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Title: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: vitor on April 23, 2007, 06:07:05 PM: Im confused about which should i choose (need some help), i wish i could buy a Wii or PS3, but i have no money, the money i have, is enough for one of these.
Whats the highs and lows of each? prices? games? and such...
Note: GC with 4 controllers or PS2 with 2...(allowing games like mario party... ;D)
some GC high points (PS2 lows): Metroid Prime... Mario Party... Resident Evil 0, 4 controllers... lows (PS2 highs): Theres No winning Eleven 10... Metal Gear... Ace Combat...
Well, need help to choose... post things about each.
Thanks ;)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: LynnJuniper on April 23, 2007, 06:27:30 PM: Oh no the Console Wars Oh No!

I always said it depends: If you want to play more mature games and Rpgs without so much multiplayer or "party" Feel, Go PS2. If you want to play fun multiplayer games with your friend with the occasional RPG thrown in (Zelda?) Go for Gamecube.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: hawklen on April 23, 2007, 06:41:32 PM: PS2. MGS. *nods*
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Tialle Dianesis on April 23, 2007, 06:53:09 PM: You'll find an extensive library of games on the ps2. The ps2's variety is the reason I bought the system.

I haven't touched a gamecube in ages since the majority of the games never caught my attention, except for the few you mentioned. The ps2, on the other hand, is still hooked up to my television and I still play on it every other day.

PS2's lacking on the multi-player games unless you're willing to pay an online fee for RPG games which is lame. >=(
Overall, I pretty much agree with everything Lynn said. *points up*
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: AeonBlues on April 23, 2007, 07:12:28 PM: What their saying is all true.

I got a GC cause my girl friend at the time liked the controllers better O.o

GC is not a lost cause. Resident evil 4 is like the coolest console game ever. The Price of Persia series is a lot fun. Eternal Darkness is another fun RP adventure game.

They have one D&D game, which eh... is more like Diablo.

AeonBlues
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: vitor on April 23, 2007, 07:15:07 PM: Indeed, MGS was one of my favorite games, awlays used to play it on PS1...
And, i've played MP, and RE0 once... and.. they're incredible... mario party i used to play on N64... (with 4 players =D) Zelda, Mario Sunshine...
But PS2: Winning Eleven 10, God of War, RE Outbreak, Ace Combat...
(thats making me mad =P, can't decide)
EDIT: RE 4 is on both \\o/ , if was only on one, would be the one i would choose xD, RE 4 is ... the game, a new version of it for Wii is coming soon.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: LynnJuniper on April 23, 2007, 07:29:21 PM: Seriously, my PS2 , Has been renamed : Final Fantasy Box.

Thats the only thing I use it for. When will I get PS3? When the first Final Fantasy comes out for it.

"They'll be making these 'till the end of time, so I guess that I will pay for these new games 'till dooms day..."
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Interia_Discordius on April 24, 2007, 06:26:11 AM: PS2 over GC, but Wii over PS3.

I love the Wii... **huggles it**
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: kenty191 on April 24, 2007, 06:40:39 AM: Zelda: Wind Waker
Eternal Darkness
Resident Evil 4
Mario Sunshine
Super Smash Bros.

Yay Gamecube!
Plus, its small, its a cube and it has a handle! What more could you want?

PS2 is only good for Final Fantasy *Sobs over not playing any FF's since FF9*
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Kindo on April 24, 2007, 07:26:06 AM: I'm Nintendo all the way. If you're going for the former generation, despite the fact that you can play all GC-games on the Wii (I admit, the GC is really cheap at the moment), there are plenty of fantastic titles for the 'Cube, and definitely not all are "childish party-games."

Beyond Good & Evil (http://cube.ign.com/articles/440/440088p1.html) - Single-player. A fantastic, albeit somewhat short, adventure game. There are some Zelda-influences, but the setting is unique and the overall atmosphere of the game is altogether fantastic. I love it.

Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (http://cube.ign.com/articles/363/363071p1.html) - Single-player. Epic, psychological horror. The story is unheard of in any other game, and it features a revolutionary "Sanity Meter", which will cause severe hallucinations and other oddities as it drops and as your character grows more and more insane. One of my favourite games ever. Period.

