Author Topic: A new faith? (Read 1861 times)

Faldred · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2006, 11:26:59 AM »

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Lucinda?

Er... yeah. Something like that.

I actually chuckled out loud when I read that, don't know why...

Rowana · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2006, 12:23:51 PM »

Hmmm, interesting thought, sort of as an aside, what if the Sorcs got together as a faction of Lucinda? Poor down trodden Sorcs always getting snubbed by those uppity wizards!

darkstorme · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:07:44 AM »

Mind you, if a sorceror went around saying that his powers were granted by the "One True God", and it wasn't Lucinda, I could see one of two things happening. Either a) on a day with a perfectly clear sky, no chance of rain, a lightning bolt would smash down from the heavens and leave a little puddle of cooling glass where he'd stood moments before, or b) all his "divine powers" would suddenly vanish.

Acacea · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2006, 10:50:00 AM »

If every character that made use of the Weave was a Lucindite, even Corathites would be wearing blue.

Just because one is an arcane caster doesn't make one a worshipper of Lucinda. In fact, where is all the Aragen (or null) love from the wizards? Most would respect the Lady of course, and after a fashion most do, but many feel that being arcane means being Lucindite, which is not the case. All magic, divine or arcane, comes from the Weave... but you don't see priests of other faiths sitting at the feet of the Dawnwoven.

As for the downtrodden sorcerors in the fold of the Lady of Spells, there are at least two Grandmasters that are sorcerors, one of them leading the others as the Broken Rune.

SquareKnot · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2006, 11:55:48 AM »

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In fact, where is all the Aragen (or null) love from the wizards?

Yes, where is the Aragen love? Ifion the Aragenite actually has a prepared argument as to why mages, and anyone else, should follow Aragen rather than Lucinda. Aragen is unfriendly towards Lucinda, and Ifion has a character trait that makes him particularly dislike all things Lucinda. And that was before he was thrown out of the Tower in Spellgard.

If you're ever bored, ask him about Lucinda. Maybe he can change the statistics one person at a time:

Active Aragenites: 8
Active Lucindites: 44

Clerics of Aragen: 3
Clerics of Lucinda: 11

I'm not even going to mention the temple donations...

philhappy · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:51:35 PM »

Temple donations to Aragen are improving though.

Zelda1 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2006, 01:45:55 PM »

I agree with Acacea on this one. I'd say Lucinda is probably the most popular goddess (or at least one of them), but that doesn't make her the 'all mighty' and potential ruling goddess of Layo.
And if there WAS an all mighty god or goddess then how would that effect all the other deities and their followers? (It would obviously undermine all of them).So, would the all mighty god or goddess take charge of the other deities? How would this effect the other deities clerics? Would the followers and clericsof the 'all mighty' deity get special treatment or powers?
I don't think there should be a supreme ruler in Layo; it just seems like it would down the spirit of Layo because we have so many different deities to choose from and all having their own ideals. It basically does keep things equal between the deities. And yes, where is the Aragenite love?

Dorganath · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2006, 02:30:49 PM »

That concept's not really all that much different from Zeus/Jupiter from Earth mythologies or Ao from forgotten realms. The "boss" god didn't really undermine any of them as such. Each still had their individual portfolios...just that Zeus and Ao were like the Chairman of the Board.
Buuuuuuuut....such an entity doesn't exist in the Layonara pantheon, so as far as discovering such a deity and/or reviving a forgotten religion is not likely to happen at all, nor is such an entity likely to supplant the existing pantheon (short of a hostile overthrow)...and if such a thing did come to pass, it would take a looong time. What's more likely (but still not anything that will happen quickly) is that a deity may emerge, ascend or return (i.e. one of the dragon gods that left long ago), but don't hold your breath.

Wraithdur · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2006, 02:46:18 PM »

hmm.......*rubs chin in deep thought*......a new religion, a fake religion, created by chaotic forces to controll the unknowing masses and wielding them in to a weapon against order.
Fueled by Arcane powers (explaining any "clerical power"), perhaps something to do with the "revamped" sky.
a religion spreading like wildfire, engulfing Layonara.
each of it's temples preaching that "the sky has marked the coming of *insert name here*"
*looks smug after blurting a few barely cohearent scentences*
wait a minute!?
*reads over the last paragraph*
uh.......
*knows that this story sounds familiar but can't quite place it*
i'll get back to you on that

EventHorizon · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2006, 02:50:39 PM »

@Tazmanius

I am thinking, you should go for your own style, even if you aren't allowed a cleric with genuine divine powers, who is to say a bard/sorcerer or maybe even druid couldn't start out their own little cult? Even if you are likley not going to be inventing a new god that will join the existing pantheon overnight, you can probably have a lot of fun RPing an attempt to decieve, and profit from people who are having doubts about the gods.

