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Title: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: jadewillow on April 15, 2010, 10:14:16 PM
Just curious, why no Champion of Rofirein? IG reason?
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: Alatriel on April 15, 2010, 10:26:30 PM
Not a GM... but I think it has to do with alignments?  Divine Champions I think have to be LG, and in order to be a Champion of your god, you have to have the same alignment... Rofirein is LN, so mechanically it doesn't work.  

Just my thoughts, I may be wrong *shrugs*
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: Acacea on April 15, 2010, 10:51:23 PM
The only mechanical requirements for a divine champion are a non-evil alignment, focus in a melee weapon, and a BAB minimum.
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: Alatriel on April 15, 2010, 10:58:26 PM
Ok... I got a question then.  If there were created a new class for Champion of Rofirein that was LN... would they smite chaos instead of smite evil?
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: Ravemore on April 16, 2010, 01:15:07 AM
We have Unholy Champions... Don't see why Rofirein should be deprived of them if alignment is not mechanically coded??

http://forums.layonara.com/layonara-server/258662-opening-up-unholy-champions-corath-pyrtechon-baraeon-caduz.html#post1557352
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: Acacea on April 16, 2010, 02:10:39 AM
Unholy Champion replaces Blackguard - any evil. Divine Champion replaces Champion of Torm. Any deity-specific variation is just a name change. It probably would have been more organized to have no deity specifications in the actual class, and left that to paper changes and other RP requirements.

Allowing Rofirein to use the existing class (whether copied as new name or merging into generic Divine Champions and Unholy Champions) is simply a matter of paperwork approvals for an existing mechanical possibility. Changing the class features require actual tweaking to the PrC beyond a copy-paste name change, so isn't really the same and would need to be commented on by someone that would have to actually make those changes, whatever the size of them...
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: ShiffDrgnhrt on April 16, 2010, 02:31:48 AM
Personally, I think the "Purple Dragon Knight" or something like it would better suit Rofirein.  Rofi is about law and order, Champions are about being that Great Warrior for Good (or Evil) and bring the smacketh down on your opposite.  Rofi Champs should be Champions of Order, and get some feats that reflect that.  Not the cookie cutter Champ of Toran/Vorax feats.
Title: Re: Champion of Rofirein
Post by: cbnicholson on April 16, 2010, 08:46:18 AM
There is an elite group that could be labeled Champions of Rofirein already - The Knights of the Wyrm (http://lore.layonara.com/Rofirein:%20Sects).  Of course they have no mechanical benefits, but from an RP sense the Knights are very much like the Champions of other faiths. ;)
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Ok... I got a question then.  If there were created a new class for  Champion of Rofirein that was LN... would they smite chaos instead of  smite evil?
 Although I do like this idea. Perhaps an alternative path mechanically for those that become Knights? :)
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