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (http://cube.ign.com/articles/488/488757p1.html) - Multi-player. It will be somewhat expensive if you don't have friends who own their own GameBoy Advance, but looking past that, this is one of the most fun multi-player games you can find. The setting and style of the game is one of my favourites in the series, even though it can be argued that it differs a bit too much from the original instalments to bear the name. It is still a fantastic experience.

Killer 7 (http://cube.ign.com/articles/630/630908p1.html) - Single-player. Now for something completely different. Killer 7 has insanely weird and psychedelic graphics and gameplay. You're a schizophrenic old man who can take the shape of seven different assassins. I'm not sure what else I can say about this game, really. It's crazy and completely out there. Unique, for sure. Just check out the previews or trailers and you'll see.

Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (http://cube.ign.com/articles/458/458922p1.html) - Multi-player. It's not the best Mario Kart, but it's the game-to-get if you're into four-player fun on the GameCube.

Mario Party 5 (http://cube.ign.com/articles/458/458633p1.html) - Multi-player. Well, the Party-games are a bit difficult. The new releases have a couple of new features, but at the same time they remove many of your favourite mini-games from earlier games in the process. Arguably, Mario Party 5 is the best in the series (not counting the original for the N64). At least until they release Mario Party 8 for the Wii. In any case, it can be a ton of fun if you're playing with friends.

Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (http://cube.ign.com/articles/497/497319p1.html) - Single-player. Ah, the original MGS (not counting earlier instalments for the NES) in re-vamped graphics and new controls. It looks good, it feels good, but there are still people who argue that the PlayStation-version is better. The story is still just as good, although told in a more cinematic way, in line with the story-telling in the sequels. Either way, give it a try if you're into MGS.

Metroid Prime (http://cube.ign.com/articles/376/376866p1.html) / Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (http://cube.ign.com/articles/565/565908p1.html) - Single-player. Together with Resident Evil 4, Metroid Prime is cheered on as the true masterpiece of the GameCube. It brings the classic Metroid-series into the third dimension, and does it so well with wonderful graphics, controls, and atmosphere. Its sequel is just as amazing.

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (http://cube.ign.com/articles/556/556422p1.html) - Single-player. I think of Super Mario RPG as one of the best darn games ever released, so how can its sequels be any worse? It's Mario. In an RPG. With a unique style of graphics. It's wonderful.

Resident Evil 4 (http://cube.ign.com/articles/577/577841p1.html) - Single-player. Hailed as one of the absolutely best games of the past generation. It's wonderfully engineered, and by far the toughest action/horror-games out there. It's already a classic, and if you're not getting the port they are making for the Wii, get it for the 'Cube.

Super Mario Sunshine (http://cube.ign.com/articles/368/368539p1.html) - Single-player. While not as revolutionary and outstanding as Super Mario 64 was in its day, the Mario-adventure for the GameCube is not at all to be overlooked. A lot of fun, with many interesting new elements.

Super Smash Bros. Melee (http://cube.ign.com/articles/166/166387p1.html) - Multi-player. One of the best multi-player games ever made, featuring famous Nintendo-character duking it out in a high-speed fighting-game. A sequel is in the making for the Wii, with a special appearance by Snake himself. Nothing but pure goodness can come out of that.

The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (http://cube.ign.com/articles/520/520523p1.html) - Multi-player. As with Crystal Chronicles, it can become a very expensive game if your friends don't own a GBA each, but Four Swords Adventures is a lot of fun with tons of fast-paced action.

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (http://cube.ign.com/articles/390/390314p1.html) - Single-player. Nothing needs to be said about Zelda. The Wind Waker has awesome cel-shaded graphics and fantastic gameplay. Not to mention the hilarious use of facial expressions to convey how Link is feeling. Next to Majora's Mask, it's my favourite in the series.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (http://cube.ign.com/articles/751/751266p1.html) - Single-player. Again, nothing needs to be said. Some claim the controls are better, albeit a bit less fun, on the GC-version. However you look at it, it's an amazing game.

I'm sure I have missed some titles, but all in all, I think there are tons of fantastic games to choose from for the GameCube, and I will always favour Nintendo over any other game-company, myself.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Kindo on April 24, 2007, 07:33:03 AM: Quote from: kenty191
Yay Gamecube!
Plus, its small, its a cube and it has a handle! What more could you want?

PS2 is only good for Final Fantasy *Sobs over not playing any FF's since FF9*
Hehe... Yeah, GameCube!

