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the problem is with diamond and the critical rebuild. The CR on the internet doesn't work so bioware sent a different version ON THE DISK.
run that and you can then run the updater and get the latest version which appears to run fine.
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jrizz - 3/5/2007 11:28 PM so what that means is if you have a fully upgraded install it will run! But if you have a new install you cannot get to full up grade due to it being blocked. If it was legal you could create a image of your install and we would be done, but it is not :) From Bioware: 1.51: Neverwinter Nights Windows Vista compatibility issues. (All versions) (Back to Top) All versions of Neverwinter Nights to v1.68 are not compatible with Windows Vista and have been blocked from installation by the operating system. BioWare hopes to address this issue in a future NWN patch release.
Making an Image using ghost or any other recovery program is leagal as it is still making a copy on your HD. Well at least here up north of you it is.
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You're welcome. It's good to see everything turned out fine for you.
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Hellblazer - 3/6/2007 12:15 AM Making an Image using ghost or any other recovery program is leagal as it is still making a copy on your HD. Well at least here up north of you it is.
Making an image is legal. Thereafter sending it over the 'net or by any other means for another person to copy - THAT's the illegal part.
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Nephylim88 - 3/4/2007 11:10 PM
As for downgrading your computer to WinXP. I highly advise against it. There's a small chance that you're computer might experience a few glitches because it was meant to run Vista.
It's all up to you, of course.
Goodluck
Sorry, couldnt let this pass. You are incorrect. New computers are Intel core duo or Athlon X2. The OS has nothing to do with it. Just because it says "Vista ready" Doesnt mean it will run only Vista.
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I just bought a new system that had a legal, updated, legitamate fully microsoft supported copy of Vista bundled with it. Within half an hour I already wiped it from my harddrive and reinstalled an old 2001 released copy of XP and I'm not going back... ever. I'd rather have zero support from a company that sells me an OS that sucks up hundred of mb RAM and can't even include the same basic drivers on two DVDs that XP managed to bundle in one CD. Now I can't even use my old soundcard in Vista because the driver are "incompatable" with the OS... but on XP it works fine right from the getgo.
I'm not even going to deal with dual-boot... I just gave Vista the boot. ;)
And yes, Hawk is right. "Vista-Ready" is just a marketing slogan to say that something works on Vista. Since the XP community still makes up a large portion of the marketshare populace, most Vista-Ready products also include support for XP. Now the flip side, as I have found is that many older (and by older I mean made about a year ago or less) products that work with XP inexplicably don't work with Vista. This is likely because Microsoft came to some financial deal with the hardware companies to phase out their old stock and force the consumers to buy darn-near the same bloody cards and chipsets with new vista capable drivers, and refuse to support their old line. Also why such a wonderful and huge OS like Vista doesn't even have the backwards compatability to use an incredibly simple set of driver commands made for XP, included on the original XP disk which should theoretically be as simple to support as say, a toaster oven.
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darkstorme - 3/6/2007 12:57 AM Hellblazer - 3/6/2007 12:15 AM Making an Image using ghost or any other recovery program is leagal as it is still making a copy on your HD. Well at least here up north of you it is.
Making an image is legal. Thereafter sending it over the 'net or by any other means for another person to copy - THAT's the illegal part.
In fact, that's how most new systems are being packaged now, with the OS on a harddrive partition as a virtual disk image. If you ever need to reinstall, you just hit del or F12 during the initial loadscreen and select the partition's drive number 1st in the boot sequence. For making and managing your own images (legally, mind you!) I suggest using "Alcohol 120%" to create, load and mount images to your harddrive. It handles making partitions & disk images for you and really runs smoothly. Just remember that while you can make images to backup and copy your old disks that you own legally, that it is still illegal to do so with things you do not own, or to distribute extra copies of something you own to your friends. You can copy a cd for backup or mount it to your drive to make it read faster, but anything after that the FBI comes a-knocking.
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Oh of course i never meant to say to do it with a copy you didnt own. The copyrigh law in canada are slightly diferent though. I dont know if Microsoft changed their ULA policy for vista saying that yo could transfer and clean install only once then having to by a new copy. Here the copyright laws would make this ULA null.