The World of Layonara
The Layonara Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: merlin34baseball on February 13, 2010, 02:03:57 PM
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Hello,
Me and my son were looking at our character in Lore and it seems you basically average 1 SS loss per ten deaths. Out of 8 characters we have ALL were around 1 SS loss per 10 deaths with two lucky exceptions.
Examples: Chaynce (level 19) 99 deaths 9 SS losses (2 SS returned due to GPs), Urick Stonebreaker (level 9) 20 deaths 2 SS losses, Green (level 7) 10 deaths 1 SS loss, Alton Tealeaf (level 10) 19 deaths 2 SS losses
Exceptions: Tyrian (level 19) 164 deaths 7 SS losses (2 returned from GPs), Laaren Lemeele (level 10) 37 deaths 1 SS loss.
Anyhow, we figured if you don't die more than 9 times total you can reach level 40 with NO SS losses!:)
No idea if this is useful, just our observations!
My Thanks,
Merlin34
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ah yes and then you have the Admorin factor............and that's not good.
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That actually works out perfectly for me... strange.
Keppli has 60 deaths and 6 SS's lost. :)
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Same here, except for ty and feh who have greatly improved those odds as of the last few months, but yes if you checked my other chars, that would be right.
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I guess you're saying 10% is the magic number (1ss for every 10 deaths). Well Tralek has been pretty unlucky then...he's at 17% and that includes the use of two GP's. Hopefully this means that his number will gravitate toward the 10% number as he continues on :)
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I guess I'm part of the lower percentage where they have more SS than 10% of their total deaths! Tod has 59 deaths and 9 SS.
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A real analysis of this would also have to include death distribution by level. To average one SS lost per ten deaths, statistically (in a sample population larger than two, that is), you'd have to be dying more frequently in the lower levels, and less frequently in the upper levels, with the fulcrum resting on the actual 10% chance at level 10.
Neat observation, though!
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Kyle went from 1-14 (including the 'vacation' the Soul Mother took) before he lost his first...then from 14-21 he lost 7...(took SMD so he's got 8 left).
Guess that skews the average a bit...
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It's all the luck of the draw, there's a level 30+ character with 59 deaths that only lost 1 SS on the server.
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*knocks on PC desk just for luck*
Im not sure exactly how many deaths Shadowlef has had, its been way over 10 though.. If I had to take guess at the # ID say somewhere in like 15-20.
IM 10th level and have 0 SS lost so far....
Now If I could just have this luck transer over to our state's lottery...then I wouldnt care how many SS I lost, cause I would be able to play 24/7! ;)
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My Boon Loom Character have 74 deaths and 13 ss. He is lvl 29. Out of his last 6 deaths he got 4 ss.. So from being quite confiden't by only having 9 dt he got 4 more in just a couple of weeks..
So if there is an lvl 30+ on the server with only 1 ss lost it seems to be a little unfair... lol..
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Isn't there a character that has had no DT whatsoever and has diED a few times? :)
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Certainly not my new toon.
Dot has 13 deaths, and 3 tokens now :(
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Well, let's see...
Drexia has died 68 times and lost 7 SS (plus two that were reimbursed.
Pallena has died 29 times and lost 3 SS (plus two that are/will be reimbursed)
Gurnorhn has died 7 times and lost 0 SS
So, it looks like my characters are right in line with your theory :-)
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Chakar:
Death Count: 99
Tokens: 13
:rolleyes:
Can't check Görmungard, for he doesn't show up on LORE due to the o-umlaut (ö).
Unther:
Death Count: 30
Tokens: 4
And... *drums start rolling*
Jebediah:
Death Count: 3
Tokens: 0!
Instant Rimshot (http://www.instantrimshot.com)
Lucky old man...
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Rain was
122 deaths
7 token (+2 I got removed)
Lexor was
96 deaths
7 token (+1 i got removed)
Sil'via is
94 deaths
8 token (+1 got removed)
Brian was
100 deaths
10 token and permed.
Eslar is
22 deaths
1 token
Fehriel is
93 deaths
8 token
Xian shu is
3 deaths
0 token
Tyillaan is
18 deaths
1 token
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Wren Thendor
119 Deaths (over 51 months = .5 deaths a week for more then 4 years. As a fighter, you cant say that is NOT being careful)
13 SS lost (2 GPs used already for SS returns)
NOTE: I guess I should add that over the four plus years there has been more hours of playtime then I can count :P
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Isn't there a character that has had no DT whatsoever and has diED a few times? :)
LORE: brac'ar fireface (http://lore.layonara.com/brac%27ar%20fireface)
Brac used to have one, until Athus' ECDQ that returned strand to everyone so then he was back at 0.