I hear what you're saying about Final Fantasy. Although, truth be told, I somewhat lost my flare for the series ever since Final Fantasy X (it... was not in my taste at all). The games took a completely different direction, one that I do not approve of completely, with Nomura's boring character-design where everyone looks like the same fifteen-year-old Japanese girl (Amano is a true artist!). I prefer the limitless look of Final Fantasy IX - which I hail as my favourite game in the series. Sure, I have heard only good things about Final Fantasy XII, as both my friend and my sister are playing it. Naturally, I will look into it some day, but I still couldn't care less about all the horrendous FFVII-spin-off's or how shallow the characters feel. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: IceDragonDuvessa on April 24, 2007, 09:29:10 AM: PS3? if youre wanting a PS3 why don't you just go with a PS2 most of the games are on there anyhow... PS3 is such a resounding failure Ive heard theyve even pulled the next finally fantasy from being exclusive to PS3 and are releasing it on the XP. 600 bucks for a supercomputer with no games is .
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: LynnJuniper on April 24, 2007, 09:52:01 AM: Final Fantasy 13...you know sometimes I wonder why I follow it...I could hardly get myself through half of 12 without getting bored...

Anyway, Yeah, I'd personally go with the Gamecube....Come to think of it I need to buy Twilight Princess...
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: magnusarin on April 24, 2007, 12:16:29 PM: Here's the thing. When you could buy two platforms for the price of one, you do it. Exclusive titles seem to be fleeing from the PS3 as if it were a sinking ship. It lost Assassin's Creed, which people are drooling for and that's just one of many. True, the Playstation line has always been the RPG heavy, but the Xbox is making a huge push to change that (Mass Effect, goes into his corner and rocks back and forth thinking about how good it should be). And while more strategy than RPG, the Fire Emblem series is excellent and only on the Wii. Plus, Nintendo has the strength of the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid series among others and while many of the other games for the Game Cube fell very flat, most of the ones attatched to these three lines were phenominal (Except that mario has d himself out to every possible kind of game a sport). For me, based on the price and library I'd take the Wii over the PS3, largely in part because if I want mature gaming I'll get it from my Xbox.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Lynn1020 on April 24, 2007, 12:36:15 PM: I think it really depends on what games you like better. We have Game Cube and PS2. Our Game Cube is played way more than the PS2. But it has a lot to do with the game choices. We love the Mario and Zelda games. :)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: lolli_gagged on April 24, 2007, 03:53:34 PM: I think you forgot choice number three where you scrap all the game ideas and send you favorite ranger a ticket to come sit on a nice warm beach in brazil. But I will over look this. As far as games (looking at my games) I still have snes and 64, so I cannot help you.

Living in the darkages.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: lonnarin on April 24, 2007, 04:14:37 PM: Quote from: LynnJuniper
Final Fantasy 13...you know sometimes I wonder why I follow it...I could hardly get myself through half of 12 without getting bored...

After Final Fantasy 9, the entire franchise is dead to me.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Timmy0420 on April 24, 2007, 04:32:25 PM: *clears throat*

PS2
MGS
GTA
gran turismo
medal of honor: pacific assault
manhunt
hitman: contracts
def jam:fight for NY (it is on GC but PS2 version has way more content)
soul calibur

(btw, if youre looking to play rpgs, save up the extra money for an x-box)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Lynn1020 on April 24, 2007, 04:34:50 PM: Quote from: lolli_gagged
As far as games (looking at my games) I still have snes and 64, so I cannot help you.

Living in the darkages.

Oh we still have those also. ;)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: kenty191 on April 24, 2007, 04:38:55 PM: Yay for SNES and N64!
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Timmy0420 on April 24, 2007, 04:57:56 PM: pfft
sega genesis and ps1 pwn noob64 and stupidnes *digs up and resurrects an old console war for no apparant reason*
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: AeonBlues on April 24, 2007, 04:59:01 PM: Oh, and if you are like me and prone to trip over your controller sending your console half way across your room, then GC is your only choice.

AeonBlues
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: MJZ on April 24, 2007, 05:13:56 PM: Quote from: lonnarin
After Final Fantasy 9, the entire franchise is dead to me.

Here here.

