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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 07:48:00 am »
sorry Leanthar it should have been "Sail and magic port" I am taking into acount teleports.

"Or you can go to a friends house and port to Prantz, which takes maybe 10-15 minutes counting finding the friend."
I will have to try that I asumed it was meta gaming so have never done it uless envited throw RP to use some ones teleport.
I could do a TELL to some one in West or centrail and ask them by they would have to come to me with the key to there house.

We can drop this if youy like I dont wont to take your time up on stuped stuff if im being dumb here.



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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 06:56:04 am »
Leanthar yep over the year + I have been on your (by the way grate serever) I have posted about this more than once.
I think I have it now, as meny say DMQ's help a lot then for thos that can not "book" time ahead its real hard
we have the hard slog over the wall. (note if V3 helps with this then grate news there) I did take back the "Thats the wall its rock solid and there is no way past" What I should call it is "THE HILL" some can zip passed as there life can be moved around layo, but for thows whos
have to move layo around there life its a hard long uphill clime It can be done its just long and very hard.

SPREADING out would be good if only every one did it but they dont, Layo is Hlint and west centric, as has been said on this threed even
high levels come back, they may have there PCs say they dont like Hlint but every one comes back,

I have done trips to Centra, I get 2 hours off RL, I log on, I spend 1/2 rping a group to head out to Central we start the walk, sail port there, we head into the wilds, My times up I log, NExt time on in im on Central alone and if in a hard place looking at death as a fast way back to hlint. I head back to hlint 2 hours RT later I log off to do the hole thing again. There is no where on Central where groups log in and stay (th level PCs just dont do that, every one heads to Hlint.

I have gaming time its just I can not Book that Gamming time and One phone call and all that times gone as a rush off to work.


The best news is that in V3 The 7th to 9th level thing will be looked at, thats all I have been saying about levels.
Booking CDQs well thats another matter and that has been sorted in a feel a very good RP way.

Seeing how the HIll,hum,bump,wall etc is now ecnolaged to be there and is being looked at in V3 I will not rase this matter again.

And once again thank you for letting my 1st Online world be users, it is the only one I play and its to my knolage the best around.

Nexus7


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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 04:52:21 am »
Will do, but I also feel I made a valid point here, there is a 3ed way which is take down your ex and put the time you have into RP and CDT,
aragwen (DM) made a go point on DMs not seeing PR in game if thay are not there thats where went wrong, For each hour of RP
in game I should have spent the next wrighting up in my CDT for Mille means less playing time but gets her where I would like her to be.

Also there is a wall, bump, blip call it what you will from 7th to 10th as has been pointed out here,
the only thing that counters it is TIME played in game, It could be lots of time in the short turm or
small bit of time over mouths but it can be gottem over. Booking time for guests helps aut there has to be a rot for thows
like me who can not book time, and lets be clear on this I have time just can not book it.

I know that each DM like players has there own point of view on this and thats a good thing, you need many points of view to make a team strong.
This is one instance where many hands make light work.

But also understand I was looking at a CDQ or nothing post last night which would crush any one after so much work and time.

Thanks once again.



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General Discussion / Re: Help with stories for The Dragon's Whisper
« on: October 12, 2006, 04:20:31 am »
Mille has the odd titbit but will try to get more

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General Discussion / RE: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 03:51:49 am »
"The reason things need to be scheduled is so people know when to show up."
Im not saying other wise, but its a probelm when you can not book your time for CDQ.

"Also, you don't need to be high level to join parties. Those that make an RP contribution and especially those that are charismatic and likable can usually implant themselves in any group."
also true but it has been comented on here about the lack of lower level quest, this may have changed but when you can not book time what matter so it make.

"If you are getting angry at this discussion perhaps you should step away for some time for other reasons."
I am still at Fustration when I get to anger I will do just that.

NEWS UP DATE

http://www.layonaraonline.com/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=30802&posts=7&start=1

Thats A grate Idear, If the level of CDT is low then by droping some EXp staying at 8th and then doing some good RP and CDT logs.
The lock out of CDQs for thow that can not book time can be over come and the wall comes down. I like it its simpal and lets me RP my why out of this.

