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SteveMaurer

Wanted - Vials of holy water
« on: September 05, 2009, 02:49:18 AM »
A note appears on the wall:
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I am seeking vials of holy water for use in creation of divination inks.   Prices negotiable,  but I have about 300 to 500 True to dedicate to this purpose, which can be donated either directly to you, or your church, as you see fit.   I also have a scroll of battletide, useless to me, that I am willing to pitch in.

Please respond with your offer.

- Lady Z.
 

Nehetsrev

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 08:34:48 AM »
*A response is written below one of the notes*
 
 
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Holy waters are created for the devoted of any faith by a blessing bestowed upon the waters by the faithful servant's god or goddess as a reward for their devotion in service. The act of 'selling' such blessed holy water in return for profit, or even 'pledges of donation' to a god or goddess, their temples, or their individual servants, only cheapens the value of such divine blessings. Perhaps the solution to your needs rests within your own soul, and you should seek to worship with more devotion whichever god or goddess you favor as your patron.
 
 However, having said that, it may be possible that I could provide you with blessed holy waters of my goddess Ilsare, under certain conditions. We should meet in person to discuss the possibility further. Should I find that Ilsare views you with favor, and should you convince me that your use of the holy waters of Her Inspriration would be in the working of something beautiful and full of passion for life, then I will pray on your behalf for Ilsare to bless some vials of water and imbue them with Her own passion and creativity.
 
 ~V. Jatyiram,
 Inspired Servant of Ilsare
 

Lord Dark

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 11:57:06 AM »
*Applejack cranes his neck to read the poster and the scribbles:*

I believe Prunilla would encourage the distributing of her holy water, definitely if they all go into cookies! How many are you asking for?

Applejack Sweetpea
 

SteveMaurer

Additional note tacked...
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 05:05:10 PM »
An additional note appears, tacked on underneath:

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Thank you for mentioning my neglect to place a specific price.  I was going to leave that up to those who were providing the blessed water, but I shall set a convenience price of 30 True per vial.  So 10 for 300, 20 for 600.

That will buy a lot of cookies.

The price drops to 20 True per vial if I must be subject to a sermon on how the Gods' blessings are too holy to ever be associated with mercantilism.   Not only do I believe that Deliar himself would disagree, but in addition, I proudly confess to presuming to judge the Gods.

Not only do I do so, I find some of them wanting.   Which reminds me: this offer does not extend to servants of the Red Dragon, the Mother of Darkness, or the Lord of Hate, regardless of their divine natures.

- Lady Z.
 

Lord Dark

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 05:37:23 PM »
Okay! I have some ready and will try to meet you somewhere. Holy water makes a great addition to molasses drop cookies, a drop or two should do it.

Applejack
 

SteveMaurer

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 07:09:15 PM »
Either I, or Tralek Rivermar, on whose behalf I am making these divination scrolls, can complete the transaction with you.   Tralek, in particular, would like to make your acquaintance.
 

Nehetsrev

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 07:40:32 PM »
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I find it interesting that one who believes it wise to question the worth of the gods themselves also thinks it too much trouble to have their own worth in the eyes of the very gods they seek divine waters from brought into question.  The appearance as well that you would much rather pay for divine gifts then have them bestowed upon you due to your own worthiness in thought and deed and thankfulness of spirit also brings your own character under scrutiny.  It's truly a pity, as I see it, since had you been more willing to allow yourself and your intended works involving the holy waters to be judged, I would have most likely given them to you freely.  As I once did for Tralek, whom you've mentioned here in other notes.
 
 While I do agree that some of the gods, such as Deliar, may delight in barter, trade and sale, it must also be pointed out that He upholds fair dealings that bring prosperity to all parties involved, rather than those deals where one is slighted and another makes out like a bandit.  I would think Prunilla, His wife, would also wish to be sure waters blessed by Her divine spirit were used in good and wholesome ways to bring comfort and joy to the world, rather than sold away to who knows what end without the slightest question of the motives of the buyer.
 
 Standing faithfully for Ilsare,
 
 ~V. Jatyiram
 
 

Link092

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 08:09:01 PM »
*Tacked up there is response by a grumbling man who is in a foul mood. There is an arrow drawn on the note to point out which note he is responding to*

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If I hear one more comment about Deliar advocating money worship, there will be hell to pay.

While he is a "merchant's god", He is the Merchant of Fate, The Lucky Wanderer, The Wind of Destiny. There is more to this world than bloody True to be earned, and wealth comes in many forms. Those merely in want of coin are in no way representative of the Deliarite faith. There is an advocacy for that which benefits not just one, but the community and family as a whole. Contribute positively to society... None of this greedy bilge that I hear others spouting about.



*now the note get's back on track..*

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Anyhow, if you want Holy Water, I suggest you go to the temple of your god, and start a dealing with the local priests. Give donation as "payment". And if you are the type that gives no fealty to any of the gods, then you have no business with their blessings. They are not things to be bought with coin.

~ Idoran Mossfeild


PS: How's -THAT- for a sermon?