Huzzah for SNES! Favourite console to date. Still playing SNES games to this very day. *Points to Magic Urn on sidepic* Though now with the Wii, I must say my hopes have been slightly raised - feels like Nintendo's "done it again." Returning gaming to the fun of gameplay for a wide audience, instead of selectively targeting only 14-17 year old boys.

I say go for the GC, the Playstation was the best of it's time (silence, N64 fans! :B) but the PS2 was rather lacking - never enticed me enough to waste hundreds of dollars on it. *Points to the games Kindo listed for GC*

Oh and a curse on your very soul if you so much as consider Xbox (or as we clever folk like to call it... Xsux ;) har har har)

*Is like AeonBlues in tripping respect*

O.o

Btw - PS controllers are the most comfortable and efficient ever created (Wii aside)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: vitor on April 24, 2007, 05:47:00 PM: Aye, from what i've read here, GC is looking much better, has good games, the multiplayer, Conker's Bad Fur Day and Mario Party on n64 gave me a good feeling about 4 players on a single, and funny (the most important) game...
Just... any suggestions about games like Resident Evil or Silent Hill, or even Fatal Frame? (Survival Horror is good sometimes, i've played all REs from PS1, Code: Veronica on a friend's Dreamcast... and up to chapter 5 on a friend's PS2... :B)
Then, I think GameCube is the choosen =)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Interia_Discordius on April 24, 2007, 06:11:52 PM: Resident Evil is more of your typical zombie killing.
Silent Hill is targeted more to your mind, a scare that you give yourself more than the game gives you.
Fatal Frame is like a mix, although the second one was like a bad horror film. Expect running to be your normal way of fighting, since it takes way too much film to kill a monster ...
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Timmy0420 on April 24, 2007, 06:29:02 PM: "Oh and a curse on your very soul if you so much as consider Xbox (or as we clever folk like to call it... Xsux ;) har har har)"

yeah, its not like it doesnt have the best graphics and the best versions of all the multi-platform games or...
forza motor sport (they say its better than gran turismo. honestly i cant pass judgement since i havent played it but i havent heard a single word of criticism about it)
halo 2- best fps ever, period
knights of the old republic 1&2- if you like rpgs, get these games TODAY
morrowind-see above comment (theres so much to find in this game, i spent months on it, seriously)
fable&jade empire- again never played em but i havent heard any complaints
(i hope i dont come off as fanboyish or troll like. but seriously, someone tell me one bad thing about x-box. i have had plenty of experience with all of them and find x-box to be best)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: MJZ on April 24, 2007, 08:01:39 PM: Morrowind - months? How about years.. lol

Morrowind on the PC! The point of Morrowind was basically the mods. I have NO idea how you people survived without them. Hundreds and hundreds of mods...

Of course, Oblivion has been out for a long time now, and it's pretty much souped up Morrowind. So... I prefer the PC for that.

Heard good things about Knights of the Old.

But the Zeldas (especially Wind Waker), Eternal Darkness, and the Metroids are the GC's selling points, I think.

One good thing about the PS2 - Castlevania! :B

Then again, I still think it was better on the SNES.

(http://star.walagata.com/w/kindo/ric.gif)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: lonnarin on April 24, 2007, 08:17:33 PM: The only negative thing I have to say about X-Box is that most of its top games are already on PC, so I never saw the need to get one. If they had more console-exclusive titles, I'd be more interested; though I am appreciative for them being open in their licensing, being a heavy PC gamer. Sure I miss out on a whole lot of classic franchises by not owning a console, but after Final Fantasy became "watercolor animanga fluffykins marshmallow land in space", I really haven't looked back to consoles since.

I haven't found one yet that reproduces the undying beauty that was the holy trilogy of NES, SNES & Genesis. The games were simple, novel, inventive and addictive. Only a handful of the modern generation console games look tempting to me... the latest in the Chrono series, Smash Bros, that weird ultra cinematic game with the little red guy who slows time on the cube, Gauntlet, and the whole line of WWE games which release on everything BUT PC. (I weep every night at my PC for it's lacketh of smackdown)

Certain games in the timeline killed the joy for the console for me. This is my death to consoles rant. Let is go in chronological Order. (as much as current sobriety can facilitate)