Deep breath, yep thats the way past this

Thanks aragwen and also stormspirit for there grate idears how to get past this
and to all the DMs and all who posted here,

I will take it back you can get past The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA of Booking CDQ thinks to some clear thinking.

Deep bearth and realix
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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 03:11:37 am »
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LordCove - 10/12/2006  2:55 AM

I've actually noticed that spending 2-3 hours adventuring with friends can get you the equivalent of 2-3 hours worth of GM time....depending on where you go of course.


yep it dos but it dos not get you a CDQ when you can not book time sad but true.

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General Discussion / RE: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 03:03:10 am »
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Pankoki - 10/12/2006  2:47 AM    With the XP you have accumulated with your other five characters and taking your ECL into account your main character would be over level 11.
  You cannot expect to have six characters and level up steadily with all of them with limited playtime. Only those with plenty of time can even attempt that feat and even then it takes time. It requires patience to get over the wall, but it does not require for you to exclusively just go to DM quests. There is no big hidden secret conspiracy. It's simply being there with groups and slowly increasing your XP through crafting, sporadic quests, quests, and/or adventuring.  
 Wrong, thats not what im saying I saying thats what I tryed with my 1st PC spugly and hit the GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA also after larning what Layo was I was new to online gamming and layo is my only server. I made Max then mille then rose each let me run around the Solos and RP the NONE booked time that is my play time,   BUT I found Mille the best PC Meny here make two or more befor they find that PC they realy like to play, MIlle is mine But for her to go the way I wont her to I needed to get a CDQ  are the GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA means I must book that time but I can not book time QED dead PC.  And Spugly well he lost all and I mean all his fellows to, Death, Lost gamers, or they levels out of quest reach,   NO one below level 10 need aplay, and remeber taging with high level PCS is chating if your farming for XP.    Ayla died and so he went home, sorry but Im not going to shoue horn RP into a PC just to make levels, Adding up all my PCs EX will not make him 11th becosue  he needed to get thows from doing this out side Hlint whare as the others did the same quests over and obver.   And one level 7 heading out solo to get Ex has a very lonly time and dies real fast.  who going to help you get to your grave stone when you on your own and miles from Hlint.  So your wrong sorry adding up all my EX dos not give me livel 11, just lots of the same quests which where done with fun and good RP.

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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 02:54:13 am »
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trillex - 10/12/2006  12:37 AM

I've been here for a very long time, playing on and off and have only reached level 9 with one character, who then was recreated and haven't gotten any further than level 7. So I got 2 level 7, 1 level 5 and 1 level 3 and I also feel that there is a huge and almost impassable gap between 7 and 9. But, I did have fun with all of those characters and I will, slowly but steadily, get there.

All in all, every hour used on this server has almost always been a joy but my timezone and limited time right now, makes it a bit hard to do anything. :)


Ye im the same I play all to times of day not just GMT and see a lot of the player who come one when layo has about 6 or 7 in.

Im not saying RP is not fun, why do you think i have 4 PCs all every difarent all Disened as RP PCs not Munkins.

Spugly, Softharted half Gaint who still morns Aylas death.
Max, lost plaintuched who found a key in Sigil and end up in a war, his Brain Box all a mudell andready for the dustys
Mille Mooneyes: Map maker and news hound for Bee that most respected of Brownis, How many groups have head out with Mille and had them selfs saved by here
healing.
Rosa, The mad Punk Monk who hates all god

So I do RP and Im not a XP bunny its just that to get more from layo you have to book RL time which I just can not do, the and thows who have posted here have said with out that then your stuck.