*He grumbles something else, and walks away.*
 

Lord Dark

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 12:03:58 AM »
*Applejack climbs onto several boxes to respond to V. Jatyiram*

I don't think it's nice to tell people who they should or should not worship, what people should or should not sell and what people should or should not buy. Perhaps I didn't want to question someone's motives behind wanting holy water on a public poster? It's actually considerate not to bash on someone where everyone can see. That's maybe why I wanted to meet the lady. And I also don't think it's very nice to say that someone is scrutinized because they don't have blessed powers like you do.

*and then to Lady Z*

That's fine Lady Z, I wouldn't mind meeting Tralek too.

Applejack
 

Nehetsrev

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2009, 12:30:39 AM »
*pens another response*
 
 
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Applejack, while I appreciate your sentiments, I feel I must explain for your own understanding my motives which are wholely pure.  As a servant of my Goddess Ilsare, I am charged to faithfully do Her work in this world, and to handle the blessings she bestows upon me and through me in a responsible manner, with wisdom and prudence.  If I do not take the time to scrutinize those who would call upon Ilsare's blessings through me, then I am not taking my calling and service to Her seriously, and could quite possibly do damage to Her good name in this world through my carelessness.  So yes, I do think it wise to ask questions.
 
 If you read back to my first note written here you will find I did ask to meet this person face to face to discuss her motives and evaluate her character in the eyes of my Goddess and in my own good judgement.  It was she who then made statements against the gods in general, and expressed sentiments that she didn't wish to hear sermons or be judged worthy by one serving their god, but that she would rather treat the blessings she seeks like some commodity to be bought and sold.  Blessings that indeed, as stated by Mister Mossfield, she has no right to ask for if she is unwilling to devote herself to worship of a god or goddess.  If she is so devoted to denying the gods, then she should find a way to make her divination inks without the use of their holy waters.
 
 Perhaps you should take some time to pray to your own diety, Prunilla, and make sure your heart is right with Her.  Pray as well to ask if She truly supports this person who would cheapen Her gifts with mere coin and then with the other side of her mouth devalue Prunilla's godliness.  It would be a shame that Prunilla might choose to withdraw her blessings from you if you should choose a few coins over Her.
 
 Empassioned by Ilsare and in Her service,
 
 ~V. Jatyiram
 
 

SteveMaurer

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 04:57:49 PM »
A note is posted below all the others:

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To those it does concern:

This is a market board, not a collegiate course in philosophical debate offered by the Tower Academy.   Never the less, since deliberate misrepresentation has been made about my statements, I find that I must waste time here to correct the record.

Firstly, I did not make "statements against the gods in general".  I merely confessed the simple fact that I presumed to judge them.    This is hardly controversial.  Any cleric with a modicum of self-knowledge would admit the same.   For does one not devote oneself, only after one has judged all the gods, and decided that one's chosen is the best?

Secondly, while I do not swear fealty to any god, and have direct quarrel with a few, I do not begrudge others that path.  Pray do not begrudge me mine.

Thirdly, sabotage of another's business for no benefit other than the pleasure of seeing another fail, is a vice I am all too familiar with already.  It is especially odd to see it in one who pretends to the belief that they are, and serve a god of, "good".

Finally, as to the above, I have a theory as to why I have been subjected to this behavior: in response to my initial inquiry, I was given two counter-offers.   The first, acceptance of coin, which can be used to many holy purposes (not the least of which is the protection of a young priest, which all gods need if their church is to prosper).   The second was for me to be subject to judgment by Illsare and her cleric, sermon as to why any offer of coin as recompense is an insult to hers, the best of all possible gods, all accompanied by a heaping dollop of arrogant sanctimony.    Naturally enough, though the first offer was injurious to my purse, the second was injurious to my temper and sanity, so I chose the former.

Like a jilted lover however, this ceased to be a matter of mere consideration for the Illsarian, who then presumed to speak not only for her Lady, but for all the gods, in declaring that gold is too filthy for churches to even consider as recompense (which must be news to the Illsarian church in Hlint, given how much my purchase of healing potions from them have lightened my purse over the last few years).

Never the less, I take the admonition to respect the gods seriously, and so remind myself to drop a few coin into the coffers of Aragen, the Lord of Logic, who Illsare hates.   With any bit of luck, he may be able to inject a bit of perspective into this illogical priestess, who not only bothers my business, but embarrasses my sex.
 

Lance Stargazer

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 05:29:20 PM »
*Argos looks at the posters with a blank face, he tilts his head looking all the answers, he simple shakes his head and put the note he had on his own hand away from the poster *

My. I knew that it was a bad idea for starters , too trouble some, and my look who is involved, this has become a bickering and its not like good to make even more problem on this.

Holy water, blessings are supposed to bring prosperity and order, and this has become a seed of chaos, There is no way I contribute to spread this.

*He start to walk towards the docks humming a sweet song*
 

Lord Dark

Re: Wanted - Vials of holy water
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 07:28:02 PM »
*Applejack pens in small writing.*

Your other ten vials have been made and are waiting for you, send me a message when you're in town again.

-Applejack
 

 

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