January 31, 1997: FInal Fantasy 7. Not because it was bad, quite the opposite. It was so bloody good, you'd be insane NOT to get a copy! This meant however, that all the hardcore Final Fantasy fans had to do a very scary and expensive thing; jump ship in the console wars and buy a Playstation. Such was the betrayal of Squaresoft an aching and painful memory for us growing up... that sometimes you'll be dedicated to a game loyal to a console and it will just up and turn it's back on you without the common decency of releasing to any other console but the one which bribed it best. The searing discomfort in the core of our souls was quite like the first time ever being dumped by a girlfriend. It's like, what baby? I meant nothing to you? You're going over to HIS house, won't call, won't write? What about all the good times? It was my BIRTHDAY! *cries*

March 11, 1999: Castlevania 64. Listen up console companies... You are NOT ALLOWED to make bad ports of Console Classics! I repeat! You are NOT ALLOWED to make bad ports of Console Classics! I grew up living, breathing, eating, sleeping, stabbing, worshipping all that was Castlevania, and THIS wretched thing wasn't even remotely anything closely resembling it! After this, the Castlevania franchise jumped ship to Playstation... and actually rocked very hard there with wicked action and an unmatched soundtrack for a while. Not only was Castlevania 64 horrible in every aspect, but this was also the first game where one was required to shell out 50 bucks for a ultra kewl N64 RAM CHIP! Oh but wait... it's only FOUR MEGABYTES!!! ARGH!

1998, 4mb Expansion Pak RAMchip: So let me get this straight Nintendo... you decided to put an ultra-kewl slot on the board that you could slip back the hatch and ponder as a child... "what wonderous hightech gizmo will they invent for this mysterious slot?" and all it turns out to be is 4MB of RAM that could have just been soldered to the board in the beginning, and initially releasing it with... *gasp* 8mb RAM! And the only games that use it are Majora's Mask, Donkey Kong and Castlevania! I call pre-planned farce.

Febuary 11, 1999: Final Fantasy 8. The day the mana died. Now all spellcasters are just vampiric mimics who "steal spells" and EVERYBODY knows magic... I much better liked it when the main characters had different abilities and methods of battle to differentiate themselves from eachother, instead of being all the same character class with different stats. In the olden days you had roles that each character would play, but by this game you never had to worry about mixing your casters with your fighters and your healers and summoners... because everybody pretty much did everything. What worse, the story wasn't anywhere near as epic as 7. Such a letdown after the franchise JUST made me shell out gp for a new system.
SQUALL!!! *shakes his fists to the air and screams like klingon just murdered his son*

November 14, 2000: FInal Fantasy 9. *insert game* I am the main character. I have a tail. I have not yet entered puberty. Everything is all fluffy, everything is nice. Except the Black Mages are all esper-bots... ooops. And the evilest character is a chicken... ow. The villain is an effeminant man in a thong and a cybernetic halter top. Image:Kuja.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kuja.JPG)
*eject game*
*cries in corner*
Evil Playstation, I'me getting a Cube!

March 24, 2003 Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. Link is not Link. Link is some random kid who's about 6 years old and makes baby giggling noises when he talks. Everything is all fluffy watercolor and looks like it was produced by Disney. I am afraid I might be attacked by teletubbies...

I never bought another console.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Timmy0420 on April 24, 2007, 08:28:31 PM: very well put *grins* just wanted to point out that most multi-platform games are on pc and the only xbox exclusive games i know of for pc are:
kotor I
halo I
fable
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: vitor on April 24, 2007, 08:39:20 PM: Quote from: lonnarin
Evil Playstation, I'me getting a Cube!

March 24, 2003 Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. Link is not Link. Link is some random kid who's about 6 years old and makes baby giggling noises when he talks. Everything is all fluffy watercolor and looks like it was produced by Disney. I am afraid I might be attacked by teletubbies...

I never bought another console.

I guess you should play RE 0, 1 or 4... or even MP (1 or 2)... at least Leon is Leon, Rebecca is Rebecca, Chris is Chris, Samus is Samus, no one look younger than 18... and... I'm sure you're not going to be attacked by Teletubbies =P
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: MJZ on April 24, 2007, 09:47:57 PM: Quote from: lonnarin
March 24, 2003 Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. Link is not Link. Link is some random kid who's about 6 years old and makes baby giggling noises when he talks. Everything is all fluffy watercolor and looks like it was produced by Disney. I am afraid I might be attacked by teletubbies...

Hilarious. But not very thoughtful! Link is basically never the same Link in any of the games.. but that's besides the point.

