My problem with invisibility

[Dorganath]

Good point!  Kinda like Phantasmal Force/Killer produces sounds as part of the illusion.

[Frendh]

A true illusion deceives all fives senses.
A perfect illusion becomes reality.

[freemen2]

Ok luv, going to test it out, scientifically wise, but if I get killed, Lal is getting a spanking by Path :p

[Talan Va'lash]

Excerpt from the Invisibility spell description:

"...Of course, the subject is not magically silenced, and certain other conditions can render the recipient detectable (such as stepping in a puddle.)"

-3.5 player handbook p. 245



Edit: btw path, they can still spot you using spot/listen skills, but their chance of spotting you will not increase if they have see invisibility active.

[Giganos]

I've actually seen how nerfing true seeing to not see sneaked creatures works in practice.

I used to believe it was a good idea, now I'm not so sure. It leads to an ever increasing sneak/spot move silent/listen arms race that drags the players into it wether or not they can move silently.

Characters already get away with a lot when it comes to move silent and hide in shadows.

True Seeing is one factor in balancing this leniency of the game engine.