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General Discussion / Re: Power builds.

« on: December 15, 2006, 10:59:31 AM »

I think I'm not going to read these forums any more, they drive me insane.

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General Discussion / Re: Power builds.

« on: December 14, 2006, 10:47:24 PM »

Well in general Polak76, and this is just my opinion, but these forums need a lot more "This is what I do and it works well for me, you should try it" and a lot less "here's what i see you doing and it's wrong".  Your point is great as a suggestion but you phrased it like everybody else should be doing it and those who aren't are doing wrong.  

And if my knickers are knotted it's because this is hardly the only time i've seen it (considering i've travelled with chmmr as a cleric quite a few times, i feel slightly targeted by this thread itself too). For me that kind of thing is souring me on the layonara experience, it's not always a particularly friendly or helpful place, there is a lot of snapping and backbiting. Well not a LOT, but enough.

Sorry if I snapped at you in particular..! Your point is a good one, actually, but like i said...  oh well

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General Discussion / Re: Power builds.

« on: December 14, 2006, 07:47:34 PM »

I would never say don't do it, and if it makes it a better experience for you then i hope you do!

But there was the implication that if you don't role play towards the skills you will have later you are doing it wrong. It's the "you are doing it wrong" that I am objecting to..!

And I am objecting because while i like this world and most of the people i met there is a lot of "you are doing it wrong" over things that are vague, at best. i am not talking about the hard rules, i am talking about certain things that should be  matters of opinion, and this is a good example of that. how you play a cleric is another but i won't go back to that..

Remember some of us are still discovering along the way, and some don't know the game inside and out... I don't know what feats I will pick until I see the list and even then it's a coin toss usually... not every one has a "plan", not everyone making a choice you wouldn't do personally is "wrong"...

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General Discussion / Re: Power builds.

« on: December 14, 2006, 06:40:50 PM »

Polak76 - 12/14/2006  3:25 PM

This topic is always an interesting one.

Anyway rather than power building, how many characters on leveling-up actually pick feats or skills that they used prior to leveling.  eg, a rogue goes around hunting with a group of adventurers, levels up and takes hide, MS & Open Lock, yet at level 5 hasn't even used any of these skills yet.  Then to top it off he takes two weapon fighing at lvl 6 yet has used a bow since level 1.
How many of us do that?  How many of us actually develop to the environment?
I know alot of you will put your hand up and claim you do but I've only met a minority, an extreme minority that actually do.  From a point of view this can also be termed as powergaming.

No this is just going to far! I mean before you take two weapon fighting, it's useless to try to do it, and you will be no good in fighting at all. try it some against harmless enemies for role playing purposes, okay, but are you really going into a real fight (even with goblins) with weapons that simply will not hit?

Also a level 5 rogue has barely had a chance to pick a lock in layo, does that mean he's not allowed to put points in the skill? and then many skills don't work well until you get higher numbers, including hide, and a player only has to try and fail a few times to know that. in fact i think most people with hide skill practice it plenty so that they can know what to expect, it's one of those things you really don't want to have fail on you!

and also in the 2-weapon fighting case, why would you call that cheating when there are so many similar feats (the majority really i would say) like knockdown or rapid shot, that you couldn't practice if you wanted to? it's not like you can pretend to cleave until you have the feat, why say taking one that you can do (but in a way that is totally uneffective) has to be done that way?

finally, isn't there something to be said for someone training in their off hours? layo isn't supposed to represent all waking hours of your characters life and unless you're here 24/7 theres a lot of time unaccounted for, i would think a rogue would be practicing locks and a fighting would be using combat dummies or sparring or whatever...

honestly this kind of thing  is getting to me, there are so many ways for us to accuse each other of whatever, can we just sit back and enjoy the game a little? where does all this come from anyway, the need to tell everyone else they're doing it wrong?

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General Discussion / Re: Question on luring monster

« on: December 12, 2006, 04:55:37 PM »

Everyone seems to be forgetting rogues in all of this (and even rangers maybe..)

Isnt luring monsters away supposed to be part of their job? So say you have a big group of big dumb ogres. Of course if a big shiny paladin stands in the doorway two of them aren't going to break away without shouting for the others to follow. But a sneaky little halfling rogue would know how to create just enough of a little distraction, like throw a rock or make a little sound, or reveal himself for a second then dart away, so the two big dumb ogres wouldn't know what they saw or if they saw anything at all. In that case the ogres would not be likely to shouts for the others, they would go check it out for themselves.. Because after all it's probably just a small animal or something and they don't want to look like fools for shouting for the others to attack if it is...

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CNR Suggestions/Discussion / Re: poisonmaking question

« on: December 05, 2006, 04:56:27 PM »

If it's so illegal they really shouldn't put a poison making table in the middle of the craft hall should they?

(I played around with making it for a little while because I had some venom sacks but I got too embarassed when people passed by seeing me work there)

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NWN Ideas, Suggestions, Requests / Re: DM quest limits

« on: December 05, 2006, 04:34:38 PM »

I know theres no way to do this but I do kind of wish there was repercussion to signing up for a quest and not showing up for it. Like after a few times of not showing you are not allowed to sign up on quests again for a month, or if you have a habit of signing up and not showing you aren't allowed to roll the dice for an empty slot.. just anything to keep the list of names from being so long if half or more of them have no real intention of being there

I say this because when I see that long, long list of names every time a new quest shows up my impulse is simply not to bother (I'm also not such a good role player yet that i want to be a part of a group at the expense of someone else who might have added more to it, so i don't want to get in by a lucky roll of the dice or have people wishing someone else was there but i took her slot)  if most of these people are just signing up and not showing up and have a habit of continually doing this then how many more (probably newish like me) players are also being scared off?

Remember I said I know this isn't possible (or probably popular) so you don't have to list the millions of reasons why. I'm just venting.

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General Discussion / stuck

« on: November 23, 2006, 02:42:23 PM »

sorry to put this in 2 places but im stuck on barbarian island.. will try to wait a few more minutes before its time to face the relatives

also if i leave the game on will i freeze to death there?  (literally to death i mean, will the cold kill me?)