Chaos

[Jearick Hgar]

still a bit new to the server, i wanted to make a char who was very intuned with chaos. not destruction or the "evil" chaos. but chaos as an essence. i looked through the dieties for one that had nuetral chaos as a domain or teaching. the onyl chaos i coudl find were alla bout destroying every and anarchy.

i was thinking that one of the dieties should be handed the nuetral side of chaos as a domain. the essence. as in chaos is jsut all possibillities. good and bad. Change vs constant rather than just "YA CHAOS DESTROY CRAP!" that alot of people mistaken chaos for.

i thought i'd jsut throw this up to see what other's thought. =D

[Honora]

Turn your eyes to Mist.  Her dogma is change for change's sake, not wanton destruction.  Change is as often good as it is bad; she's Chaotic Neutral.

The handbook link is http://nwn.layonara.com/downloads/handbook/Layonara_Campaign_Handbook_2nd_Edition_Plain.pdf

Mist starts on page 204.  There are links to the gods in the chapter headings.

Good luck!

[Jearick Hgar]

reading over Mists, i just don't get the right feel. it says that her followers are people who have a great deal with the sea. IE: sailors, pirates, and sea elves. She also seems to follow the unpredictabillity of the weather rather than life and chaos itself.

just didn't feel right. more like a branch of chaos than chaos in general.

[lonnarin]

Perhaps Shadonite Tricksters?  of course they're more interested in pranking and stealing coinpurses than anything else.  If you want hearty drunken rage, hedonistic chaos, Xeen is a good choice.  She's a lot like Dionysis or Bacchus, totally fixed on revelry, lust and getting blitzed.  While the Deliarites are mostly goody goodies focusing on wealth and travel, they have been known to break out into pie-fights from time to time as well.

I think Shadon's probably the most chaotic.  i had a gnome cleric of his one time not to long ago named "Zeke" who ran around buck naked with an ogre baby mask on who'd hop out of the bushes and do a little dance for newcomers who didn't quite know what to think.  He's certainly the one to follow if you want to always be wired and doing things just for kicks and no true reason.

[Lilswanwillow]

you know, as long as your not a cleric, you can be neutral aligned to Corath.  Yes, he gets a bad rap for the whole undeath thing, but hes all about bringing death, chaos, and destruction to the world...

thier whole other thing is secrecy, so you can subtly bring chaos to the world also (some of us are currently doing so, in VERY neutral ways, since you can't start evil, and need alot of prereqs to get there)

[EdTheKet]

Jearick Hgar - 1/5/2007  1:38 AM  still a bit new to the server, i wanted to make a char who was very intuned with chaos. not destruction or the "evil" chaos. but chaos as an essence.

 Didn't you just start a new char?
  Anyway, chaos is the opposite of order, and in pure chaos, nothing exists anymore, as existance requires some kind of order. (note: I'm not talking D&D Chaos/Order here, so no Law/lawlesness, )
  Change, therefore, is also not chaos, it's moving from one state to the next, and each state has a certain order/chaos.
  So while chaos is not inherently good or evil, just like order isn't. The essence of chaos is the removal of any and all order, making existence impossible, hence the association with destruction.
  Or alternatively, chaos is the opposite of cosmos (in old Greek ideas). Where chaos is nothingness/void and cosmos is the 'universe'. If something wants this idea of chaos come to pass, then it would still mean the destruction of the cosmos, because there needs to be nothing left. (In which case, Pyrtechon comes close as a god of chaos).

[LynnJuniper]

"Without order nothing can exist. Without chaos nothing can evolve"

Not really helping, just something to think on. Thought it would be a nice finishing touch on what  Ed said.

[Laldiien]

I thought Ed's post was nicely worded and well stated. Then again, I'm a sucker for paragraphs and punctuation.

[Jearick Hgar]

EdTheKet - 1/8/2007  12:48 PM    

Jearick Hgar - 1/5/2007  1:38 AM  still a bit new to the server, i wanted to make a char who was very intuned with chaos. not destruction or the "evil" chaos. but chaos as an essence.

 Didn't you just start a new char?
  Anyway, chaos is the opposite of order, and in pure chaos, nothing exists anymore, as existance requires some kind of order. (note: I'm not talking D&D Chaos/Order here, so no Law/lawlesness, )
  Change, therefore, is also not chaos, it's moving from one state to the next, and each state has a certain order/chaos.
  So while chaos is not inherently good or evil, just like order isn't. The essence of chaos is the removal of any and all order, making existence impossible, hence the association with destruction.
  Or alternatively, chaos is the opposite of cosmos (in old Greek ideas). Where chaos is nothingness/void and cosmos is the 'universe'. If something wants this idea of chaos come to pass, then it would still mean the destruction of the cosmos, because there needs to be nothing left. (In which case, Pyrtechon comes close as a god of chaos).
   
   
   

 this was the concept i was thinking of before i made tath.  as for chaos, i se where your coming from, but i see chaos as the endless possibillity of every and anything. to me chaos is extreamly unpredictable that you can't even predict it to be unpredictable. sometimes in a situation true chaos will do something no one willt hink of and sometimes it willd o soemthign that everyone willt hink of, it has  no structure, no direction what so ever.  your arguement that chaos being the destruction of order is good, but i see it as a part of the whole cocnept of chaos, a branch of it. i mean the symbol for chaos is a single point with arrows going in ever direction from it, symbolyzing every possibillity.

[Eight-Bit]

The most chaotic character is one that isn't chaotic at all. The best way to play someone chaotic is through a very careful process of assuming what they should do, instead of acting off of your own impluses. You can be implusive with a lawful character, but impulsiveness with a chaotic character leads to stale and predictable RP.

My best advice? Start without a god and let the way people influence you determine just which God or Goddess to follow. It is usually the most entertaining way, instead of writing a character around a diety, you get to choose a diety around your character and his/her life and how others have played a part in it.