Thats the wall its big huge and fixed, there is no way around the BOOKED TIME = LEVELS

Thats why I giving up I just flat out fustrated at the lack of help for thows like me, time and again I have seen posts which say the same thing.
RP yes its good but when you stuck at the same level seeing your RP mates zooming off its just gets disartaning and fustrating.

you brake on the GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA

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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 02:21:28 am »
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Rayenoir - 10/12/2006  12:13 AM

If I'm not mistaken, all of your characters save your most recent have been special subraces.  Your most recent character was only played up to level 5 as it is.  Given that half-giants have an LA of +3, tieflings +2, and brownies +2 as well, you're effectively playing characters that are receiving XP as though level 10 or higher.  That is a documented slowdown point, so I'm not really sure why you're so frustrated.  Perhaps if you had stuck to one or two characters you would not have run into the wall you seem convinced is in place to frustrate those who don't have a lot of time to invest in the game.  As with everything, more time means more returns.  It's simply how things are.
It's not all about level.  Make some friends and go somewhere with them.  It's surprising just how much even a small group of similarly-levelled characters can manage, particularly when those characters have level adjustments to be more powerful than other characters of a given level.
This isn't your first time having these frustrations.  Back in July, I seem to recall a post similar to this one.  Did you forget when you came back what had frustrated you before?  If the "wall" is there, then it's because you're still approaching it the wrong way.


Yes i did last time and the wall is still there, yes you can RP at any level but there is only so many time you can go into the red mains show new players around and
talk about the war.

Yes I have subraces, I new I would have the XP hit on this BUT! as layo seem to have players who all like playing subs to the pint Landuer has to shoot the door
to stop players taking them im not any amy means unusahle. As for not playing wight are you saying there "IS!" a way to get levels with spiradic playing times.
Becosue you knwo its chating to tell me, so how did you find it if there is a way.

Also I do put the time in its just that I can not make FIXED times, 4 or 8 hours here i have done I just can not book the time.

If I had a DM who seeing me in game TELLs me hay your on cool lets do that CDQ then I can say yep I have 4 hours here, But layo is about BOOKED TIME
and that I just can not do, I have got 6 count them 6 PCS to levels 6 to 10, thats becosue I can do that in game by RPsing quests with NONE BOOKED Time

The wall is the NOW YOU MUST BOOK TIME FOR QUESTS and that where layo ends for me.
So I make a new PC and RP my guys out, ask the players about MAX, Mille and Spugly all much loved all RPed and all ingame when I can make it.


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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 12, 2006, 02:12:46 am »
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Blackguy - 10/12/2006  12:09 AM

Nobody have ever said the wall isnt there. But your saying its completely impossible to get past, and thats not true. But DM quest help alot, and if you can't commit to any of those, at -all-, then there is not much hope. But I have to say, there is alot of low level quests these days, more than ever, and they are timed at alot of diffrent times, and diffrent days, so theres is bound to be one that fit to your schedule.


I saying the WALL is the Time needed to get above level 9
see my point what your saying is just what I said

"But DM quest help alot, and if you can't commit to any of those, at -all-, then there is not much hope."

Thats the wall its rock solid and there is no way past, booking a CDQ is out as well as if I can not comit to DMQs then, well you see my point.

There is no way past the "get a Layo life" or its low levels for all time.

And look I have been on here over a year, playing the times I can, when I have time I drop in. I dont do DMQs becouse I can not garentee the phone will not go and then I have to log. I have tryed to book 3 CDQs but as you book weeks in advance I dont even know if I will be un the UK from day to day so thats out.

The wall is there, it kills play for players like me there is and never will be a Level tree for us, Thows that can not commit hard time day in day out.
You know this so why say you can get past it you can not.


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General Discussion / Re: The GRATE WALL OF LAYONARA
« on: October 11, 2006, 11:53:28 pm »
for a time yes but in the end you it the Lyoa wall very hard, that tends to take a lot of the fun out of it.
yes you should say "its ok RPing at 7th level for ever is all the fun I need" but have you ever seen any one do that.
No becous to see more of the layo world your need to clime that level lader, ask a DM in game "I keep getting deaded when I go there" you will get
"well get stronger and you be a better fighter/mage etc" add to the High level players wondaring into Hling going
"O how I hate this place, its nothing like the cool place we hand out at"

But lets face it the wall is there, its real so lets stop pretending its not.