Wind Waker is beautiful. I don't know about you, but I'm sick of "photo-realistic" rendered faces and shiny, shiny water! The graphics and display of Wind Waker was novel, daring, and while all the 12 year olds cried and screamed "what the hell is this?", myself (and others like me) breathed a sigh of relief. Physics engines and photorealism are all well and good for, say, Half Life 2. But they more often cause games to just look and feel the same - at the expense of time and production cost of innovation, creativity, heart and soul...

Err my point being, I love Wind Waker's unique take on the series. Do you really want every single installment to be exactly the same as the last? Also.. the Legend of Zelda is a fairy tale. It features a young boy in green who has a fairy-guide and slays bestial monsters to save the princess. So Wind Waker was chibi-fied, maybe that's not to your style. But would you have preferred it looked like every other game being produced at that time (and even now)? With a poorly-attempted realistic polygon of a rather androgynous pretty-boy somewhere in his teens?

I LOVE the Link in Wind Waker. I LOVE the fact that they included sound blurbs instead of voice-acting (I can't stand voice acting. I want to PLAY a game, not LISTEN to some dull voice actor READ the lines to me, very, very slowly! I am capable of reading myself!)

The expressions in Wind Waker are just incredible. Have you seen the look Link gets on his face when a boss pops up? Grrr!! Or when he sidles? <.<

Well, other than that, the music fits perfectly, battles are terribly fun (if not terribly challenging), it's quirky, quick, inventive, and addictive. It's not FF7, it's not Ocarina of Time, but it's an incredible game that has a lot to offer, even if it's chibi-fied.

But I'll wait for Kindo to jump down your throat on this. ;)

Other than that, I agree with everything else in your post, Ionnarin. Except that I'm a Playstation fan - Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, Tactics, Chrono Cross, and some minor fun things like Bandicoot (heh) were more than enough for me. Not like I had money to throw around on many games and consoles, anyways.

Edit: The #1, indisputable, invariable, incontestable reason why Wind Waker is worth it...
Piggies. Delicious, nutritious, mind-burstingly adorable, fat, fat piggies! Grunting and snuffling about! Piggies! :o

Re-edits: And what's wrong with Disney? Disney's awesome! At least, much like everything else, it used to be. :B Beauty and the Beast, anyone? Eh heh heh heh

Err I failed my will-saving throw against resisting the urge to go on a Final Fantasy rant. So.. here's a tiny tiny one (keep in mind it's 4am for me..)

FFVIII - As a member of the series, I find it looks rather shameful - can't so much as hold a candle to VI and VII. Every character is incredibly annoying, the same age, and has the same background - and thanks to Nomura's "designing skills," has the same face with a different hair-style. How terribly dull and aggravating. The plot attempted to be more "modern day" and just was left dull and un-fantastical, what with its poorly made "political struggle" and all. And I would basically re-iterate what you said about the combat system - either you're watching the same horribly long GF animations (boredom mildly alleviated by square-button mashing), or you're drawing the new couple spells from the enemy. Over and over and over and over until you've got between 100-300. Tra la la. Thank god the battles are easy enough that you very rarely have to worry about dying in the meantime, so long as you do remember to draw.

The junction system was a gamble, and it lost. It was a bit addictive to begin with, but it didn't last and it felt wrong.

The plot failed, the characters were completely aggravating, the battles were more often than not a tedium of hearing the "draw" sound played over and over and over again. Yet I still like this game. It doesn't elbow up to any other titles in the series (and like lo, I consider the series to be I to IX, and nothing after that), but I still consider it a well-made game. Just not a good Final Fantasy.

If you like different classes and skillsets, why didn't you like Final Fantasy IX for that respect? FFVII is my (and I'm being so unique here) favourite, and a huge part of that is the amount of grunge, darkness, and grittiness in the game. As far as sci-fi, anime, fantasy and RPGs go, the plot is nothing short of a masterstroke (plot-holes and gaps considered, we gotta remember, their release date was slashed by a month or so). Characters and char development - incredible for a game. I mean, for 2/3 of the game, the main character thinks he's someone else! Area design, atmosphere, music, battle, monsters, materia-system, LIMIT BREAKS, Shin'ra - all getting 11/10 here. Gotta love the purple jumper. Okay. I'll shut up about that now. What I was trying to say was - Grittiness.

