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cappyra

RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2005, 10:39:00 am »
Unfortunately...  there are close minded people who would believe this loon...  

That cartoon was unbelievable.  LOL...  I also found it interesting that it was all women in the strip that were influenced by D&D. . . and it was men saving the girl from evil.  I wonder what he is really trying to say...   It totally contradicts his list of suicide victums who were all male. . .

Seems like I remember something in history about burning books...  now where was that?

Of course you have to give him props... if anyone knows about brainwashing...  it's religious fanatics =P
The all time King of brainwashing =P

 

cappyra

RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2005, 10:50:00 am »
I just remembered something LOL! =D  I was listening to the radio a while back... some morning talk show...  I can't remember... it might have been Elliot in the Morning DC101... and they were talking about The Way of the Master.

ROFL  You have got to check this out.  Kirk Cameron..  you remember... "Growing Pains"?  He has a religious website now at:

http://wayofthemaster.com/

Seriously... you have to check this... LOL  it's even interactive =D

If you are a Christian you can click YES and go to a page that tells you how to save your friends and family from the burning pit hell...   ummm by buying his tape library...

If you are not a Christian you can click NO and go to a page that tells you how to save yourself from hell...   ummm by buying his tape library...

The site is so wholesome and cheesy it makes the Ozmonds seem like the Ozbornes

LOL  I remember showing this to my wifey and she was like... Is this a joke?  LOL and what makes it funny... is that it isn't a joke LOL!!!

Enjoy!
 

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RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2005, 10:59:00 am »
Blast! He's onto my evil plan to seduce the world into my evil cult through the power of D&D! And he knows my only weakness is Jesus!

I'll get you next time Schnoebelen! Neeeeext Tiiiiiime!
 

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RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2005, 03:26:00 pm »
So. . . if the rituals are real. . . all I have to do is sit down with my PHB for the next eight hours and memorize the spell entry for Finger of Death and I can kill someone by reciting it?  Sweet!
 

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RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2005, 08:01:00 pm »

PsychicToaster, I'm afraid it's not that simple.

I mean don't forget the spellcomponent. :)

I mean people try it and it fails and stop believing in it, don't they realize they should have taken the feat eschew materials first? :D
 

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RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2005, 08:44:00 pm »
Oh man.... I *had* to pick Mouse Click Finesse didn't I?

 

Ne'er

RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2005, 01:02:00 pm »
"D&D is not like chess or Monopoly. It is a game that engages the whole person at deep levels, and it can last months if well-played."

I have played games of monopoly that took months. Is that evil too? Does that mean that I am being brainwashed into becoming a real estate tycoon?

And I don't know about you guys, the D&D games that I have played never got all that serious. We kind of sit around, make fun of each other, and eat a lot of snacks. That must be why it's so fun!
 

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RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2005, 04:03:00 am »
Go to this link:

http://killermookie.org/node/119

I laughed so hard the first time I heard this. The good thing is this is *supposed* to be a joke.

 

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    RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
    « Reply #28 on: August 05, 2005, 02:28:00 pm »
    Found some interesting stuff about this at wikipedia.org:

    "Beyond lawsuits, greater controversies have surrounded D&D due to allegations of its connections to devil worship, as well as claims that RPGs in general lead to suicide. These allegations were popularized in a novel called Mazes and Monsters by Rona Jaffe. The book was turned into a TV movie featuring a young Tom Hanks in the key role of a mentally unstable collegian who experiences psychotic episodes and loses himself in the game world. It should be noted that the allegations in the book and film were based on faulty interpretation of William Dear's 1979 investigation. Dear, a private investigator, searched for a wealthy college student, James Dallas Egbert III. While the search proved successful, the brilliant and depressed boy committed suicide after a quarrel with his wealthy, domineering father. Dear later wrote The Dungeon Master: The Disappearance of James Dallas Egbert III [5] written from case notes. The author described his own experiences learning D&D, as a key to understanding Egbert's withdrawal from reality. Dear also makes it implicitly clear that Egbert's suicide had more to do with family troubles than with roleplaying games. [6]

    "One of the big names in the anti-D&D movement was Patricia Pulling. Pulling founded Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons (BADD), a one-person organization, after her son (Irving "Bink" Pulling) committed suicide which she believed was from playing the famous RPG Dungeons & Dragons. Pulling wrote Interviewing Techniques For Adolescents (1988), a primer for police officers who are dealing with crimes that involve role-playing games. Michael A. Stackpole (himself a writer and designer of role-playing games) wrote The Pulling Report [7] in 1990 debunking Pulling's claims.

    "Chick Publications produced a comic book tract called "Dark Dungeons"[8] about a girl who got involved in witchcraft through a role-playing game, and cast a spell on her father to make him buy her books and miniatures.

    "Such negative portrayals of role-players, ironically, may have originated from an initial inability of some outside observers to properly differentiate between reality and the immersive role-playing aspects of game play. Misperception has been the major prejudice that role-players have had to face over the years. Some religious individuals consider roleplaying games immoral or irreligious for multiple reasons, most commonly due to game uses of magic, spells, the worship of pagan gods, the glorification of violence, and the use of supernatural powers (whose game uses are not always distinguished from reality by observers). Such accusations continued well beyond the 1980s and into the 1990s. There have been numerous studies (including several from within the RPG industry) exploring this allegation that have generally concluded that not only does D&D not seem to encourage suicide, but players of this kind of game are in fact less prone to take their own lives. For example, studies conducted by Michael Stackpole show that the suicide rate is actually lower among gamers than non-gamers.

    "Often this connection is pointed out when young people are indicted for crimes, such as a 2001 murder of Robert M. Schwartz, a prominent scientist in Loudoun County, Virginia. The connection was also made during the investigation of the Stephanie Crowe murder in San Diego, where Stephanie's teenage brother and two friends were accused of the killing because prosecutors said that the killing reflected a brother's hatred of his sister and the three boys' interest in role-playing fantasy games. The three youths maintain they are innocent and a transient named Richard Tuite was later arrested, charged, and convicted of manslaughter. [9]

    "The Swedish National Board for Youth Affairs has published a report on "Roleplaying as a Hobby." The report describes roleplaying as a stimulating hobby that promotes creativity. [10]"

     

    Diamondedge

    RE: A guy named William Schnoebelen ranting about the evil that
    « Reply #29 on: August 05, 2005, 02:44:00 pm »
    Damn rights.
     

     

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