Lack of players

[Moon]

I've been playing nwn for a long time now. And I think that the main disadventage of this game is the lack of players. It is a pity that such an interesting, full of possibilies game is not being played. Instead of it people play World of Warcraft and Linage 2 ( ). For Example: my friend has World of Warcraft game box, he says that it is more interesting to play with 3000 players ulike in nwn with 15. And I certenly agree with him. Don't you think that Bioware must
increase the maximum player limit by making a new version?

[Weeblie]

I doubt that Bioware will make any attempt to completely rewrite (?) the source code for the server/client to support more players as NWN2 is soon comming out.

[Moon]

So I doubt it to

[Nibor21]

Not sure i agree with you.

I view WoW and NWN as too different things.

WoW is a game that allows you wander around and kill things with lots of other people - it is brutal warfare set in a fantasy realm.

NWN is merely a tool. It is a tool that aids the great game of imagination. In Layo we RP and we have to do so much more than just hack-n-slash. My guess is that the hack-n-slash players don't last long on Layo - they get bored too easily.

The people who often get the most out of layo are the ones who can spend a whole day in Hlint just chatting. They get to know the characters, the history and the very fabric of the world.

So just because both NWN and WoW have undead, orcs and men in armour, they are not necessarily comparable

[Dorganath]

Moon - 7/19/2006  3:30 AM  I've been playing nwn for a long time now. And I think that the main disadventage of this game is the lack of players. It is a pity that such an interesting, full of possibilies game is not being played. Instead of it people play World of Warcraft and Linage 2 ( ). For Example: my friend has World of Warcraft game box, he says that it is more interesting to play with 3000 players ulike in nwn with 15. And I certenly agree with him. Don't you think that Bioware must increase the maximum player limit by making a new version?

 NWN was not ever meant to be an MMO...they're completely different things, and the core of NWN simply cannot support that many players at one time.
  NWN was designed and intended to simulate the table-top "pen and paper" D&D experience but on a computer. That's why we got a toolset, DM client and such.
  Bioware is not making NWN2....Obsidian Entertainment is, and it will also have the same general focus as NWN1...smaller groups. If large groups is more your liking, then NWN is probably not the best game for you.

[darkstorme]

What Dorganath said, only moreso.  D&D was meant to emulate the majority of the Lord of the Rings, or at least the feel of the books - a small number of talented adventurers who set out to change the face of the world.  Yes, they have armies from time to time, but the majority of the story centers around individuals.

The WoW dynamic is that of the armies - though a touch unrealistic because of the sheer firepower available to both sides.  NWN is meant to simulate D&D - the interactions in a small group of players, interpersonal conflicts in addition to battle and storytelling.  If you're a fan of mob warfare, as Dorganath says - look elsewhere.

[Weeblie]

Dorganath - 7/19/2006  3:41 PM   NWN was designed and intended to simulate the table-top "pen and paper" D&D experience but on a computer.
 

 Imagine a 2000 person PnP session... Hehe!

[Lord of the Forest]

Weeblie - 7/19/2006  4:00 PM  

Dorganath - 7/19/2006  3:41 PM   NWN was designed and intended to simulate the table-top "pen and paper" D&D experience but on a computer.
 

 Imagine a 2000 person PnP session... Hehe!

 I don't want to imagine that! I prefer a small server, more and better RP than with 2000 players. Besides there are more than 40 players online sometimes.

[Falonthas]

been to a 2000 person pnp session its called gen con and even then its broken down into smaller groups

[darkstorme]

*During the 2000-person PnP session*

DM: Okay, you all have to roll spot checks.
*roar of thousands of dice hitting the table*

*** Later in the adventure ***

DM: Look, you ALL cannot fit into the 10 by 10 room.
*argument breaks out over who would be most important in the room*

*** Still later ***

DM: Okay, roll for initiative.

*** Much, MUCH later ***

DM: Okay, Tom, you won initiative.
Tom:  Alright!  I sneak attack!


And so it would continue....

[Lord of the Forest]

Well, smaller groups darkstorme. But even pnp groups like 8 is hard to DM, I know it cause I have to help our GM during the final battle. The whole battle will take more than 14 RL hrs so we suggest and it's too complex to do it with like 8 players so he needs my help with it. I for myself DM a 4-ish group and this is already hard sometimes, I would never do a group with more than 8 players pnp-wise. Heh, but I never was on a con before so I have no idea how big the groups will be there.
Just my 2 cents.

[darkstorme]

*laughs*  I'm well aware.  I was trying to be humourous.  Clearly, I failed.

[Weeblie]

AoE spells are definitely banned... Or, you might end up with 2000x2000 rolls for each round.