Not every man woman and child in layonara are strong willed faithful clerics and paladins etc.
There should be a rather significant portion of tired people out there. The war against blood, the fall of pranzis... the toll on lives on all continents... except maybe voltrex... Have the gods abandoned the people?

Perhaps you would be allowed to start a cult and worship your golden olive tree or marble elephant. Or as you suggested some single entity.
I would say there are certainly some layonarans out there that just might be willing to try this "new age stuff"

Even though a self conjured divinity will never just appear, chances are some of the existing gods might try and claim the portion of worshipers... if they are many enough to be worth bothering with. As you might have noticed, not all of the gods are living on 7th street of haloishness.
And if not that, you could probably make money on the people that worship your entity...

Nook · « **Reply #30 on:** August 23, 2006, 06:20:53 PM »

I haven't read all the posts, but I'd like to kick in my ten cents worth.

Just for ref: In the original creation of D&D there were many gods but there was also AO, the "supreme creator" if you will. Me and a buddy of mine got on this subject and I chuckled. When he asked me what it was I found funny, I told him, "AO, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the one true God."
He was stunned with this response, "You know, I never even thought about that." And he had played since first edition was new.

As for my ten cents worth:
I could see where a new deity could come into play, but that would take much more time than you would normally think. A new god or goddess would have to get the word out. Then the would be diety would have to wait it out and see if more followers hit the band wagon. A god ain't got no power if he/she ain't got no followers.
Then once enough followers voiced themselves, then Leanther and the team would consider if the god/goddess would be allowed.

steverimmer · « **Reply #31 on:** August 26, 2006, 11:31:37 AM »

Heh...what was the name of that god in SOU? The one whose followers lived in the desert? The god who never actually did anything? It might be fun having a cleric who followed a similar sort of god, one who didn't actually exist. Of course the said cleric wouldn't be able to use any of his powers but his excuse could be something on the lines of the god was above all that or wanted us to sort out our own problems etc.

Might be fun especially if he was a evangelical type of fellow

Ne'er · « **Reply #32 on:** August 26, 2006, 02:00:13 PM »

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steverimmer - 8/26/2006 2:31 PM

what was the name of that god in SOU? The one whose followers lived in the desert? The god who never actually did anything? It might be fun having a cleric who followed a similar sort of god, one who didn't actually exist.

Said god in the desert was actually Ao, who is a FR god, but he isn't a standard god since he''s like the overgod of the entire FR pantheon. Although it would be interesting if someone claimed to have found something similar in Layo...

Variable · « **Reply #33 on:** August 26, 2006, 02:35:32 PM »

You know what we need? The patron god of Bards... Banjo the Clown!

crazedgoblin · « **Reply #34 on:** August 26, 2006, 02:48:38 PM »

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Variable - 8/26/2006 10:35 PM You know what we need? The patron god of Bards... Banjo the Clown!

maybe certain bards, im sure i know of one elderly bard who might not fit the banjo the clown dogma hehe

Variable · « **Reply #35 on:** August 26, 2006, 03:56:42 PM »

I'm a Reformed Banjoist myself. *nods twice*

Nook · « **Reply #36 on:** August 26, 2006, 06:53:51 PM »

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Variable - 8/26/2006 4:35 PM

You know what we need? The patron god of Bards... Banjo the Clown!

I've never laughed so hard in all my life...

ALL THOSE WHO KNOWS OF BANJO THE CLOWN...RAISE YOUR HAND
**raises both hands**

Wraithdur · « **Reply #37 on:** August 28, 2006, 04:25:39 AM »

i'm an orthadox Banjoist, his Wrath grows daily >:/

Stephen_Zuckerman · « **Reply #38 on:** August 28, 2006, 04:48:59 AM »

The Cult of Banjulhu...

And in his toybox in R'lyeah, dead Banjo lies dreaming...

Here's a question, though. Who would be the Bardic god of Layo? Ilsare?

Acacea · « **Reply #39 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:05:22 AM »

Most commonly, yes.