Yes, FFIX is fluffy and hasn't much in the ways of gravity or epic-ness, which is all that VII (and VI) was/were. But IX too has wonderful design, atmosphere, and characters - it's just of a very different sort. I can't say I enjoyed IX anywhere near as much as I did other titles, because of that very point you're raising - "marshmallow fluffykins" isn't up my alley. I'd rather be following the trail of blood, bodies, and claw-rents in the metal walls up the many levels of the Shin'ra HQ. But IX I still find has value (and Vivi's just the best, come on), is still enticing, endearing and fun, still very challenging, has an excellent music score, artwork, and well, it's much better than VIII, all things considered. Mmm, tasty ability stones..

And whaddya mean, the main evil is a chicken? How about the toughest battle on any FF, the big floaty ball we call Ozma? :D
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: kenty191 on April 25, 2007, 07:18:25 AM: Quote from: lonnarin

November 14, 2000: FInal Fantasy 9. The villain is an effeminant man in a thong and a cybernetic halter top. Image:Kuja.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kuja.JPG)
*eject game*
*cries in corner*
Evil Playstation, I'me getting a Cube!

*Steals Kuja and hides him in a basement* Mine I tell You!
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Kindo on April 25, 2007, 10:02:35 AM: Quote from: kenty191
*Steals Kuja and hides him in a basement* Mine I tell You!
*Glove slap* I challenge you to a duel! The winner gets Kuja's heart. Heh, by far one of the most colourful and amazing villains in the series, only rivalled by Kefka (and possibly Sephiroth). Either way, I don't feel like ranting about FFIX for now. It is my undisputed favourite in the series, however.

In any case, dear Ionnarin, The Wind Waker is a visual masterpiece. While most game designers try to create yet another photo-realistic WWII-shooter, and people were expecting another Zelda in the style of Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask, Nintendo (or Miyamoto, in particular) went out on a limb and created a masterful piece of art with never-before-seen cel-shading graphics. Nintendo has always been about re-invention and re-building old concepts from the ground up. The Wii is a perfect example of what Nintendo is all about; revolution. They have always been holding the reins for the entire gaming industry. With The Wind Waker, they created beautiful art no other company would even dare to do. New games are not supposed to just be souped-up graphics of other, already-made games.

Games are creations of people's souls, and supposed to be re-inventing, tugging at our hearts, leaving us thinking "I can't wait to see what will happen next, or what they will do in the future!" The Wind Waker is one of those legendary pieces that will live on in history, simply because it dared to step out of line and walk its own path. Just like Ico or Shadow of the Colossus. The Wind Waker is gorgeous, and an absolutely fantastic game. It's sad that you won't get to experience it the way I, and so many others, have. It is by far one of the best entries in the whole Zelda-franchise.
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: MJZ on April 25, 2007, 10:07:23 AM: Quote from: Kindo
*Glove slap* I challenge you to a duel! The winner gets Kuja's heart.

*Sneaks off with Kuja while the two K's are locked in a battle-to-the-death*

Nyak nyak nyak... 8)
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: kenty191 on April 25, 2007, 12:23:32 PM: Quote from: MJZ
*Sneaks off with Kuja while the two K's are locked in a battle-to-the-death*

Nyak nyak nyak... 8)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*Runs off to find Zell to steal instead...or Wakka*

:D
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Vaedur on April 25, 2007, 01:13:00 PM: not to get off topic.. greatest Fighting game of all time..
N64 Wrestlemania 2000 heck about once a year some of my friends come over and we have tournaments for 15 hours strait.. that game rox.. just go buy that for your n64..

in reality.. PS2 has way more options and will be more fun, plus they are still making new ps2 games, where they are not making new gamecube games.

get a ps2.. if you want gamecubish, go find some classics for your n64..
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Laldiien on April 25, 2007, 01:44:20 PM: You know, I keep wanting to contribute something meaningful to this thread, but the last console I used was Colecovision.

Donkey Kong FTW!
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: Vaedur on April 25, 2007, 01:52:05 PM: DOnkey Kong?? BS.. it's all about mouse trap & the smurfs
Title: Re: Gamecube or Playstation 2?
Post by: HooD!uM on January 28, 2010, 01:14:20 AM: want the best rpg games...try to find a commodore 64 :) i love my c64 still to this day. but i still have room for my wii ps2 and 3 and lots of layo.