So, 29 deaths, no SS lost.
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LORE: brac'ar fireface (http://lore.layonara.com/brac%27ar%20fireface)
Brac used to have one, until Athus' ECDQ that returned strand to everyone so then he was back at 0.
So, 29 deaths, no SS lost.
Pssst! It's cause he's the Loremaster! *shifty*
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Eli Silverthorn
17 Deaths
5 Soul Strands
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Eli Silverthorn
17 Deaths
5 Soul Strands
Ouch! see that just does not make sense :(
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Pssst! It's cause he's the Loremaster! *shifty*
If we were that kind of server, I would've long since left this place!
Most deaths were at a lower level so with small chance off SS loss, when Brac got higher in level, he held back more.
And nowadays I hardly have the time to play, so it won't change soon.
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Yeah Brac was like the Anti-Gotak LOL ;)
Yin and Yang
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An old character of mine...since deleted...lost 7 SS in 7 levels. I forget how many times he died...but since he lost 7 SS in 3 levels (you don't start losing them until 4th level I believe)...kinda blows the average up.
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Clarissa must be the unluckiest character on the server. 61 deaths and 11 SS losses.
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Clarissa must be the unluckiest character on the server. 61 deaths and 11 SS losses.
This is why chaotic PCs are more in tune with the Layo universe. Chaos rules, randomness is the law ;)
NOTE: The SM may not be chaotic but no one knows that yet or so the story goes ;)
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85 deaths and 12 SS losses for me but at a lower character level than Clarissa and subsequently a lower % chance of SS loss for each death. I can't do the exact math as to who wins (loses) b/w Ark and Clarissa, we can just call it even.
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We don’t make mistakes, we just have happy accidents.
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Clarissa must be the unluckiest character on the server. 61 deaths and 11 SS losses.
85 deaths and 12 SS losses for me but at a lower character level than Clarissa and subsequently a lower % chance of SS loss for each death. I can't do the exact math as to who wins (loses) b/w Ark and Clarissa, we can just call it even.
Some exact math:
Lv De Expe SS Var CVar
== == ==== == ===== =====
4 1 0.05 0 0.05 0.05
6 2 0.14 0 0.14 0.19
8 2 0.18 0 0.18 0.37
9 3 0.30 0 0.30 0.67
10 2 0.22 0 0.22 0.89
11 2 0.24 0 0.24 1.13
12 1 0.13 0 0.13 1.26
14 7 1.05 3 -1.95 -0.69
15 5 0.80 0 0.80 0.11
16 1 0.17 0 0.17 0.28
17 6 1.08 2 -0.92 -0.64
18 5 0.95 2 -1.05 -1.69
19 4 0.80 0 0.80 -0.89
20 10 2.10 2 0.10 -0.79
21 7 1.54 1 0.54 -0.25
22 1 0.23 0 0.23 -0.02
23 2 0.48 1 -0.52 -0.54
24 1 0.25 0 0.25 -0.29
25 1 0.26 0 0.26 -0.03
26 1 0.27 1 -0.73 -0.76
27 4 1.12 0 1.12 0.36
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68 12
Lv: level
De: deaths
Expe: expected soul strand loss, based on De * (Lv + 1) / 100
SS: actual soul strands lost
Var: variation between Expe and SS, viz Expe - SS, so if you have less soul strands than expected, this will be a negative number
CVar: Cumulative variation
Totals at the bottom
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Let's see...
Darthi
28 Deaths
3 DTs +2 (1 map bug/1 GP)
5/28 = 17.8%
(noname)
7 Deaths
1 DT
1/7 = 14.2%
Hmmm.... 10% seems a bit low. Either that, or all my PCs have *explicative deleted* luck. Rottie is better at 1/13, but only because almost all of his deaths were at very low levels.
Then there's...
Akul GodHunter
7 Deaths
0 DTs
0/7 = 0%.
Akul is still level 3 though. As a naked Layo wemic, he can hardly sneeze w/o dying. But the one saving grace is that if you always get killed, instead of killing the spawns, you won't gain levels, and will always be immortal!
;)
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Beli Level 23
129 Deaths
10 DTs (He can still put in for 3 GPs but has not)
12.9%
Buddy Level 15
27 Deaths
5 DTs
5.4%
Snezle Level 9
8 Deaths
0 DT
0%
Now if you add them all up it keeps with in the 10% suggested earlier.
164 Deaths
15 DTs
10.9%
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Masterjack,
I think your math is off a bit. Should be:
Beli: (10/129) 8%
Buddy: (5/27) 19%
Snezle: (0/8) 0%
Total: (15/164) 10%
So..your total still comes out exactly 10%...hmmm