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General Discussion / Re: I'm New
« on: October 11, 2006, 01:38:29 pm »
as many ahve said welcome

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General Discussion / Re: Bumblebee bashing
« on: October 11, 2006, 10:19:14 am »
PnP As Mille is out of play for the time bing I will not be abel to carry on with the News stuff and selling, so this kind of helps me.
When Bees back will do a cach up on what we talked about in game

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General Discussion / Re: Wanted: Brownie adventurers
« on: October 11, 2006, 10:17:38 am »
Sorry All Mille is out of play untill here SD thing is sorted, I can not let her back untill then sorry.
see you all as soon as I can

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Just for Fun / Re: Count to ten thousand. Go!
« on: October 11, 2006, 05:53:13 am »
one no sorry 13 Dooowwww

I mean 50 some thing


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General Discussion / Re: Bumblebee bashing
« on: October 11, 2006, 02:44:14 am »
PnP if Capps comming back then Ill get Spugly to drop in and see him, This is some back story to what spuglys been up to now the war is over.

Q for DMS DO war evts get a penshain from the King?

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General Discussion / Re: Wanted: Brownie adventurers
« on: October 08, 2006, 11:50:49 pm »
Let me so I can get Mille there, shame I was working :o(

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General Discussion / Re: Points of Interest
« on: October 08, 2006, 04:33:04 pm »
This is realy good, its fill in whats been missing some thing to pull players out if Hlint early one and keep them looking around
grate garte idear loveit

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General Discussion / Re: Help: Millie Stuck on a Hill!
« on: October 08, 2006, 01:59:05 pm »
all safe now thanks DM for that

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Development Journals and Discussion / Re: Millie Mooneyes MAPS
« on: October 08, 2006, 10:01:12 am »
Abi is dead she kileld her self over a lost love, I was sad for a long time and could not wright here but now I find thats I can after talking to Zan
Zan has has been showing me what she knows of the Art of moveing in shadows, I now the day as come, I was fighting some hill hounds with Rob and a strange black night, when I got pinned
the huge hounds where getting close and I know I would be dead at any moment it was then when all was lost that I could hear the shadows calling,
Its odd, I know Zan and Abi talked of such a thing even dark child did but to hear them that was odd, then they came to me I could see the hound but
it stopped sniffed It could smell me but not see me at all. I was very scard I could feel its brath on my face buy it could only see the shadows, and then moved
I was no longer there on the cold hill side Iw as in a space of shadows, they moved me and the next time I could see the hound the shadows had pulled away.
Rob and the Black knight looked for me and I came to them, but how could I tell them about the shadows, I could still fell them close there for me to call when I need them
I must find Zan and tell her she will know what i need to larn next.

//OCC 6 mouths ago I asked to have Mille become a SD so she could make better maps, she has been working at this (I have) 1st with Abi (pc) who
killed her self in game, and next Zan with the help of dark chiled, Milles has a new Job working for Bee getting news and selling his scrolls.
Both mean she travils alone a lot, When I had the big chat with the DMs last all thows mouths ago, I did point out that My real life means I am on call
24 7 and so find DM games and booking time for fiexd play inposibel, I have tryed so many time to make DM game just to have work get in the way.
I work in the Film bizz and work UK and US time, from home and in London. Its one of the best things about layo is that its 24/4/365 and I can drop in when I have an hour here and there.
So I have worked as hard as I could in game to get Mille Mooneyes as close as I can to a SD as I can.
I was told back then that if I did that I would be Ok to level lexst 8th to 9th and have her Milti to SD. I feel I have put the time in what as its taken
1/2 year to get her one level up and ingame have her do as much training and trips with SDs as she could.

What Im asking is that she be alowed to have this level if SD at teh rate I play she will bever make 10th befor NWN2 comes so this will be her last level.
I hope you will let me as I hope I add to the RP in the world yours
Nexus7
Spugly Mille, MAx Rosa

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