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Falreign:
It states that Sea Elf is a playable race here -- LORE: Races of Layonara

From my experience in the passed two months it appears that Sea Elves are unplayable. Not sure if it is a world issue or a Lore issue, I'll let you guys decide.

Thanks.

INKachu:
I wish I was that first sea elf girl submission, who got in as a regular dolphin surfing beautiful beach-babe sea elf, making her days by dating other surfers and didn't have to join the hunt. xD

Script Wrecked:

--- Quote from: Falreign ---It states that Sea Elf is a playable race here -- LORE: Races of Layonara

From my experience in the passed two months it appears that Sea Elves are unplayable. Not sure if it is a world issue or a Lore issue, I'll let you guys decide.

Thanks.
--- End quote ---


I believe you are referring to the length of time required to get your character approved.

Yes, it can be (is) irksome when things drag on and on (six weeks by the count), and the flush of excitement that originally shrouded the idea when it first blossomed has all but evaporated; alas, for the thrill of shiny wrapped presents under the Christmas tree. And perhaps this has been further magnified because this is part of a group submission and there are three of you hanging by tender hooks waiting, waiting for this to go through.

The payout to this cost of multiple iterations is that by the end of it, both you and the GMs will have a much more distinct idea of who these characters are. I often think it is almost a shame when character submissions get approved quickly. From one point of view, it means the character (at least initially) has not tested any boundaries of character-dom.

Another thing to bear in mind is that however good your submission is, however well written it may be, is that not all stories fit Layonara. Layonara is a certain thing; it is a much defined by what it is not as by what it is. Otherwise, it would be just an amorphous blob, with no structure, with no flavour.  This means that there are some things that are not Layonara.

Sea elves are a specific thing to Layonara. As a subrace, they are much more restricted in what they are in order to give them a significant definition, a significant differential to the experience of their base race. Otherwise, they might as well just be blue skinned elves with a penchant for swimming. *shrugs* What's that?

This means that the range of possibilities of what they are is much more restricted. This may mean that the original idea that so inspired you may have to be refined in order to fit; this is what the Character Approvers are working with you to accomplish. However, it is possible that no amount of refinement will make the story fit. Alas, this is unavoidable when there are creative minds about.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Script Wrecked.

lonnarin:
What I don't get is how tridents and knives are allowed as some of the only weapons, but not unarmed monk specialty.  Where are all these trident and knife producing, underwater forges and how are they more rare than unarmed fighting monastic traditions for a race where all alignments are open?

Why are non-elf druids not allowed to pick up bows when absolutely none of the oaths are broken?  What does it matter if a Wemic picks up a greataxe?  Are sea elf babies who wash up near a monastary of Vorax summarily butchered and eaten 100.100.100% of the time?  This is both fantasy and fiction, after all.  Let the kids create.  It won't kill anybody.

Rowana:

--- Quote from: Script Wrecked ---I believe you are referring to the length of time required to get your character approved.

Yes, it can be (is) irksome when things drag on and on (six weeks by the count), and the flush of excitement that originally shrouded the idea when it first blossomed has all but evaporated; alas, for the thrill of shiny wrapped presents under the Christmas tree. And perhaps this has been further magnified because this is part of a group submission and there are three of you hanging by tender hooks waiting, waiting for this to go through.

The payout to this cost of multiple iterations is that by the end of it, both you and the GMs will have a much more distinct idea of who these characters are. I often think it is almost a shame when character submissions get approved quickly. From one point of view, it means the character (at least initially) has not tested any boundaries of character-dom.

Another thing to bear in mind is that however good your submission is, however well written it may be, is that not all stories fit Layonara. Layonara is a certain thing; it is a much defined by what it is not as by what it is. Otherwise, it would be just an amorphous blob, with no structure, with no flavour.  This means that there are some things that are not Layonara.

Sea elves are a specific thing to Layonara. As a subrace, they are much more restricted in what they are in order to give them a significant definition, a significant differential to the experience of their base race. Otherwise, they might as well just be blue skinned elves with a penchant for swimming. *shrugs* What's that?

This means that the range of possibilities of what they are is much more restricted. This may mean that the original idea that so inspired you may have to be refined in order to fit; this is what the Character Approvers are working with you to accomplish. However, it is possible that no amount of refinement will make the story fit. Alas, this is unavoidable when there are creative minds about.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Script Wrecked.
--- End quote ---

I just wanted to add on to this courteous and wise advice from Script Wrecked, a condition that was also told to you folks (along with the whole server) that our Loremaster as away for several weeks during the time that your submission was in process. There is much of what you submitted that had to be (and still is being) hashed out with the Loremaster.

It is not the habit of the CA team or the GM staff in general to ignore any application for any reason, to lead a player on to some falsely offered future or just lie out right. The Loremaster is catching up bit by bit, but like the rest of the various teams (including the CA staff) he is a volunteer and thus only has so many hours in the day to contribute to the world. He has to wade back through all of his work that piled up over the 3 or so weeks he was gone. I know that he has begun to take a look at these applications with us and we are working through the issues that have been presented by your applications.

Regards,
~row

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